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Thanks, the thing is that I don't really enjoy my studies all that much any more. I've grown and changed so much as a person over these past 5 years, how was I supposed to know what I wanted to 'do with my life' when I was 18... But that one topic is really one that is a 1:1 match with me, and which I'd love researching.

Luckily, I can probably still do just about everything I work towards later.
Where I live lots of people go study something after 18, it's like you have to make a decision for life, while most people know jack shit about themselves at that age. I've seen plenty people just quitting when almost graduating. I guess there's no real solution to this, and there are so much worrying and worse things in life than simply studying the wrong thing, but still.
 
What's up guys, been busy as hell at work today. Ended up buying some weed today, quit 2 or 3 days ago but that didn't last for to long. The bag has a picture of a key lime pie on it. Doesn't even have a name like the rest of them did. It's stupid potent too, I only took one big rip and I'm toasted. Really glad I didn't finish that bowl in a sitting.

Got some more shrooms also, was thinking about doing the Mush/Mesc combo again tommorow. Taking higher doses of each like 25 grams of San Pedro and 2 grams of Shrooms. Was going to tonight but im just too tired and that trip lasts long as hell, 12 hours for sure. Gonna get a good nites rest cause I have off work tommorow. Planning on dosing on a empty stomach first thing in the morning.

I somehow get zero nausea everytime I take San Pedro. And literally eat all of the powder in gel cap's, just do it slowly over 2 hours. Taking the mushrooms half way through. Should be a pretty wild ride, but Cactus makes you feel so Euphoric it's impossible for the Shrooms to get unsettling. Im honestly never taking each on it's own if I can help it. It's one of my favorite combos by a long shot.

Xork please post a report of your 4c-D trials. After reading some on Reddit I'm thinking about scooping some up before it's not listed and they've run out. People are saying 100mgs is when it starts getting interesting, but I would plug 50mgs personally. Some say that it has a bodyload but I'm sure that would help with that. Sounds like it could be quite the interesting compound.
 
Good to see we've finally got everything imported to Xenforo. :)

Hope everyone has been well. Been a busy couple of weeks for me. Got an old cow that I don't think will make it much longer. She had a calf about 6 weeks ago and she's been constantly having trouble standing since then. She was old when we took her in and I didn't expect her to be able to have another calf but she did. I think the guy unloaded a problem on us. Been working really hard trying to get her healthy this last week including having to hand feed her while beating off the bull with a stick. Thankfully, he's gentle. My Uncle has almost shot her three or four times now because she refuses to get up after being down for an entire day but she somehow manages to get on her feet when he's in route with the gun. Been working really hard because I don't want to see her shot but at the same time I don't want her to suffer. Plus, we needed her to make it so the calf would live. He's starting to eat hay on his own now and can be weened so looks like he'll be okay.

She's really sweet and follows me around when I'm on foot or on the ATV (probably because I'm the one that's been hand feeding her). She's slow though and has trouble keeping up with the rest of the herd. I fear I'm getting too attached because I've started treating her more like a pet than livestock. I've been spending time with her petting her and just giving her some company because the rest of the herd likes to bully her for whatever reason. I'm hoping she'll recover some and stick around for a few more years but I'm not sure she'll pull through because she doesn't seem to be getting any better. I really don't want to have to be the one to shoot her but my Uncle is currently taking radiation treatment for cancer so a lot of his responsibilities have fell to me and that's part of them. :(

In other news I dropped LSD with my best friend again over the weekend and we went to the arcade. Was a lot of fun and the first time both of us have hung out like that since we had a falling out over a year ago. His roommate (my other friend) has fallen in love with a girl I dated a couple of years ago. I warned him that she's a bit stalkerish and that's why I stopped seeing her but she's got him wrapped around her finger already. He's always been the type that would date your exes as soon as he knew y'all had split. He attempts to hide it and claim it isn't on purpose but I've seen him do it so many times over the years that I know that's how he operates. He's doing me a big favor in this case I just hope he doesn't end up having a bad time. ;)
 
I'm becoming fond of valium very quickly. Decided to abstain tonight, and spent the evening watching Return of the Jedi with my wife instead while cleaning our ball python's tank and helping her clean up after she made some dinner.

I know you know, but just be damn careful with valium... unlike opiates you can't just tough through withdrawal if you manage to get yourself to that point, you have to do a long, slow, painful taper. People get so fucked up from benzos if they're not careful.

But speaking of benzos, I finally got my package which contained not only BOD and 4C-D, but etizolam. I got it all mixed up and portioned out this morning (half is for my friend), but I got 500mg of etizolam now. I don't use it often but it's nice to have, since I ran out a while back there have been a variety of times I wished I had it.

