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Where's AOC???

Did either of you even watch that video? I'm suspecting not, as AOC is on video along with her staff, making the fairly strong appearance that she got elected, but was 'run for office' rather than running herself. This is evidenced further by her lack of knowing anything relevant to the job.


There is no criticism of improving ones self. There is criticism in being a fraud.
 
so unless someone can do everything absolutely 100% perfectly by themselves and never need any help or assistance with anything, they're a fraud in everything they do? interesting take
 
and many criticising aoc for being stupid/unqualified/etc. give trump a pass for the exact same stuff. whataboutism? maybe. but it puts the criticism in context.

alasdair
 
‘Nobel Prize in stupidity’: Holocaust survivor wants AOC out of Congress

By Doree Lewak

June 29, 2019 | 4:06pm

There are few remaining survivors of concentration camps. Ed Mosberg is one of them.


And the 93-year-old from Morris Plains, NJ, has no time for Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s statements last week, when she called the southern border’s migrant detention centers “concentration camps.”


“She should be removed from Congress. She’s spreading anti-Semitism, hatred and stupidity,” Mosberg told The Post. “The people on the border aren’t forced to be there — they go there on their own will. If someone doesn’t know the difference, either they’re playing stupid or they just don’t care.”


On June 18, the Bronx/Queens politician posted a video on Instagram in which she said: “The United States is running concentration camps on our southern border, and that is exactly what they are — they are concentration camps.”


Mosberg, who lost his entire family during the Holocaust and himself survived both the Plaszów and Mauthausen camps, said: “Her statement is evil. It hurts a lot of people. At the concentration camp, we were not free. We were forced there by the Germans who executed and murdered people — there’s no way you can compare.”


On June 21, the Holocaust-education group From the Depths, of which Mosberg is the president, extended an invitation to AOC via Facebook, encouraging her to tour “German Nazi concentration camps” with Mosberg. He said he hoped to take her to the museum and memorial site at Auschwitz, where his mother was murdered.

But when other members of Congress encouraged the freshman representative to take Mosberg up on the offer, AOC publicly declined. She tweeted to Iowa Rep. Steve King: “The last time you went on this trip it was reported that you also met w/ fringe Austrian neo-Nazi groups to talk shop. So I’m going to have to decline your invite. But thank you for revealing to all how transparently the far-right manipulates these moments for political gain.”


Following a 2018 trip with From the Depths, King reportedly met with a group founded by a former Nazi SS officer.


Mosberg said he was very disappointed by AOC’s rejection.


“She should be taught a lesson,” he said. “If you’re not there, you will never know what happened. She doesn’t want to learn — she’s looking for excuses. I would like to nominate her for the Nobel Prize in stupidity.”


AOC’s rep told The Post, “She made a distinction between a death camp and concentration camp. She’s been pretty outspoken about the issue.”


If she accepts his offer, the nonagenarian said he would personally give her a tour of camps.


“I can show her where they killed my mother, my grandparents and cousins so she understands this,” he said. “I will bring her to the place where they give my wife’s mother [benzine] injections to the heart and put her on the fire.”


Mosberg, who was born in Krakow, Poland, witnessed unspeakable horror during his teenage years.

“I saw people being hung, being beaten to death, [attacked] by dogs. I was laying on the ground, [the Nazi guards] were trying to kill me.”


A badly beaten Mosberg had nearly lost the will to live by the time he was liberated by American troops. “I didn’t want to leave,” he recalled. “I didn’t know where to go.” He spent months in an Italian hospital before immigrating to the US with his wife, also a survivor, in 1951. They settled in Harlem, and he eventually became a real estate developer. He still wears a camp prisoner’s uniform during lectures “so people remember,” Mosberg said.


The father of three and grandfather of six has been back to the camps dozens of times and helped lead educational tours, including last year with Republican and Democratic members of Congress at Auschwitz.


From the Depths has taken 20 members of Congress, including New York’s Carolyn Maloney, on its educational tours.


