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Allright Shroomy, I could dissect your replies and make my case but I'm not going to. Anyone who actually has a clue about H/Opiate addiction will realize that your comments have bullshitter written all over them. Not to mention your constant editing of your replies. If people who haven't seen your edits could compare what you initially wrote, then edited and re-edited even the gullible type could no longer ignore all the contradictions. You claim you want to shoot up to use less, then claim no no I wanted to kill myself, then back to your initial story, you want people to react and tell you pls don't do it blabla and then you lament that all you get is over and over the same replies despite you claiming to be a hopeless addict, that you gonna do it anyway but need someone to guide you through...apparently you don't know any junkies in real life despite your 5 year drug career so you have to turn to online forums - Erowid gimme a break - to ask how to shoot up and then complain that you only get a useless 5 step guide. But I forgot your super dope connection with the pure Afghan H. And there's your dilaudid buddy too.

Again my offer to guide you through via Skype stands. No need to go back and forth x times here, just make up your mind and send me a PM anytime you'd like my guidance. Other than that this is my last reply to you in this forum.
 
Lobotomykid said:
Allright Shroomy, I could dissect your replies and make my case but I'm not going to. Anyone who actually has a clue about H/Opiate addiction will realize that your comments have bullshitter written all over them. Not to mention your constant editing of your replies. If people who haven't seen your edits could compare what you initially wrote, then edited and re-edited even the gullible type could no longer ignore all the contradictions. You claim you want to shoot up to use less, then claim no no I wanted to kill myself, then back to your initial story, you want people to react and tell you pls don't do it blabla and then you lament that all you get is over and over the same replies despite you claiming to be a hopeless addict, that you gonna do it anyway but need someone to guide you through...apparently you don't know any junkies in real life despite your 5 year drug career so you have to turn to online forums - Erowid gimme a break - to ask how to shoot up and then complain that you only get a useless 5 step guide. But I forgot your super dope connection with the pure Afghan H. And there's your dilaudid buddy too.

Again my offer to guide you through via Skype stands. No need to go back and forth x times here, just make up your mind and send me a PM anytime you'd like my guidance. Other than that this is my last reply to you in this forum.
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yeah a lot of stuff is contradictory and not adding up. Just gave him the benefit of the doubt and tried to respond with a blanket statement that would apply to anyone who uses heroin.

just tell the truth shroomy, you don't have to impress anyone here

honest to gods truth, I don't really give a fuck about your life situation, it just seemed like you needed some second opinions on your usage.

then you turn around and tell us why you have everything under control.

which one is it?
 
I don't communicate with people who proclaim I'm a bullshitter, but I got what I needed out of this thread. Lobotomy Kid's story made it seem like self mutilation, and I wouldn't even consider it after reading that. I am presently weighing out 10 milligrams of heroin #4 to treat my chronic pain before getting back to yoga. I am self medicating back pain because the doctors won't raise my oxy dose, not trying to collapse my entire circulatory system. That's disgusting self harm, way worse than when I cut myself due to BPD symptoms. I don't associate with IV drug users and I never will in my life. They are simply people who are not to be trusted, the fact that you don't trust me just goes to show that you have trust issues yourself with other users. Never in my life will I trust someone who sticks a needle in their veins like that. That is just basic common sense, I'm glad I came here because my friends are all young professionals not heroin dealers and we, you know, don't fuck with our health like that. Sniffing drugs is one thing but that sounds wretched, vile, disgusting... like what would I even tell a girl about the tracks if she noticed? I'd be really self conscious about that and you can even get Hep C without sharing equipment, it wouldn't be fair to hook up with a chick while using that ROA. It really seems like a selfish, nasty thing to do. I got the point, maybe not in the way you intended though. I don't listen to "don't do it, it's never a good idea" - I listen to paranoid people who seem fucked in the head and talk about blood all over the place and blowing through veins like blowing through retirement savings or some shit.

Just because I use H doesn't mean I have to hang around other people who do. I always smoked pot by myself as well. I do not associate with people because they use the same drug as me, and that seems like a good thing here because, I mean he has one of his customers injecting into places he can't reach as he has really mangled his veins that badly. Wow. That completely changed my mind in a heartbeat. It seems like a nasty habit and the people who do it don't seem all too nice either if they can't trust I'm a fellow addict like what the absolute fuck? I've never been questioned or treated like that on here before, anywhere. I've been on this site for years in tapering threads, etc. getting tons of support. I got the one thing I needed out of this thread though, I was asking about IV use because I ordered the needles online and I know nothing about that ROA except that it has a 100% bioavailability and I was thinking of taking advantage of that to try and use less. Now I know to throw them in the garbage, where they belong, after reading the vile, nasty story of wretched self mutilation a couple posts back.

