☮ Social ☮ PD Social Distancing Talk Thread: Swirly Congregation That's 100% Pandemic-Proof

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Been posting this band a bit, but this track is so hypnotic:

Daamnn, that was amazing !

 

[pharmakos]

also I'm not sure if there would be any point to getting a lawyer or not, or if I should just go to the court date next month on my own. Obviously I won't get out of a DUI, but maybe I could get out of the reckless driving? I dunno...

Probably worth at least calling a lawyer to ask?

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Emily and I are on our way to the Upper Peninsula to check out Tahquamenon Falls. Things have been real calm all week, after she told me she realized her contributions to our fights and wanted to change.

Haven't been to the UP since I was a kid, I'm pretty excited. It's really beautiful up there.

 

[Xorkoth]

Sweet, glad things are going better and that you're getting to go on a vacation. I love the UP, I've been going every year since I was a kid, we used to spend a month at my grandma's lake house every summer and we'd also go for Memorial Day, labor Day and for a week or two in the winter to ski.

I'm in and out of substantial anxiety today. My girlfriend is coming over soon though and I can't wait. I'm so lucky to have her. Last night when I fatefully left my buddy's house too early, I left because his girlfriend came down and was fighting with him extendedly and it was really uncomfortable. It happens a lot, she's extremely insecure. It was the most retarded thing to get mad at him about too, all that happened was that earlier in the day, he remembered a funny story where his friend in high school told some guy he had nice birthing hips, and he told her the story, and she decided it meant he hates her hips, and she kept asking him over and over why he thought of birthing hips, and that he better not say anything like that to her again. 8( She yelled at him when it happened and then calmed down and then picked fights with him for hours that night about it. He was just trying to make her laugh with a funny story.

 

[Xorkoth]

Well, my poor car is dead, the passenger side wheel is almost entirely ripped off and a bunch of stuff is smashed. I haven't been able to stop crying since I went to see it and the insurance company and the tow place both told me it's almost surely a loss. I fucking love that car. It's got like 185k miles on it though so I won't get a lot for it. I feel like someone just died to be perfectly honest, I haven't cried this much since... I don't even know when.

RIP old friend... you were the best.

I fucking hate this.

 

[swilow]

I did a stupid fucking thing last night... was really upset about my ex and that whole situation I've described, got pretty drunk, decided in my infinite wisdom to drive home instead of stay at my friend's. Hit a parked car, got arrested for a DUI. Now I lost my license for 30 days and my car is fucked up. God damn it I can be an idiot sometimes.

And for some reason they charged me with DUI and reckless driving...

I really, really hope my car isn't totalled... after the accident I tried to see if it would move so I could get it off the road. The engine sounded fine but it wouldn't move at all when I tried to move it. I love my car...

Oh no man, fuck. Still, I'm so glad you're able to tell us this. Be careful matey

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

You probably know it, but I got off opiates over 4 years ago with iboga. It was a miracle for me, changed my life. Lasted 3 days of acute effects, I came out of it feeling like I had woken up from a long, painful dream, and I wasn't crazy anymore. I think it worked for me uncommonly well, but I have never had a craving for opiates since, not a single time. I also started playing music again and got in shape, basically I can divide my life into pre-iboga and post-iboga.

Yea I'm aware of your trip although I still haven't managed to get through the full report in one go. I think I've managed to read it all in sections but it has been a couple of years now. I can have some here in two weeks but I'm still unsure when I'll take it. My friend is considering tripping on it too, we've both been toying around with the idea for years. Would you think it would be a good idea if we took it together? I understand we won't be interacting much but I was thinking a shared experience might be worth it. Isn't it usually done in groups in South America?

Do you have any advice for me? I may be taking this within the month. I want to get it out of the way before I start my new career.

 

[swilow]

Iboga is African but I think there are 'clinics' that use it in Mexico...