I also got some 2-methyl-2-butanol, I was kinda hoping it could replace alcohol for me because it's so much less toxic and less stupefying. I think it could sometimes, but it lasts so damn long, it's not very convenient in that respect. Not sure it's appropriate for band practice/playing shows which is basically when I drink. Maybe for going out to see music or hanging out with friends. I wrote a bunch of notes when I tried it on Friday, I'm gonna compile them and post a TR today. Might as well, there aren't many detailed reports out there.

4C-D? damn Xorky you crazy bastard you are like a rabbithole excavator arent you

What's up buddy? :) Yeah good old ARIADNE/4C-D. I just finished putting it in an amber vial and labeling it. A Bluelighter I know who shall remain anonymous sent me a glowing report about it. The PIHKAL notes make it sound pleasant. I'm looking forward to trying it. It's the most shimmery/sparkly chemical I've ever seen, even moreso than proscaline/3C-E/3C-P. It reminds me of facial glitter. Really pretty. :) I also picked up BOD which I'm equally excited to try. A methyl on the beta position rather than the alpha... so close to amphetamine in structure but different.

I remember years ago when I had to throw away my drug collection... I was so broken up about it. But my collection now is far more significant than the one I threw away. :) I should be able to pick up some MAL soon too, I've been wanting that one for years and every time I ordered it in the past something went wrong and I never got it. After that I should really chill out, I have to buy a car in a few months.

I hate them with a passion though, one day I was tripping on some good mushrooms, and I wanted to like thank some people, say some kind words... But I had to fill in a Captcha first, not a big deal I thought, but man, I swear, some guy was trolling me that day. I was selecting those buses, fire hydrants, stores and crosswalks with a precision that you have never seen before. The problem is, is that their questions are inherently ambiguous, 'select the squares with cars in them', but do you select that little smickle too? I don't know man. I was completing them Captcha's like a real good human would do, but I kept getting cars, and buses, and fire hydrants, and store fronts, and crosswalks, and traffic lights, and buses and cars again, it was insane. I was literally completing Captcha's for what must have been close to an hour, bursting into laughing every time that fucker behind his desk was giving me another set of buses or traffic lights to select. I even went to get my neighbor, to come look at how much I was being trolled by that freaking company, she was with me for another 15 minutes, before we just gave up.
Eventually I just refreshed the page, and only had to complete 5 iterations before passing the test. To this day I swear I was part of some social experiment to see how much more Captcha's this idiot would fill in before giving up.

Haha yeah, sometimes they just keep sending you to new ones. It seems like some sites do it more than others, perhaps there is a level of security you choose? I dunno I haven't inserted the CAPTCHA software into a web site in a long time, since it was just entering the letters it displayed.

Xork please post a report of your 4c-D trials. After reading some on Reddit I'm thinking about scooping some up before it's not listed and they've run out. People are saying 100mgs is when it starts getting interesting, but I would plug 50mgs personally. Some say that it has a bodyload but I'm sure that would help with that. Sounds like it could be quite the interesting compound.

You can bet on it. :) I swear part of why I like collecting obscure drugs is so I can write reports on them. Nothing bugs me worse than when something obscure becomes available and the only reports you can find are a few reddit "reports" that don't really give you any information at all. Or that involve heavy combos so you don't know what effects are from what.
 
My new band traveled 4 and a half hours to play a show on Saturday night. It was so much fun. I find myself going into "show mode" really easily these days, and becoming super social and fearless. I always have to meet a million people and then talk to people about the show after the show, and when I was younger I would have felt really shy about it and had a hard time but these days, not at all, it's so much fun. At one point after we played, this guy who had borrowed a bill to snort something from me earlier came and gave it back, and asked if I wanted a bump of K, which I did. He handed me this device I've never seen, it was a capsule with a hole in the top and you snort drugs from it, and it must have had menthol in it because it was really minty. Anyway the little bump was nice, and then he came back and said if he could borrow my lighter I could have another bump. So I went for it, but this time I accidentally took a big 'ol toot. Within minutes I had the thousand yard stare and could not talk anymore. My bandmates were there so I just followed them around. We left during that time and were heading towards a friend's cabin to spend the night. I was able to follow, and think just fine, but it was literally impossible for me to talk, I was really trying. Our bass player who is actually quite a good keyboardist too, saw an upright piano sitting under a pavilion near the van, right in front of the police station, and he sat down and started playing, and then our possibly new sax player (he has been sitting in on all our shows lately and I think is going to join officially) got his sax out and they started doing an awesome jazz duet. It was so surreal to me. =D

Then we went to Walmart but I stayed in the car. During the ride I kept passing out with my head on on my friend's shoulder. Fortunately when we arrived at the cabin, I had finally returned to the land of the living and could talk about and ended up staying up until it was light out hanging out and talking and drinking whiskey.