“They were very shaken and upset learning about the torture, torment and murder,” he said. “They think every congressman should go to see it. She [AOC] doesn’t want to go. Unless you go into that dark place you can’t understand it.


“Eventually you will see she will lose all the Jewish vote in New York.”

 
But when other members of Congress encouraged the freshman representative to take Mosberg up on the offer, AOC publicly declined. She tweeted to Iowa Rep. Steve King: “The last time you went on this trip it was reported that you also met w/ fringe Austrian neo-Nazi groups to talk shop. So I’m going to have to decline your invite. But thank you for revealing to all how transparently the far-right manipulates these moments for political gain.”

I like to make fun of this woman, but my God she is a fkng moron. She makes a verbal mistake and doubles down, trying to flip it as an insult to another congressman not part of the discussion, trying to spin it into someone else being in a bad light. This reminds me of a 4 yr old getting caught eating cookies from the cookie jar and turning around to call her cousin 'fat' who was sitting on the couch in another room = avoid responsibility and blame, shift the focus.


AOC’s rep told The Post, “She made a distinction between a death camp and concentration camp. She’s been pretty outspoken about the issue.”


While the term 'death camp' exists, nobody refers to the Nazi camps that way. They are nearly always referred to as 'concentration camps'. More shifting and an attempt at word play or manipulating definitions. F'n own it, woman. OWN IT. I have an image of Bill Clinton saying '"It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
 
I like to make fun of this woman, but my God she is a fkng moron. She makes a verbal mistake and doubles down, trying to flip it as an insult to another congressman not part of the discussion, trying to spin it into someone else being in a bad light. This reminds me of a 4 yr old getting caught eating cookies from the cookie jar and turning around to call her cousin 'fat' who was sitting on the couch in another room = avoid responsibility and blame, shift the focus.
maybe she takes her lead from the president? :)

alasdair
 
maybe she takes her lead from the president? :)

I know you're just joking, but we both know that isn't the way Trump would handle it. He'd take it head on and explain shout about how he built the bigliest death camps, and kills more people than have ever been on earth combined. Tthat even if there's records of Obama building these detention centers, those were just a few cots under a tent and that he, Mr. Orange, should get full credit for these 'Mericuh facilities.

Then, he'd probably take up the offer of a guided tour, just for the publicity opportunity.
 
makes a verbal mistake? check!
doubles down? check!
flips it as an insult? check!
spins it into someone else being in a bad light? check!
avoid responsibility ? check!
blame? check!
shift the focus? check!

i'll agree to disagree :)

alasdair
 
Erm, how is this incorrect usage of a word? Essentially there is nothing inaccurate or, incorrect about her usage of "concentration camp". It appears that the outraged gentleman took umbrage for no rational reason except he felt the use of the word undermined the Nazi atrocities (although, I can understand; it happens to the best of us, I guess) - it doesnt. ... and the NYP decided to run with an opinion piece on it.


From concentration + camp. In later use partly after German Konzentrationslager, itself a calque of the English term.
Noun[edit]
concentration camp
(plural concentration camps)
A camp where troops are assembled, prior to combat or transport. quotations ▼
  1. A camp where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners, prisoners of war, refugees etc., are detained for the purpose of confining them in one place, typically with inadequate or inhumane facilities. [from 19th c.] quotations ▼
  2. (figuratively) A situation wherein crowding and extremely harsh conditions take place. [from 20th c.]...
...Translations[edit]
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amp where large numbers of persons are detained


Use of the word "concentration" came from the idea of confining people in one place because they belong to a group that is considered undesirable in some way. The term itself originated in 1897 when the "reconcentration camps" were set up in Cuba by General Valeriano Weyler. In the past, the U.S. government had used concentration camps against Native Americans and the British had also used them during the Second Boer War.

:
a place where large numbers of people
(such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard —used especially in reference to camps created by the Nazis in World War II for the internment and persecution of Jews and other prisoners.
"Used especially", not exclusively.