His TR is one of the most epic drug reads out there. I've done it a few times. I think I was even in it at some stage :D

 

[Xorkoth]

Haha, yeah you were in it.

I feel a lot better today. Had some girlfriend therapy last night.

Yea I'm aware of your trip although I still haven't managed to get through the full report in one go. I think I've managed to read it all in sections but it has been a couple of years now. I can have some here in two weeks but I'm still unsure when I'll take it. My friend is considering tripping on it too, we've both been toying around with the idea for years. Would you think it would be a good idea if we took it together? I understand we won't be interacting much but I was thinking a shared experience might be worth it. Isn't it usually done in groups in South America?

Do you have any advice for me? I may be taking this within the month. I want to get it out of the way before I start my new career.

Taking it with someone would be fine I think, for me I wasn't even really very aware of other people. But you guys will need supervision for a couple of days, don't underestimate it, it's not much at all like any other psychedelics.

 

[cosmic charlie]

If i was to eat shrooms tommorow after tripping last Wednesday i should be able to get pretty decent results I'd assume. It's roughly 4 days in between doses. I'll more than likely be getting an other batch soon anyways. It should be a pretty nice day, I'm gonna consume them at the same time as a potent cannabis edible. The synergy between the two should be pretty interesting.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

Dogz
Im gettin drunk listenin to 69
Got a pizza in margherita man
My lil bros outta jail
Im bout to start this new job orientation on monday. Ill pass the drug test. First check ill get a Q and get loony son
My man got this purple 9 tho right its mad small too like i thought it was a j in380 first time i seen it i wamna buy that shit ill offer him 50 more than he paid for it cause its purple. Its a little joint too which is what i want
Its purple no lie
I never seen a purple gun before but he had it a few times i seen him

 

[Xorkoth]

If i was to eat shrooms tommorow after tripping last Wednesday i should be able to get pretty decent results I'd assume. It's roughly 4 days in between doses. I'll more than likely be getting an other batch soon anyways. It should be a pretty nice day, I'm gonna consume them at the same time as a potent cannabis edible. The synergy between the two should be pretty interesting.

Yeah if you do that from time to time, I've found it works fine.

 

[cosmic charlie]

I'm actually about to take them very soon but i have to walk to the market first. Id prefer to do the grocery shopping now so i can just stay inside listening to music once i start tripping. Just smoked this Gorrila Glue strain, im completely burnt right now. Got this new sherlock bubbler thats so amazing on top of it. Have a nice afternoon everyone.

Time to go shopping

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

i'm mad as shit
i hadnt checked my email this place been trying to get at me right
so iw as supposed to have orientation this mroning but because i havent done the drug test i cant right, well i just found out the night before and my dads asleep or i'd tell him
i gotta go do this bullshit drug test today bullshit man
like i'm bout to just say fuck it and get a goddamn job that doesnt fuckin drug test
i'll pass cause i havetn gotten high since thursday afternoon thats not the issue its finding out this goddamn late cause my galaxy broke so i have a piece of shit phone that wasnt syncing my emails
so i'm now gonna end up getting in a goddamn screaming match about this shit
i'll do that bullshit drug test and if i were to fail i'll say go fuck yourself
like for real i'm not a goddamn idiot
i've been fucked up at EVERY goddamn job i ever had. i WORKED AT A FUCKING HOSPITAL when i was younger and we'd get fucked up at work like for real
and lets say i did get injured if i'm gettin high i'm smart enough to know you dont say shit if you dont wanna get fired and then youre beat for any cash anyway
fuck them damn rats at my last job cause mind you it wasn't getting high or nothing that got me fired
it was the constant raaaaahh hes smoking a cigarette raaaaahhh he had music playing off his phone OUT FUCKING SIDE raaaaaahhh he went to the bathroom 3 times
those fucking idiots weren't smart enough to be able to get me for shit that WOULD legit get me fired and possibly arrested eg. snorting speed in the bathroom. id always have a drink with me when i'd be holdin speed at work anyway so if anyone tried to run down that shit woulda been swallowed so quick. i've gotten decent enough at that. i can swallow a gram of speed in the bag no problem like quick due to having done it a few times out of paranoia. if you eat it in a closed bag tho too you got at least a half hour till you feel any whereas if you dissolve it first you got 15 minutes till youre a wild animal
that was the funniest shit yo theyd have the loss prevention dude kick it in the bathroom in the stall thinking hes slick right
i got wise to that after a day or two and yo i'd legit be blowing speed in the stall next to the one hed eb sitting in
no idea how that didnt get me booked yo cause that shit makes a distinctive noise when you break the crystal up
hilarious
i'm gonna get in a goddamn fight with my dad in the morning i know it now and i'm mad as shit. i'm bout to roll a bunch of cigarettes and go for a walk. its a nice ass night out