Good times. :)
 
Sounds like awesome fun times, X/SM!

I went to a relatively undergound techno festival with my girl this weekend. I broke my drug hiatus taking some 6-APB. Never had it before, liked it a lot. Came up faster that I had read it would, so I took it earlier than I would have liked to. Still danced my ass off most of the night. My girl stayed sober so she got pretty sleepy at around 6 am and went to our tent. I stayed dancing and she woke up at 9.30 and joined me again. We continued dancing for most of the morning. Great weekend. The festival was cool, good music and pretty chill and welcoming vibe.

Now Im feeling pretty tired but fine.


Hey guys :)

Man about dream potentiation... i quit drinking and smoking weed and have been having intense dreams and revelations at night and stuff.. But also am kinda manic pff. It's a little hard to tell cause I am gathering a lot of things for actually starting that company which has the green light, and in june may also actually be looking at getting serious space for a lab and partnering with a multinational focused on sustainability. Dreams are coming true...

I do the occasional trip but actually pretty busy and I think my health has been taken enough for a while with the drinking and smoking and shit, while I was waiting on bureaucracy bullshit and other limitations.

4C-D? damn Xorky you crazy bastard you are like a rabbithole excavator arent you

Hi Solipsis, nice seing you here?
Ive also went drug free for about a month and a half, havent smoked weed for that time and plan on waiting at least another month before smoking it again. I honestly dont feel significantly different, but I still want to keep my usage a lot more infrequent in the future. I just realized during this break that I was using it more than I "need" to, just because im used to it, specially in certain settings.

Thats so cool about the lab you are setting up and the potential partnering with a multinational! Pretty exciting stuff going on in your life, it seems.
 
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I love music festivals more than almost anything else. I'm going to my favorite one the first weekend of May (soon!), it's pretty much the most fun I have all year. Gonna play at a couple this summer too which will be amazing.
 
I took 750ug of AL-LAD yesterday morning. I took so much because I had thought the blotters were significantly degraded due to previous experiences with the same batch... I now believe they were simply unevenly dosed. Within an hour I was tripping harder than I have in years. I could barely make out faces as faces in the movie I was watching. Then my phone started buzzing like crazy; a fucking tornado was blowing through and an ass ton of rain and hail suddenly came pouring down, so much that it was coming out of the seams of the damn drainage gutters by my window. My cat was scared as fuck and probably going crazy because I was whacked out of my mind, and then I realized, oh fuck... my wife might be out there, she was getting off work soon! I started to panic intensely, I couldn't sit still, I kept looking out the window, I called her to see if she was okay. She answered confused like, because her work is a bit of a drive and it was fine where she was at. I explained I was tripping absolute balls and scared out of my gourd and I needed her reassurance she'd stay put for the time till the weather cleared. I ended up having to take a valium to get myself to calm down, but even then the visuals were still intense, in fact the most intense I've ever had. Finally she got home safe and the storm passed, and the cat and I both rushed to the door to snuggle her. We felt much better hehe.

I ended up watching A Clockwork Orange during the peak; I'd seen it many times before but it really hit me hard this time. The commentary on how we view violence and sexuality and how as a society we deal with it yet we're obsessed with it... it was all so insane. Blew my mind. I'm unsure whether that, or Blade Runner is my favorite film of all time now. It's a tough decision...

After a while the valium really mellowed me out and eventually I was content to just mellow about with the wife and cat and watch The Force Awakens and O' Brother Where Art Though. Both very entertaining but the extreme visuals had subsided. My fear over my wife's safety really taught me a lesson in how much I care for her and what it does to me to feel she's in danger. I love her so much and she's such a (dare I say it? I hate the term...) 'blessing' in my life. She really holds me together these days.

Anyways, great trip, most intense I've had in years, and I didn't even need weed. Lesson learned on eating almost milligram doses of lysergimides heheh.
 
Haha good stuff man, sometimes it's good to get your ass kicked.

I love Blade Runner too, never saw it tripping though, although I generally don't like watching movies/series/videos when tripping.
 
CG, I wonder if you're like me with lysergamides, where I seemed to have a massive natural tolerance that slowly went away as I "broke through" with high doses. The first time I felt more than threshold with LSD was with a verified 500ug at once. The first time I took AL-LAD I took 450ug and it was a great trip but not too strong. These days 100ug of ALD-52 or 150ug of AL-LAD are stronger than my 500ug LSD trip where I first broke through. Once I did break through my tolerance began dropping. It's odd, but I've heard of other people being like that, not just me.
 
