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DMT- Can't break through...

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So my boyfriend and I have smoked DMT on various occasions. Every time I've done it, i've felt intense visuals and broken through into a very weird experience. He, however, feels like he has never gotten the full effects of it. Not only does he feel like he hasn't broken through or come close to my really intense experience, but he feels like he hasn't even come really close to my lower dose trips. He says the visuals are minimal and aside from euphoria a very minimal body load. Since I know the DMT is good, knowing the place of its origin. Also he has tried various dosages in various surrounding, he still feels like he is yet to feel it to its full potential.
I've heard of really divine trips and some fairly negative ones, but I have yet to come across a person saying that he hasn't really felt it.
Anybody offer any possible explanations?
 
agreeing with percussion. The problem is more than likely in the way he is smoking it. I have always smoked DMT out of an oil pipe, taking 3 huge tokes and holding it in as deeply as possible for as long as possible between each hit.
 
You could get some moclobemide and take 300mg an hour before eating 150-200mg of the DMT. That would ensure the entire fucking cosmos would break loose around you.
 
^ Please read carefully about MAOi & the contraindications firstly tho - any ideas that you can somehow transcend the warnings ought to be thoroughly banished from your mind.

Just a passing thought :)
 
Go Poly

Besides using Moclobemide or some type of MAOI, which might be a bit of a grueller if you are succesful, and requires quite a bit of planning and preparation, you could try using 4HO or 4AcO-DMT as a base on which to build your breakthrough. I find that smoking, although usually very effective, is too much grief for my lungs these days. With 15mgs of 4sub-DMT onboard already, you don't need to smoke so much to break through. I know that the 4subs will monkey with the flavour of your high a teeny bit, but I usually feel that it ends up being a fairly simillar headspace.
I love DMT, but to smoke enough to breakthrough is more than I am willing to inflict on my respiratory system too often. The above is one way round the problem of breaking you through. 4AcO-DMT is the best, I would say, to soften you up before you vapourise on account of it having a somewhat relaxing aspect to its high. If you want to be properly startled, take your toot when you feel the psilocin starting to seep over you!
 
Here's the advice i give everyone.
Pack 100mg into the machine.
Have the BF smoke as much of that as he can.
Be sure that each hit he takes is big (inhaling ~20-25mg each time)
Hold that for 10 seconds, take a breath and go back for another 20mg hit.

After 3-4 hits he should be dancing with elves in the land of fractals and diamonds.

Smoking DMT is one of those things that takes practice.
Just tell him to keep smoking it till his technique is just right.

love+lite

ps. nice to see u post again ;)
 
Just gunna echo delsyd here.

If he's not using a machine: that's the problem.

I'm going endorse that little thing on my epitaph. If you're smoking DMT and not using the machine, you're wasting your spice. But that's just my opinion.

Just type "dmt machine" into the search or something similar.

Peace. :)
 
Some people also simply require a lot more in order to get the same effects. I have to smoke around 3 times the dose that any of my friends do in order to get the same kind of thing happening, and it has nothing to do with tolerance because I've been like this since blastoff attempt one. The last oral DMT experience I had I ate 380 mg of DMT along with the maoi which didnt get me THAT far out there but but was finally a very beautiful trip.

Now this isn't like bragging or anything...more of an annoyance, just saying there are people that can't get the same effects at the same doses. Perhaps try whwat delsyd said, load in a large pile of the DMT and have him hit that until he can't any longer.
 
I will second what Delsyd said as well... honestly just throw 100 to 200mg into the pipe... (YOU WILL NOT POSSIBLY SMOKE IT ALL) but you will probably smoke JUST the right amount for you.

I find that I KNOW when to stop. Also make sure that when he is smoking that he gets MILKY WHITE hits to fill up the pipe (preferably the machine), if the hits are just misty your not doing it right, MILK that pipe.

Properly smoking DMT is a learned technique.... the first time someone put a bong in my hand I was like "WTF do i do with this" and now Im a pro... practice makes perfect.
 
Ismene said:
You could get some moclobemide and take 300mg an hour before eating 150-200mg of the DMT. That would ensure the entire fucking cosmos would break loose around you.
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a little much dontcha think? that dose is like the deepest state of psychedelia posible (well, iduno a thumbprint might be more... havnt tried that though)

do what delsyd said. pack in way more than is needed and just try to hit it all
 
True, I stand corrected. Always start low and work your way up to see where you start enjoying things.
 
Hey, there, nice to see you on here ;)

Different folks need different doses. Also, I second what others are saying about smoking techniques. Load plenty of DMT into pipe (machine or crack-stem, the latter of which may look dodgy as all hell but it works just as well :)) .... don't expect to smoke it all, but just smoke 'till you find yourself "going under" ... into a trance. A lot of people stop smoking too early because there is an element of anxiety on the comeup or because it is difficult to determine when exactly you have dosed enough DMT to experience the effects that you are looking for.

delsyd said:
and if nothing else works perhaps an IM would do the trick.
There is a good thread here about injecting extracted DMT that you might want to check out.
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Oh I bet it will.
 
just wanna let ya guys know he broke through and i appreciate all the concerns but MAOI's had nothing to do with it.....my belief is that he was just overanalyzing and overexpecting
 
I'm yet to breakthrough also.. but i've been working myself up from small dose's. I've reached a level of intense flowing energy/consciousness.. accompanied with extremely vivid, patterned fields of geometric qualities.. and sense of feeling like 'pure' existence.

My next time will be a much higher dose.. i agree with what alot of people have been mentioning, the technique of smoking DMT is something acquired with practice, my first hit i messed it up entirely.. and i've found people who i've shared with have difficulty getting it down deep into there lungs and holding it there.. they exhale as soon as they start to feel a "change".
 
the two times i did it, i broke through fine. i used a gravity bong and it worked perfectly. i have never heard of anyone else using this method though. why is this?
 
ive heard of people using a grav bong but i feel like the water is unnecessary and could possible soak up some of the dmt.
we use a machine and in my opinion that is the best thing for smoking it


i think i want to try iming it though.....actually id love to iv it but i don't know if the extraction method dmt is the cleanist to put directly into my blood
 
DMT freebase is not soluble in water so i wouldnt be worried about using a gravity bong.

Ive had great success recently with a regular bong. So great in fact that i dropped it and broke it :\

and bongs tend to be smoother and easier to break through with IMO
 
He's just taking it into his mouth, make sure he inhales.

A friend of mine kept failing at weed in this way. I lol'd when he finally figured it out and was gone in two hits.
 
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