☮ Social ☮ PD Social Distancing Talk Thread: Swirly Congregation That's 100% Pandemic-Proof

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

Doesnt matter they wont reduce DUIs.
Hes beat on that.
I have 2 of them. I should have beaten the 2nd due to constitutional violations but i didnt have a paid lawyer and i had 124 days in as is minimum is 90 in this state so it didnt matter thar much to me.
Hes beat hes GETTING the DUI no 2 ways about it unless he either takes a treatment court type bullshit or wins at trial. They dont plead down DUIs.
Honestly id tell you go to trial. You WONT get the max, you might get a weekend in jail if you lose whereas youre GOING no 2 ways about it whether its house arrest or you do a weekend in the county.
I wouldnt ever do that house arrest shit its too expensive
My 2nd DUI was entirely dependant on this witness showing up saying I was driving and i crashed right
Bitch never showed up wanted no part of it
Did my shit get reduced? Nope.
Implied consent got struck down while my case was being adjudicated so my blood evidence gathered under implied consent was now unconstitutionally gathered
My shit didnt get reduced in any way shape or forn and they basically rold me why do you care you already have the time in you get time served anyway
Thats why im telling you go to trial. I would have if i had competent representation. I could have represented myself better i was mad as shit.
Go to trial fuck them

 

[Xorkoth]

I just woke up from a dream where Vortech was still alive and he came over to my house with a friend, and I was running all around trying to make edibles. Now I want to make some edibles... let's see if I have enough stuff in the house for it.

Hey, they don't drug test you for DUIs, do they? Or do they?

re: blacking out... my Disorderly Conduct charges are why i quit drinking to the point of blacking out. easier said than done for some people, but i've gotten to the point where i hated blacking out so much that i was pretty able and willing to keep from doing it. so frustrating waking up the next morning and having to piece together the previous night.

Yeah I have blacked out like twice since I moved here, in the last 10 years. I used to black out all the time in college. Not really sure what happened. I thought I had gotten past that also. At the moment I've quit drinking. I may or may not do it some more in the future, but if I do, it won't be for a good while.

But yeah I guess we'll see, I've got a consultation with one of the best DUI lawyers in town today. Honestly if I end up having to spend a weekend in jail I'm alright with it... the suspended license for a year is what gets me. But I mean it might be both. What I really hope for it a reduction to a lesser charge. I'm not gonna hold my breath though.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

They do. As long as they did a blood draw which they had to have as breathalyzers are inadmissible. Youre beat. Your DUI will most likely be the highest tier. Idk thats how it is in PA. They drug test for sure. Any controlled substance doesnt matter youre beat.
Protip fornwhen you get your 2nd
Refuse to test.

 

[cosmic charlie]

Just got back to the house, been riding on the subway and buses all day. Finally have the chance to smoke a bowl and drink a beer in peace. It's some little things that i enjoy, have a nice day everyone

 

[Xorkoth]

They do. As long as they did a blood draw which they had to have as breathalyzers are inadmissible. Youre beat. Your DUI will most likely be the highest tier. Idk thats how it is in PA. They drug test for sure. Any controlled substance doesnt matter youre beat.
Protip fornwhen you get your 2nd
Refuse to test.

Won't be getting a second. They didn't do a blood draw, they did a breathalyzer, which is certainly admissible according to everything I've read. I meant to ask, will they do regular drug testing for me during my period of license suspension, or will they do a drug test in the future from now? I've been smoking weed, as I enjoy it and do it regularly, but I have a court date in a day less than a month so if they're going to drug test me then I'd like to know. But I've got a lawyer consultation soon so I'll just find out there. Laws vary by state anyway. From what I've read it's likely I'll get the lowest tier or the second lowest tier as they factor it by aggravating and mitigating factors. I have either 2 or 3 aggravating factors (over 0.15, an accident, and, if they uphold the reckless driving charge, a reckless driving charge, though my substance counselor told me they usually throw that one out if you end up pleading guilty to the DWI) and 2 mitigating factors (first offense and enrollment in a substance abuse counseling program before the court date).