You people seem more miserable than myself! And LK has made 3 posts here... three. LOL. You think I would trust you with my Skype? Yeah, we can Skype and go from there... yeah RIGHT man, you think that's how this place works, instant trust? You're a hypocrite, I'd never give you my Skype I don't even use that shit. Plus, you seem to be making yourself out to be some H dealer or past H dealer which you know, if anything that would be a little egocentric don't you think? It's one thing to be an addict, another to be a fucking scummy drug dealer. I'd never deal this fucking trash, only dirtbags do that. You didn't need to include that part about how you made money off of other people's misery too by selling them heroin, or trading them heroin for them to inject you in places you couldn't reach (wow... that's really something). It sounds like the damage to your veins was well earned. But I don't really talk to people who question the validity of my drug addiction, as that is degrading, insulting, and just plain stupid.

I am just editing this (sorry, I know you need a reason for me to edit a post, or I must be an imposter) because I am actually pissed off when I come here for help/advice in an unstable state of mind and get bashed for no reason. What the fuck did I ever say to you that made you hate me so much? So, I will never be visiting this thread again. And believe me, I'm glad you signed up to bash me because I really got a lot out of it. The thought of a needle sickens and disgusts me now. I wonder how that person felt hitting veins you can't reach in exchange for a fucking hit. Yeah man, you sound like a real nice guy, and you also sound like a fucking straight up criminal. It was nice to get bashed in a completely unreasonable way however, as that also told me a lot about IV heroin use. It obviously fucks with not just your veins, but also your head.
 
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Subotai, I hear you about giving someone the benefit of the doubt, so did I at first although I didn't buy that he was addicted let alone 5 years after reading a first comment (I figured he might have just started to mess with dope or something). His "last" comment here speaks for itself.

You know if someone shows some backbone and comes clean and explains honestly why he does or did what he did, be it because of some issues or whatever motivation then I can respect that in itself regardless if I approve the reasons put forward or not. But to lie to people or "fellow addicts" who showed some genuine concern is just plain disrespectful. Anyway, what I like about online forums is that you can chose to share something or address an issue and while you communicate with certain individuals and reply to them you're also well aware that so and so many people can read it and hopefully get something out of it (the lurker/active commenters ratio is crazy sometimes), even when you feel that responding to someone might be a futile exercise. Like I wrote in my comment above already.
 
okay guys, i just registered to ask a question i cant find an answer to anywhere , and i have no clue in hell how to actually post my own thread, so im gonna do it here. ive been shooting heroin for a few months now , and recently my fingertips have been getting tingly and feels like theyre falling asleep when they get even slightly cold, even sometimes when theyre warm. i ALWAYS filter my shots with cotton and make sure theyre clear and look right . i very rarely hit an artery, and if i register in one, i may push in less than half a unit, really an extremley tiny amount, then it burns like hell, confirming it is indeed an artery im in, then i pull out and go again. my question is, can this numbness be some kind of circulation problem ? or what ? there is no pain at all, and the numbness, at this point, is only in my fingertips. they are not discolored at all, or cold when they are numb/tingly. someone please help, i dont want to lose my hand or something. please spare me the "heroin is bad for you , ect ect" , i know well the dangers of what im doing. thanks in advance anyone who helps .
 
It doesn't matter if you use cotton filters or always take extra care to clean up your spoon or whatever (aside from that's advisable in general of course). The point is the quality of the crap they sell today as H is usually so bad that it will damage your veins irreversibly and quickly, Black Tar f.e. is horrible, veins are collapsing so fast because of the shitty quality and all the byproducts you inject. If you experience numbness in your fingertips and they are more susceptible to coldness than before it's a sign of blood circulation problems. You mentioned artery so I assume you shot around your wrist also (although hitting an artery has nothing to do with circulation problems) but even just shooting into your ellbow crook or upper arm can result in hand circulation problems. Btw shooting locally in your fingers can result in nerve damage too, I had small nerve damage on one fingertip (a neurologist can measure the nerve conduction velocity and get a picture of the damage) but the nerve recovered like the neurologist predicted and the feeling came back after about half a year.
 
I always filter with cotton, balled up nice and tight too ... im on the east coast so generally its all powder in glassine bags i get. Though mostly with washes i get some cloudy liquid sometimes. I really hate to put that in but when my eyes are watering out of control and my blood pressure is in the seventh layer of hell and my whole body is on fire one second and freezing the next its kinda hard to give a fuck about some shit in the wash, i just need the fix. I plan on seeing a doctor soon at my local needle exchange. But i mostly only get the tingling/numbness in my fingers when its cold.
 
I cant help you to much besides, things in your veins might cause circulation problems...

As to nerve damage I've also had where I couldn't feel certain sections of skin on my hand, specifically the back of my hand for over 6 months, close to a year.... for what ever reason related to iv.... I wanna say it was a miss, makes me cringe at thinking a localized spot had problemsome than what about when I don't miss....idk
 
Methadone MMT euphoria after splitting dose?

I've been on 165 mgs of methadone daily as an MMT patient for about 2.5 years. Recently I have tried taking my dose in halves instead of all at once, daily. Each time I've tried this (maybe 3 times now), I have felt more of an opiate euphoria than I ever do when taking the full 165 at once! I know I can't be the only one who's experienced this, but for some reason I'm having trouble finding any threads related to this. Does anyone out there experience more of a high when they take a smaller amount than their daily methadone dose? Please tell me this makes some sort of sense??? Thank you!
 