 

[Xorkoth]

Man dealing with fallout... I called an alcohol counseling place today because I need to do that before my court date. Also called a lawyer who has great reviews in town. I have an appointment for my initial counseling session today at 1:30, I talked to the guy some and he said that I was charged with DWI, not DUI (which is good), and that I have 2 aggravating factors (blowing over .15, and hitting a parked vehicle), but also two mediating factors (clean driving record until now, and pre-trial alcohol counseling). He said it's likely I'll get charged with DWI, but the lowest level DWI. But I read on the paper the police station gave me that even the lowest level DWI has a minimum of 24 hours in jail, maximum of 30 days, plus up to a year of suspended license (but as little as 30 days), and only $200 in fines. The counselor guy told me I'll probably end up needing a breathalyzer installed in my car for a while. The reviews I was reading for this lawyer, though, were 99% 5-star, most of the comments involved getting the case dismissed for first offense DUI/DWI so I'm hopeful. Gonna have to pay a lot to the lawyer though, but it would be entirely worth it if he could get me off of that. I guess I'll find out.

Gotta call my ex's house today too, hope to get her mom and not her. Either way gonna get that off my plate, it's stressing me out so bad.

My friends and girlfriend are amazing, they're all offering to give me rides whenever I need them and they're super supportive. I don't know what I'd do otherwise. I live in a place where it's very difficult to get anywhere, even the grocery store, and I work from home so I wouldn't be able to get a driving exemption for work.

One thing is for sure... no more drinking for me. Or if I do, down the line, it'll be in situations where I definitely am not going anywhere, like at a music festival. I don't know, I'm really turned off by it and I have no physical need to drink so it's pretty easy to just not do it. That way I won't end up in a bad situation again. Alcohol is bad anyway, it's terrible for my health. In fact I haven't drank or used any tobacco or stimulants since then. Hasn't been long, I know, but I'm pretty committed to not making things worse for myself at this point.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Best of luck Xork. DWIs are tough.

My roommate back in college got one. He wasn't even operating the vehicle, but he was near it and it had a shredded tire he was trying tio replace. Blew over a .25 I think lol... He was very anti-authoritarian in a strange way. He continued to drink and even started drinking & driving again after he got his license back. But he did bike everywhere that first year which seemed healthy. He also got caught with weed in his pocket but they dismissed that since it was a first offense and they charged him a huge fine for the DWI. Eventually he got a PI charge at our football stadium lol, and that got him to finally chill on the drinking a bit.

 

[Xorkoth]

Damn man that's bullshit... didn't know it was illegal to change your tire while drunk. 8( I've heard of people getting busted with a DUI when they were sleeping in their car with it off, too.