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

Well go to trial. A breathalyzer is NOT admissible when thats the only evidence. Normallt they do a confirmation blood test becausw the burden of proof is on the state to prove your BAC was at x level. You can probably get ya shit dropped to a first tier DUI then cause of the blood test.
Youll be put on probation for a few months during which time youll be tested but for the most part youll know when you are tested beforehand so its not hard to beat them
Eg i jusr went in today. I shut down my illicit activities last week because of having to go in.
NC is more than likely less strict onDUIs than PA. But with no confirmation of your BAC you have a decent chance at winning at trial.
A breathalyzer isnt accurate thats why theyre generally not admissible as proof of guilt.

 

[Xorkoth]

Just talked to the lawyer, got the rundown. Since there was accident involved, he said it would be almost impossible to fight the conviction. So if they focus on mitigating the penalties he fully expects me to get the lowest level or second lowest level conviction (the only difference being maximum sentence and fine amount). That would involve a 1-year suspension of my license at the time of conviction, with limited special circumstances allowed (work, treatment and religious reasons only, not even grocery shopping or anything, though I'd be allowed to stop for errands if they're on the way to an allowed destination). Would also require the ignition interlock breathalyzer. He did ask me about whether a breathalyzer was given at the station (it wasn't) or blood testing was done (it wasn't). He said the maximum prison sentence would be 120 days but that he has never seen a first-time offender with a clean driving record get any jail time for the first offense when it's low-level. Instead he said I will get a 1-year unsupervised probation which means no one will check on me in any way, but I would get in worse trouble if I did something else to break probation. Ie, no drug testing or probation officer. I will also probably get 48 hours of community service. He is going to charge a flat fee of $1500 to handle it, and would handle everything for me. Trying to find out whether that's too high, and if I need it. I'm thinking I do need a lawyer, but my alcohol/drug counselor guy I met with said the shittier lawyers will charge $700-800 for the same service, and the good lawyers (like this guy) will charge "somewhat more". $1500 seems like a lot especially considering I have to pay for "treatment" and court fees, and I'll have to pay to lease the breathalyzer thing.

Could be worse... but still really shitty. The loss of driving for a year is the worst part by far.

 

[swilow]

What's the difference between DWI and DUI?

 

[Xorkoth]

Not sure exactly to be honest. DWI technically means "driving while intoxicated" so it can apply to any drug. It seems, from my experience so far, that people are using it interchangeably.

 

[swilow]

Under influence is lesser than intoxicated I guess.

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah I guess so.

Well, today I have to call my ex and threaten her with filing divorce with a lawyer if she doesn't sign the papers I need her to sign. No idea why I can't get ahold of her mom. I thought that would work. I'm not looking forward to it, I hate talking to her. But I'm running out of time.

I'm looking forward to this period of my life being in the past...

 

[Xorkoth]

Right before I was about to call my ex, I checked my email and her mom finally replied to me. I was pretty excited about that... then I read her reply to my heartfelt multi-paragraph message, and all it says is "I will let her know you emailed". I suppose it makes sense that she would want to be on her daughter's side, but I still feel hurt about it. I outlined the situation and that I felt bad about contacting her but that I felt it was my only recourse remaining before hiring a lawyer and serving her with divorce papers. I was hoping she'd talk to her and get her to understand that it's okay to sign the papers. Disappointing. Also it makes me think she has a problem with me or something, that she wouldn't engage me in conversation at all, even to tell me she isn't going to interfere or something. I love her (my ex's mom), so it hurts. So, now I have to call my ex anyway but she has a heads up.

All I want to do is curl up into a ball and sleep. I feel so fucked. I know it'll get better but god damn. This fucking DUI has turned a stressful period of time into something nearly unbearable.

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

Dui vs dwi depends on ya state. We dont have dwi here.
Waiting
I came into a buck 40 today. Waitin on one of my custies fkr the ride to spend this but if ida known hed take this long i woulda just walked like i normally do like goddamn
Im lookin out for you anf you tske forever like the fuck?
Im only blowin 80 and that should last me all day

 

[tokezu]

Hey xorkoth that Really sucks, but im glad you didnt get hurt in the accident at least.