I don't think this move is as moronic, as relayed by the NYP report on one elder individual taking offense over the correct usage of a terminology - although there is a cultural debate about the term; apart from being technically accurate, it still brings up much about human rights violations in the country and how terminology was used to shield it - this is not the work of a moron, imo.


Controversy over the use of the term “concentration camp” erupted in the late 1990s when an exhibition about the camps for Japanese Americans was slated to open at the Ellis Island Immigration Museum in New York. The exhibition, created by the Japanese American National Museum in Los Angeles, was entitled “America’s Concentration Camps: Remembering the Japanese-American Experience.” Some American Jewish groups, most prominently the American Jewish Committee, objected to the title. They argued that using the term “concentration camp” to describe places like Heart Mountain diminished the suffering of those (mostly Jews) who lived and died in the Nazi camps in Europe. Eventually, a compromise was negotiated: the exhibition would retain its title but feature an explanatory panel disclaiming any attempt to compare the American camps to those in Europe.
...The best argument for the term is that it’s historically authentic. Lots of people called the camps for Japanese Americans “concentration camps” at the time.
Debating the Term “Concentration Camp” BY ERIC L. MULLER | JANUARY 18, 2013


Also, how the US was involved with the Jewish refugee situation -is publicized. It's not that clear-cut from what I can determine.

Those in power in the State Department insisted on enforcing the nation’s immigration laws as strictly as possible. Breckinridge Long, the State Department officer responsible for issuing visas, was deeply antisemitic. He was determined to limit immigration and used the State Department’s power to create a number of barriers that made it almost impossible for refugees to seek asylum in the United States. For example, the application form for US visas was eight feet long and printed in small type. Long believed that he was “the first line of defense” against those who would “make America vulnerable to enemies for the sake of humanitarianism.” Long and his colleagues at the State Department went so far as to turn away a group of Jewish refugees aboard the St. Louis in May 1939 when the German ocean liner sought to dock in Florida after the refugees were denied entry to Cuba. Following their deportation back to Europe, many of these people perished in the Holocaust.


Hitler’s American Friends: The Third Reich’s Supporters in the United States argues that the threat of Nazism in the United States before World War II was greater than we generally remember today, and that those forces offer valuable lessons decades later — and not just because part of that story is the history of the “America First” idea, born of pre-WWII isolationism and later reborn as a slogan for now-President Donald Trump...Hart, who came to the topic via research on the eugenics movement and the history of Nazi sympathy in Britain, says he realized early on that there was a lot more to the American side of that story than most textbooks acknowledged. Some of the big names might get mentioned briefly — the radio priest Father Charles Coughlin, or the highly public German American Bund organization — but in general, he says, the American narrative of the years leading up to World War II has elided the role of those who supported the wrong side. And yet, American exchange students went to Germany and returned with glowing reviews, while none other than Charles Lindbergh denounced Jewish people for pushing the U.S. toward unnecessary war.
For e.g. Bradley W. Hart's Hitler's American Friends.
Time Article
 
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Ocasio-Cortez’s overflowing war chest only has 10 known donors from her own district

Ocasio-Cortez’s reelection campaign has reported receiving contributions from just 10 individuals living within her district in the first half of 2019, according to its Federal Election Commission (FEC) filings.

The FEC only requires that political campaigns disclose the names and addresses of individuals who contribute over $200 to their campaigns during an election. Campaigns report their big-dollar donors to the FEC in what’s called itemized contributions.

The $1,525.50 Ocasio-Cortez received from her New York constituents represents less than 1% of her campaign’s itemized contributions reported to the FEC in the first half of 2019.
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Ocasio-Cortez’s apparent lackluster fundraising performance from her constituents lends credibility to a poll conducted by a conservative PAC in May. It found that only 20% of households in the representative’s district held a favorable opinion of her.
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The data also reveal that two of Ocasio-Cortez’s colleagues in the so-called “Squad” of freshman Democratic congresswomen — Reps. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan — also rank among the lowest-performing freshman representatives in terms of reported financial support from people who live within their districts.