Well... went to my initial counseling assessment. I was honest with the guy and he interviewed me candidly and then gave me a written test (so I had to answer to match what I had told him - didn't know there'd be a written test)... I downplayed my frequency of usage of things, but didn't hide anything major. Told him about my past opiate use, and using ibogaine to get off them, etc etc. He was actually really into the ibogaine, he hadn't ever met anyone who used it and was interested to hear about it. I have some stuff on my record and I didn't want to get caught lying. Afterwards he mandated that I take 48 hours of intensive drug counseling... it's gonna cost around $700 and take 8 weeks of 2 nights a week, 3 hours a night. He said that if he had just seen my written test without the interview he would have sent me to inpatient rehab. Which isn't really fair because the test was supposed to cover "if you have ever done these things or felt this way at any time during your whole life even if it hasn't been for a long time", and a lot of the stuff was from college which was half my life ago. For example, "have you used drugs or alcohol to cover up your feelings" - the answers were never once, one time, several times, or repeatedly, over your lifetime. Well... I used to be addicted to opiates to hide from an abusive relationship, so... repeatedly. Well apparently all the "repeatedly" answers were red flags. But like, who HAN'T done that who has gotten into using drugs or alcohol?

But the guy was cool, man you can tell the town I live in because his specialty is doing past life regression therapy. :D We also exchanged photos of our art, we both paint abstract pieces with acrylics. He also told me that since there was accident involved, it's very unlikely, in his experience, that I'll be able to get the DWI reduced, and that I'll end up having my license suspended for a year. Although I'll be able to get exemptions for grocery store, drug counseling, and stuff like that, but with a breathalyzer installed that I will have to pass clean before I can turn the car on. I work from home so at least there's that. I have a consultation with a good lawyer tomorrow so I guess I'll see then but I feel pretty discouraged right now...

Kinda wishing I'd lied on the assessment, but I didn't want to be caught lying or have the guy think I was being evasive or anything, since his testimony will affect me in court.

 

[pharmakos]

i never got a driving offense before, but when i was in college i got three different Disorderly Conduct charges due to alcohol.... spread between 7-10 years ago now. i had to go through classes, spend three weeks in jail, community service, yada yada yada.... it sucked, but a lot of the substance abuse professionals were also really appreciative of my honesty, candidness about the novel substances i've used, and how knowledgeable i was about various things in this.

they definitely do expect you to lie on the assessment tho, lol. worst case scenario, they probably figure someone putting answers down like that is trying to call out and say that they seriously need help.

just make sure not to skip classes or anything, that's when things get bad. i think you're going to do fine, tho, Xorkman. good luck to you.

 

[Xorkoth]

I won't skip any, I'll do all the shit. I just hope that the severity of drug counseling I get doesn't impact the verdict in court. It'll be annoying to spend 48 hours in drug counseling but I can handle that... it's gonna seriously make me feel regrets if I could have lied and gotten out of a DWI, though. The "what ifs" are already plaguing me... what if I had drank less? What if I had kept it to alcohol only? What if I had drank more and passed out instead? What if my friend's girlfriend wasn't constantly making up things to fight with him about in front of me and I hadn't gotten really uncomfortable, and/or he had noticed me trying to leave? Gah I can't think about this shit. The worst part to me is that the last time I was aware of what I was doing, I had firmly decided to stay the night. And then during the blackout, I changed my mind.

 

[pharmakos]

when i did counseling, i was also worried about what i said there making it back to court... my counselor assured me that they basically just send a pretty bare memo saying the person is jumping through the hoops laid out, no details given. especially since your counselor sounds particularly cool, i'm sure he's got your back as far as court is concerned.

re: blacking out... my Disorderly Conduct charges are why i quit drinking to the point of blacking out. easier said than done for some people, but i've gotten to the point where i hated blacking out so much that i was pretty able and willing to keep from doing it. so frustrating waking up the next morning and having to piece together the previous night.

i'm not sure any amount of lying could have gotten you out of a DWI tho man. pretty conclusive physical evidence exists, heh. but the lawyer might be able to get you a lesser charge to plea down to, like perhaps a Disorderly Conduct charge like i've mentioned.

a plea bargain for a lesser charge is probably what you should be shooting for at this point. and since you're an upstanding citizen with a clean record, i think you've got a pretty good chance at that.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

Doesnt ma