I feel slightly optimistic these last few days. Maybe everything isnt all that hopeless. Who knows maybe ill beat this depression after all.

Oh and what a damn shame about our favorite spaniard...

 

[Img_9999]

Sounds like a headache of a time, Xork
Hope it's over soon

 

[yepyepwoah]

She's blocked my number and blocked me on Messenger.

We were in this cycle of her criticizing me, me defending myself, and her reacting to my defense as if I was attacking her. It was bizarre as hell, she would twist my words in such a way as to be ridiculous if you weren't the one getting the butt end of the abuse. In time I'm sure I'll be glad that she's gone.

But in the meantime, fuck I wish I had some good dissociatives.

My mom does this all the time. Like the pool guy fucked her over and only replaced half the chlorinator for the pool. Charged $200 said the other part didn't need replacing.

I could have done what he did in five minutes. I didn't know how to fuck with the plumbing. That's why we PAID you fucking pool guy asshole.

When I say they ripped her off she says "oh yah I'm just a dumb stupid ignorant woman" gets real defensive and refuses to talk about it. Then next breath ask me if I can fix leaking faucets and shit.

Man I'm so stressed. I only work about 25 hrs a week. I need another job. It's like she wants me to make money and leave, but also fix all the shit that she has neglected for ten years. I really wish I could. I mean some stuff I can, but it's stressful.

Finally got some more o pce. A mere 2 months after trashing a 30 chemical stash. Fuck it. I just wanna skydive then base jump then will gsuit til I crash and die one day. I just need like $20k to get started

 

[yepyepwoah]

Thanks man. Yeah I know it's bad. I've probably been over the limit to some extent a number of times to be honest, but last night I was really drunk. I don't even remember deciding to leave. My friend's girlfriend came down and started fighting with him about some ridiculous shit and I remember being annoyed and feeling awkward being there... next thing I remember is having just crashed and the owner of the car I hit running out of her house and being really upset. Anyway this is a wakeup call, really. I'm thinking at the moment I want to quit drinking, it's the least healthy drug for me that I still use. Makes me an idiot...

My insurance is covering it... I have collision and liability. Of course my car is kind of old so if it's damaged enough they'll declare it a loss and just give me a few thousand to replace it. I fucking love my car so much, I hope so much that it won't be a loss...

They also charged me with reckless driving. They claimed I was going 45 in a 25, though no one saw the accident so I don't know how they would know that. I might have been, I just don't know. My insurance is gonna go way up... also I'm not sure if there would be any point to getting a lawyer or not, or if I should just go to the court date next month on my own. Obviously I won't get out of a DUI, but maybe I could get out of the reckless driving? I dunno...

Avo or avvo.com I forget is a good place for lawyers. Always lawyer up if you can. Never know what a real good lawyer can do. I got a public intoxication with labeled 3 Meo pcp and o pce on me, a few months before getting off parole. He was so good the state didn't want to argue the analog act etc with him and never picked up a POCS charge. I'd def be locked up right now if they had

 

[Xorkoth]

I talked to a lawyer already, best in town. Gotta pay him a $1500 flat fee. He said given the accident and breathalyzer he won't be able to get it dismissed so I should plead guilty and he'll make sure the sentence is as low as possible. And of course help me jump through all the hoops with the court system. I could probably find a cheaper one but you know what, I'm not trying to fuck around so I think I'm gonna go with him.

 

[yepyepwoah]

I talked to a lawyer already, best in town. Gotta pay him a $1500 flat fee. He said given the accident and breathalyzer he won't be able to get it dismissed so I should plead guilty and he'll make sure the sentence is as low as possible. And of course help me jump through all the hoops with the court system. I could probably find a cheaper one but you know what, I'm not trying to fuck around so I think I'm gonna go with him.

1500 is cheap for a DUI lawyer. Ur gonna be on probation with prolly monthly bill monthly drug test. Suxxxx. Can't even get some JHW CUZ SI is gone.

About the only good thing in my life is I'm down to 1_2mg diclaz vs 6-8mg a few months back

 

[atara]

^vouch. I paid $3k for a lawyer for marijuana possession. It's one of those things where you often do get what you pay for, but then, it helps to know someone.