Haha good stuff man, sometimes it's good to get your ass kicked.

I love Blade Runner too, never saw it tripping though, although I generally don't like watching movies/series/videos when tripping.
Movie watching is my favorite pass-time when tripping. I prefer to trip alone and in a safe space and thus it works perfectly for me. Not that I don't engage in other activities sometimes. Some of my best trips have been on the beach or out in public, or house sitting for my parents where I can wrestle their dog in the yard while no one is watching lol. Also Blade Runner is a fucking gorgeous film visually, psychedelics and Blade Runner were a match made in heaven.



^Shadow, yeah I really don't know. My first acid trip I took a huge dose and it blew my mind. I've been zonked off less since then too. But with AL-LAD, it's been very variable. This time was easily the most intense though. The visuals were just... unreal. It was like I could barely see for an hour or so.
 
Max Al-LAD ive taken was 300 ug and I couldnt see though the visuals during the peak. All I could do was lay down and get OBE with my eyes closed. One of my strongest trips. Cant imagine taking 750!!!

That was a long time ago though, and I seem to be sensitive to the compounds, judging by other people reports.
 
Today is the first day i haven't taken Buprenorphine in 6 months. I officially made the jump and took 16gram dose of Red Sumatra. I'm going to dose between 16-20grams daily for two weeks to make sure the Bupe is out my system and then jump off this as well. On tge 15th day i will take 8mgs Bupe and the 16th day 4mgs. Then nothing, no opioids period for 2 or 3 weeks. I'm going to break the physical addiction completely.

Afterwards only using Kratom occasionally for cravings and Bupe sparingly for the same purpose. I can't be addicted to opiates when i goto Mexico in a few months. Just feel like it's time also, I appreciate the Suboxone for getting me off the Dope but it's time to leave the physical dependence behind. Seem to be doing okay with the transition so far and I'm off to work. Wish me luck, much love.

~Charlie
 
Congrats man! Be careful with using kratom/bupe sparingly... as I always found that impossible. But it'll be great for you to get off the opioid train. :)
 
Work is kicking my ass right now. But I have two days off and just have to make it to midnight. Last took Kratom at 3:30pm and I'm definetly feeling withdrawal starting to set in. But it's minor and once i get home i will just sleep and dose in the morning. My back hurts like a sonofabitch the issues i have with the discs aren't helping thw situation. Didn't realize how much pain the Bupe was masking. I'm tired of being on opioid pain medication, before this it was heroin and tramadol for years.

Took some Tylenol and it did help a little bit. Just have to grit my teeth and get through this. Also have lowered my Gabapentin to 300mgs and will be phasing that out as well. Trying to minimize the medication I'm on, just keep the ones that are absolutely necessary. I know the using the opioids recreationally is dangerous, but I'm gonna have my girl hide them and give them to me occcasionaly. I'll be alright, it's a step in the right direction.
 
Cutting opiates and gabapentin at the same time is gonna be intense. Is it possible to do do just one at a time? t'll be a lot easier for you Of course if you can do it, more power to you. :) I commend your goal, not being dependent on any substances is an amazing feeling.
 
Gotta taper the Bupe more. This is too fast.

Maybe stay at 4mgs for a week then drop to 2mgs. I'm all fucked up now but smiled and cooked my ass off tonight. Kinda bummed out but it's just pretty bad right now. I'm gonna have to go slower. I have until July.
 
Yeah I heard bupe is hard to get off, so do yourself a favor and go slow.
 
Yeah I'm gonna take 4mgs when i get back to my apartment. Just waiting for this train sweating bullets. Gonna eat an edible also which should help. I bet that dose will hold me now though so it wasn't all for nothing. My girlfriend kinda asked me why I'm doing this to myself if we aren't leaving for months.

I'm so stupid for starting at 16mgs, I knew better. Bupe is strong as Fuck, but all will be well in a hour or two. And who knows I might even feel up for a small test of my new batch of shrooms in the afternoon. Only like a gram or so, cook up some Tomato Sauce from scratch. May possibly make a Lasagna or Ziti, my red sauce is on point. Ive cooked for Italian restaurants for awhile. It's my favorite alongside Mexican and Thai food.
 
I recently kicked bupe while tapering pregabalin. Honestly, doing both at once was hellish so I stopped the pregabalin taper and just dropped the bupe entirely . Almost 4 months ago now. :)

Stabilised on 300mg of pregabalin and scared to reduce- I find the withdrawal almost unbearable....

Pregabalin and gabapentin seem able to reduce opiate withdrawal- I suspect the inverse is true- decreasing gabapentin could intensify the opiate withdrawal, plus you have the combined adrenaline response. Clonidine would probably help.
 
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