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DMT- Can't break through...

Ive had great success recently with a regular bong. So great in fact that i dropped it and broke it :\

and bongs tend to be smoother and easier to break through with IMO

Seconded!

I kept trying DMT with various vaporizes and home-made machines and kept having the experience it sounds like your BF is...

The time I was finally able to break through was using just a regular bong with the DMT packed over some weed. Make sure not to burn the DMT but instead let it melt into the weed and once you can't see it anymore just rip away like any other time.

Good luck! :)
 
Don't feel bad man. I'm a pretty well experienced psychonaut who been tripping for a good minute on high and low and medium doses of many psychedelic chemicals and I have yet to break through on DMT either. Last time I smoke DMT, I smoke 70mg out of a free-base pipe and slowly vapourized it with a butane torch. I closed my eyes and everything was black except I could see a spinning flower of life that kept changing colors as it spun and rearranged itself. I remember as I closed my eyes I heard my friends talking as they walked away to leave me be and English turned into gibberish but after a few moments I could hear their clothes moving in the next room and I could feel the sheet under me and I was aware of my breathing and had an internal monologue. It was a very positive experience as I reflected on how I am going to do everything I ever want to do whether it be singing, dancing, flow art, wrapping stoners, it made me think of how I want to be healthy and happy and be a great role model for my cousins and my goddaughter. It really made me think of how maybe if my father had tried psychedelics and learned the value of existance for its all a matter of chance, maybe he wouldn't have overdosed on heroin. I'm thinking next time, I will load up 150mg and if that doesn't work, I'll load two pipes with 150mg. Remeber, it's not going to actually kill your physical body. Everything is temporary, so it doesntbmatter at that very moment anyway. Best of luck to you!

On a side note, when I was 16 I didn't sleep or eat for three days and ate an 1/8th of dank mushrooms and I went through full on ego death where I saw myself as my dad dying of a heroin overdose three months before he did so (mind you I was going through a rough time and had tried to commit suicide by overdosing on lorazepam). When I died everything was black but when I said the word "light" I created the big bang from a primordial hydrogen atom going through nuclear fission and multiplying and fusing and making helium and so forth until there were huge clouds of gasses which accumulated into stars which died and made heavy elements and eventually there were galaxies and solar systems and then is was like magnified down to a young planet where I was brought down into a body of water and I saw molecules latching to each other in a manner that created a structure that was independent which evolved into complex life and then I was slapped awake by my stepmother because apparently I was screaming the entire time that was happening.

I am now 21 and I am the happiest I have been since I was 16. Depression and anxiety and bipolar disorder are under my control, not vice versa. Fuck anything except my marijuana and my psychedelics but the organic ones in particular. Unless of course you absolutely need some sort of prescription that is. Sorry for taking about myself so much, it's just that my birthday was January 30th and it's a new year and I feel proud of who I am and the lessons I've learned. All the love in the world to you all, best of luck on your journeys, if you have any advice for me or any opinions please let me know what you think.
 
I also have yet to break through on DMT and I've tripped countless times on many things and had life-changing experiences from a few of them, and I know how to trip. For some reason DMT won't let me break through. I always come up on this wall of extremely rapid syllables that I bounce off of, it sends my mind scattering and it distracts me and I can never get through it. It sounds weird but that's the best way I can describe it. I've tried many times to break through, definitely on good DMT, I've vaped it properly as well as tried smoking it in a bowl between small layers of cannabis, I've been been sitting there with friends taking turns hitting it, everyone broke through but me, etc. One time I blacked out and came to afterwards, no memory of it at all.
 
I?ve been thinking lately just as much as smoking technique (which will definitely make or break the experience) and dose is important for a proper breakthrough, so is mental space or errr, your ability to surrender to it and keep your mind clear at the right moment ?

Surely with a hefty enough dose or something like ayahuasca you?ll break through either way , but I?ve definitely noticed that typical anxious rapid thought process at the wrong moment can halt the breakthrough if not rebound you completely. And who doesn?t get a adrenaline rush right before that lift off ??? So it?s something to keep in mind

This is all just names and categories i use to describe these places, but there is a place I call the ?loading dock? right before the breakthrough, sort of a circus type installment/area or at times an amazing sort of fractal city of color and sound and sensation (a lot of fun stuff to look at to keep you busy and distracted, basically )From many people?s experience reports this is the more commonly visited place, this is where I presume most are when they see all sorts of other entities who are entertaining you (so to speak) kind of like the famous machine elves Mckenna talked about. Whatever the imagery is the common pattern is many ?smaller? like entities, or even rapid syllables as described in the post above

At this point I believe some of the breakthrough is being able to not overcompensate mentally trying to...figure out and rationalize everything you?re experiencing. You can?t accomplish that fullyanyways, but the attempt Will go against the natural course of the chemical . not resisting that pull when it?s time, honestly you gotta just surrender to that overwhelming serpentine like vortex pulling you up out of your sensory consciousness .. as long as you are able to see colors and attractions, or can still make out the difference between color or sound etc you are still in a sensory perception. focus on breathing if anything at all

. Just let go and surrender to the breathe, out of all that?s the most important advice I could go .

