LiquidMethod
Ex-Bluelighter
It's astonishing to me that almost everyone in this thread (self-proclaimed educated individuals) are completely certain that Trump is a racist however they cannot definitively prove it. Thank you for answering my request however.It's astonishing to me that we're arguing over wheather Donald Trump is a racist or not.
I explained how those examples were not racist. Still waiting for a reply, explaining exactly how any of those claims were racist. "This is obviously racist" is not a justification, you have to explain why one considers something racist or not.Alisdair put together a nice catalog of Trump's intolerance.
Did this ban all Muslims? No, it was about the vetting of refugees from countries full of terrorists. Also Muslim is not a race.Campaigning on the promise to institute a Muslim ban in the US
He was referring to illegal aliens. If it's the quote I am thinking of he mentioned that Mexicans were sending bad people across the border which is true. He also stated that some are good people. It would be nice of you to post exact quotes of someone when attempting to label them a racist so we can dissect their actual words, as I won't trust someone to decipher a message who has already made up their mind .Accusing Latin American immigrants to the US of being animals and criminals
Known racist? Known by who? The deceptive media? Someone is only a "known racist" if you can prove it. I've yet to see anyone prove that Steven Bannon is racist.Elevating a known racist (Steve Bannon) to a cabinet position
See above - evidence?Elevating a truly world-class racist (Jefferson Beauregard Sessions) to Attorney General
How is that racist? If a US presidential candidate was born overseas then citizens have the right to investigate. It was actually Hillary that was racist against Obama - she circulated a picture of him in African attire (does anyone claim that Hillary is racist?)Feeding and capitalizing on the bullshit 'birther' movement against Barack Obama
How is this racist? The figures he posted may have been inaccurate but the message is true. Most blacks are killed by other blacks. You could state that he posted incorrect statistics but it was not racist.Using his twitter account to promote false, racist memes (a nice catalog of these is available here...OK this one wasn't off the top of my head; I had to google it)
* and of course...giving moral cover to armed white nationalists marauding in Charlottesville, VA
Yes, until you quote something racist.Is it really necessary to keep listing examples?
So everyone here thinks Trump is racist. At least I will address and dissect the points that people bring up. What I'm wondering is how come nobody will address the conflicting evidence? Anyone care to comment on this video? Didn't think so..Ultimately, the question that I find interesting in this arena is, to what extent does Trump believe the racist bullshit he spews?
I used to consider Trump racist during the primaries. Even the best of us get conned by media BS sometimes. Then a friend asked me to prove to him that Trump was racist. I thought it would be easy but I tried and failed. Just like everyone here is trying and failing. I am willing to alter my stance if you can provide evidence of Trump being racist.liquidmethod seems determined to reject evidence that does not agree with his view.
Mexican is not a race so it is nowhere near the 'textbook' definition. What Trump was stating was that there was a potential conflict of interest in the case and that the judge was not acting impartially. Trump planned to build a wall on the border and thought that a judge that had it out for him might further use that to rule unfairly against him (biased and corrupted judges are common). Was the comment unnecessary, unprofessional and distasteful? Definitely. Racist? No.for me, his statements about judge gonzalo curiel are pretty much all you need to know. "he can't do his job because he's mexican" (the fact that he's not mexican aside ) is the textbook definition of racism.
Unlike you all who throw out these heinous accusation willy-nilly, I actually take racism very seriously which is why I want to get to the bottom of these claims. I have no received "plenty" - so far there were 2 examples that I can understand how they were perceived as racist, but on further inspection I explained how they were not.And that is indeed quite strange because it's so obvious. He asked for evidences and even though he's gotten plenty of them he just dismisses them all (as you called it). As if they were nothing important or relevant
We need evidence to be able to prove a claim - I'm sure we would all agree with this statement.