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What is the most addictive substance?

I got into an argument with some teenage dumbshits last time I was in a detox. They thought alcohol WD was a comparative joke because they were badass IV heroin users. Between the seizures and hallucinations there's nothing I've experienced worse than alcohol withdrawals and I've experienced them a lot. I've always come off benzos at the same time so I can't speak to what benzodiazepines withdrawals by themselves are like but I hear they're just as bad.
 
Popular culture has narratives and expectations for withdrawals. Opioids always get played up as the worst possible thing you can go through.

I don't want to get into some kind of pissing contest over which is worse, but I will point out that booze and benzo withdrawal can be fatal, kids.

This came up in a far-away thread, that even though I still have not seen actual shadow people on meth, I sure as fuck have coming down off booze, actually shook hands with them.

(Teenage heroin dweebs in detox/rehab are some of the most obnoxious people out there)
 
Hands down opiates , tried it all , but nothing has compared to opiates , absolutely depends on the person tho , I have a lot of anxiety , and messed up shit I like to forget and nothing does that like opiates , mainly dilaudid , oxy , h
 
I'm in my 30's. I've been addicted to something ever since I was 13- nicotine. I was later in my 20's addicted to opiates/opioids hydrocodone/oxy/and when this was hard to source, eventually heroin. This eventually turned to suboxone addiction. I've also been crazy addicted to benzos like alprazolam, and some RC stuff which I have no idea what it was.

I CAN recreationally use opiates and benzos. However, alcohol is a different story. This has been the bane of my existence for the past 12 or 18 months. During this time I have not gone a single day without drinking. Actually that is not true. I have tapered to 1 drink and eventually none for a day or two, but imsomnia and crawling skin overtook me, and I again drank 10 drinks. For me this is worse than H. I am looking for other stuff to use coming off alcohol, or at least help me taper. Benzos scare me as it's so easy to fall back into it.

This is all subjective, but shooting sub and H, and kicking it, but succumbing to alcohol seems to me worse. Alcohol is socially acceptable, but other stuff is not. While I cracked the other stuff, life with or without alcohol seems to me unliveable. So there you have it. I'm not discounting 2 days out from a heavy heroin habit because I'd rather cut a finger off, but alcohol is still the worst.

I realize my postings are low, but I have really grown to rely on this community as I have nobody else I can talk about or relate to about this stuff. My friends don't know this stuff about me and I don't associate with others now who have enjoyed these problems.
 
The most addictive substance in order as I'm aging were, DXM in my younger days when I was always trying to dissociate and never wanted to leave the alternate reality I was on. Then I would have to say opiates and opiates, which are actually heroin, hydrocodone, oxycodone.. Etc. All of my experiences with those have involved extreme please and warmth and the harsh withdrawl symptoms make it pretty hard to quit, too... Which I do regret it. The only real things I could say I am addicted to in modern times are nicotine and marijuana (not physically, more mentally) but I always think about just wanting to be in opiate wonderland... dilaudid had be in the same mindset too.
 
^ I couldn’t agree more!

I would also incluse coffee after Nicotine, but as we are talking about opiates, Heroin, etc, I don’t think it really counts.
 
^ Yes, like Snus, no more spiting or loose tobacco, it’s almost like a mint tea..
 
Based on what I have experienced:

Most moreish: nicotine, methamphetamine
Wost rebound effects: benzodiazepines (after using a few times a week for a while the anxiety was terrible)
Most habit forming: weed, tobacco, amphetamine, opioids
 
Crack, by far. Quit smoking cigs, with Chantix- little problem, but this crack is a different deal.
 
Methamphetamine and other strong stimulants... by some distance. Opioids didn't even come close for me personally, though I've seen how bad they can be for others.
 
^ For sure!

Pumpkin17 said:
Crack, by far. Quit smoking cigs, with Chantix- little problem, but this crack is a different deal.
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I known how Crack can be unstoppable. Even when you have great amounts, this is something that can never satisfy yourself - no matter how many times you do it. The next one is always the best one, and it’s never, ever enough IME.
 
I had a ketamine habit. It was hard to stop.

I had a script for oxycodone. I understand why people fall for opiates.
 
Especially if you your first one is Oxycodone. For some people it’s as close you get to heroin.
 
Opiates are the one thing that's ever really dug it's claws into me, drug wise. Everything else I could walk away, opiates follow me to this day, been off them for 3 years.
 
That warm blanket heroin put on me, but opiates in general is what I've most used and abused.
 
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