Overthinking and anxiety can make or break ANY hallucinogen experience but considering the nature of the rapid onset with Deems , getting caught up in thought or worry at the wrong moment could make the difference between breaking through or not.


After the circus/loading dock it seems to breakthrough to a point of singularity where instead of seeing all sorts of various colors and beings, you go to a zero point and this is normally where that undiscribably sensual and mothering feminine presence is met. I get the sense that the circus type fractals are what you see AS your being broken through, sometimes dose adjustments need to be made to experience the full ride.

this to me is where the true gold of the experience is , but I understand some ppl don?t even get to the loading dock. I will add that not breaking through is not the same problem as the also commonly shared experience by many of ?being kicked out?, normally the latter happens to those who are breaking through too frequently or disrespectfully rather than someone who hasn?t at all yet.

Once at an ayahuasca ceremony in the jungles I was attending, one woman actually had NO effects whatsoever, not even slight visuals. I assume this to be More related to the MAO enzyme issue in her individual body chem more so though but idk.
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I use an oil rig (the bongs ppl use for dabbing BHO concentrates or hash) with a quartz banger/nail , I?ve had way better experience with the quartz than using a traditional bong, pipe etc. Plus with the quartz banger you can take your dose all at once (though gangraping your lungs) instead of having to take multiple hits. But we all know not everyone?s wants to do that . I normally don?t put Water in either but don?t think into makes much of a difference.

Safe travels : see you in hyper space .
 
Are you guys taking the same amount of dosages? It could be that for him your low dose trips don't do anything. In the case of drugs, guys generally need more to get high.
 
Quick question say I had some DMT crystal could I consume a quantity of MAOI and then somehow orally take an amount of DMT crystal and that would then be active? And would this be considered something similar to pharmahuasca?
 
Quick question say I had some DMT crystal could I consume a quantity of MAOI and then somehow orally take an amount of DMT crystal and that would then be active? And would this be considered something similar to pharmahuasca?

Absolutely you could. That said crystal DMT is an expensive commodity best used for smoking IMO. It’s relatively easy to find DMT-containing plants like psychotria viridis, mimosa hostilis etc etc online that can be legally purchased then brewed and consumed as a tea when combined with a synthetic or plant based maoi (syrian rue) to make a wide range of psychedelic brews. Using pure crystalline DMT has advantages in taste and dosability so don’t let me stop you if you’ve decided you want to do it this way, but consider the alternative. There’s tons of brewing recepies online.
 
Absolutely you could. That said crystal DMT is an expensive commodity best used for smoking IMO. It’s relatively easy to find DMT-containing plants like psychotria viridis, mimosa hostilis etc etc online that can be legally purchased then brewed and consumed as a tea when combined with a synthetic or plant based maoi (syrian rue) to make a wide range of psychedelic brews. Using pure crystalline DMT has advantages in taste and dosability so don’t let me stop you if you’ve decided you want to do it this way, but consider the alternative. There’s tons of brewing recepies online.

Thanks for the reply. I was thinking of going down the DMT crystal route simply due to ease and convenience, I couldn't really go down the brewing route because of my living arrangements. What kind of dose would be needed with orally consumed crystal? I have smoked DMT a few times but can't get the technique down.
 
Thanks for the reply. I was thinking of going down the DMT crystal route simply due to ease and convenience, I couldn't really go down the brewing route because of my living arrangements. What kind of dose would be needed with orally consumed crystal? I have smoked DMT a few times but can't get the technique down.

I've never consumed the crystal orally so don't have any personal experience to relate. Perhaps someone else has tried this and can share their own experience. You might consider checking out reports on Erowid or stuff like that. Heres an example from erowid where they did an analysis of Ayahuasca/Pharmahuasca Preparations [https://erowid.org/chemicals/ayahuasca/ayahuasca_info8.shtml] to find the DMT content. Might help provide an estimate for a target range to dose.
 
I've never consumed the crystal orally so don't have any personal experience to relate. Perhaps someone else has tried this and can share their own experience. You might consider checking out reports on Erowid or stuff like that. Heres an example from erowid where they did an analysis of Ayahuasca/Pharmahuasca Preparations [https://erowid.org/chemicals/ayahuasca/ayahuasca_info8.shtml] to find the DMT content. Might help provide an estimate for a target range to dose.

Cheers for all the help man I'll be sure to check the link out.
 
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