Tlaib reported receiving $470,430.11 in itemized contributions in the first half of 2019, but less than 2% came from individuals living within her district.

And while Omar reported $717,831.22 in itemized contributions to her reelection campaign so far in 2019, just over 4% came from her constituents.

A fourth squad member, Rep. Ayanna Pressley, far outperformed the others. The Massachusetts Democrat received more than 3o% of her $248,280.78 itemized contributions from her constituents.
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An Economist and YouGov survey in July found that Americans have a very unfavorable view of the “Squad.” Just 33% of Americans have a favorable view of Ocasio-Cortez, followed by Omar with a 25% combined favorability rating, Tlaib with 24%, and Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts with 22%.

Yeah, nothing fishy about AOC's funding when 99% of it is untraceable 8)

Though, if voting is anywhere close to approval ratings by constituents, she may be one-and-done.
 
what's the difference between aoc and djt? you don't have to produce fake tweets to make trump look like a moron...
You might wanna try another metric for comparison. They each have their own threads for the stupid shit they say and do.
well I for one think that these fake aoc quote memes are misogynistic horseshit and I don't really understand why you would propagate such filth...

^^Moved from meme thread because...well, it's not a meme
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vv Brought to this thread, because it's real, not fake

One of several links to this, if requested

This was posted by Dan Crenshaw in regards to a woman who defended herself from 5 robbers

Situations like this story are why we protect the 2nd Amendment.

Side note: With universal background checks, I wouldn’t be able to let my friends borrow my handgun when they travel alone like this. We would make felons out of people just for defending themselves. https://t.co/x60mdd1WW1

— Dan Crenshaw (@DanCrenshawTX) September 4, 2019


And got AOC's intelligence full force

You are a member of Congress. Why are you “lending” guns to people unsupervised who can’t pass a basic background check?

The people you’re giving a gun to have likely abused their spouse or have a violent criminal record, & you may not know it.

Why on earth would you do that? https://t.co/TQFjcLQebO

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) September 4, 2019

Wholly ignores the point of the woman successfully defending herself, but instead charges ahead with assumptions on Crenshaw's friends that are complete fabrications of her own mind. She got the 'member of congress' part correct, then failed by stating they couldn't pass the background check, abuse their spouse, and have criminal records, and of course being his friends he wouldn't know it. She knows them better, I suppose?

Classless, clueless. No fake tweets required.

The woman is an idiot. I'll put money she does not get re-elected without shenanigans.
 
She seems quite nice from what we see of her in the UK media.

Lots of people seem bizarrely obsessed with her though, which is quite impressive. And probably says more about them than her, but clearly implies she has a strong and divisive persona like Trump.
 
I came across several recent memes on AOC, but they require context:

For the Jan 6 capital riot she's been out proclaiming how horrifying it was





@AOC tells supporters tonight on InstagramLive:

"I can tell you that I had a very close encounter where I thought I was going to die,".

"I did not know if I was going to make it to the end of that day alive."

"And it is not an exaggeration to say that many, many members of the House were nearly assassinated," @AOC continues.

"There was a sense there was something wrong from the inside," @AOC says.

She says there were acts of "betrayal" - and says she wasn't sure when seeing officers if they were there to help or hurt.

"I didn't even feel safe around other members of Congress," @AOC says.

She says she feared they would give away her location so she could be hurt or kidnapped.

She says it's "too late" for Trump officials to quit after Wednesday.

"Those five people's blood is on your hand."

"They can't even win with the deck stacked in their favor," @AOC says of the Republican Party.



Though, despite her claims Reuters says otherwise

No 'direct evidence' of plot to kidnap or kill lawmakers in U.S. Capitol attack: Justice Department official
 
Like the thread title says...."Where's AOC?"






Don't know if this is real or part of the mockery



I'll take the rest to the meme thread now that there is context
 
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