I'm new here too.
I'm considering trying heroin as pain control.
I've been seeing a pain clinic doc and have the contract, etc.....
Blah blah blah.
I've been short on my pills a couple of times now and will probably lose my pain meds after tomorrow.
By the way. I'm on Tramadol which I insisted on because it was NOT categorized as an opiate at the time.
And of course, if I had enough to actually get me through work and a little bit of living, I wouldn't run short on my pills. (just sayin')

Now what?
If I can't LIVE, then what's the point?
Does heroin help pain as much as I'm hoping it will?
 
Everyone is different, I've had people tell me H does not help for pain. Me personally I beleive it can be helpful. But may help in the short term but in the long term it causes pain in a way imo

Withdrawal sucks but I feel H can definitely help with pain upfront. But you may be able to help your pain short term but you will start to run into problems later. After extended periods of use i wonder how much of that pain that your feeling is actually there (compared to if you were not on anything like that). What happens is when you are using it helps but when you are not on it your pain becomes magnified. Meaning it dulls the pain when doesed but is also magnify's the pain you have when you are not on it. Therefore, in a sence, you make your pain worse or seem worse than it actually is and in turn make you beleive that you need it to feel ok on the pain scale.... then factor in withdrawal (which is a whole other kind of debilitating pain/problems) and you make yourself actually need it rather than just needing something (preferably meds) for a little pain control sometimes. Its a Vicious cycle

Do not get me wrong some people most definitely need pain control and long term pain management and can not get the amount of help they truly need and deserve. It's absolutely horrible that they limit people who actually need it. Sometimes this can drive people to street drugs for relief. Pain sucks

If you were only taking tramadol I would seriously reconsider moving to H for pain relief.... even for higher pain meds I would advise against that move... it's not a good plan. And you said you requested a non opiate pain killer but are willing to jump to H... not a good plan at all especially when you had a good plan before staying away from the real opiates

A few tramadol short and your cut from program sounds ridiculous and messed up. I never looked at tramadol as a serious pain killer at all, and definitely not something you go directly to H after, chasing pain relief. If it was that horrible you should have needed something way stronger from the doctor. New doctor maybe would be a way to go, if it's that bad then hopefully they can see you need it and will help.
 
Heroin prob won't help much with the pain bc it's such a short acting opioid

It will at first,but it's going to prob wear off quick. Maybe try looking for a new pm Dr?
 
sunshineisdway said:
I'm new here too.
I'm considering trying heroin as pain control.
I've been seeing a pain clinic doc and have the contract, etc.....
Blah blah blah.
I've been short on my pills a couple of times now and will probably lose my pain meds after tomorrow.
By the way. I'm on Tramadol which I insisted on because it was NOT categorized as an opiate at the time.
And of course, if I had enough to actually get me through work and a little bit of living, I wouldn't run short on my pills. (just sayin')

Now what?
If I can't LIVE, then what's the point?
Does heroin help pain as much as I'm hoping it will?
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Some of the questions on this forum are really mindboggling! What makes you think that anonymous people on an online forum can give you solid and helpful advice when they don't know your medical history, the reason for your pain, your living circumstances and so on? I know that a lot of people who are not doctors or otherwise qualified to give medical advice love (for various reasons) to give strangers all kinds of advice, suggestions, guidance...even if it's done with the best of intentions it is highly questionable if helpful advice can possibly be given without knowing even the most basic infos resp. the individual asking himself. I know that conducting a proper anamnesis seems to have simply gone out of fashion with many medical doctors these days but a solid anamnesis is really a vital medical diagnostic tool imo, you know description of the pain, duration, intensity and such, personal and family medical history, vegetative anamnesis and very important a survey of ones current and past medication. I'm not asking you to give out these information nor do I expect you to, I'm simply thinking aloud if you will. Why don't you consult your doctor and seek out a solution with him? Actually I wondered if you signed up under different usernames, not that it's my business anyway, well the mods usually should be in a position to see who might use several accounts.

As for your question about switching to H...do you have the financial aspect of this issue already covered resp. figured out? There are also some legal aspects and adverse health effects to consider. But yes H has an analgesic effect but it's not the preferred choice (generally speaking) when it comes to pain management. Methadone would be way more effective but you'd have to turn to your doc for that option.
 
"By the time my tolerance gets back to where it is, I'll be an engineer making 70k and easily affording my habit like the good old times."

You are in for a rude awakening.

You came here asking about injection. Ok easy enough. But then you go on and on about health problems emotional problems...that is a little beyond the scope of the site. There are some med profs sure, but without more detailed accurate info you're just getting advice from people that don't know you from Pedro, based on the info you are giving.see the problem there?

Your story doesn't add up. And if you have started shooting good,you seem to revel in the attention, you will get plenty.
 
I have two long term friends I can talk to about shooting it if I have any questions. I just deleted my post. I'm not looking for attention. I don't know how my story doesn't add up though, and I don't really care.
 
this thread is so prolific for sourcing violations it's almost a joke.
 
Tar heroin: common cut, caffeine, else?

This last batch SWIM got is well strong like it should be (pinned eyes, scratching, hiccuping), but also makes him really amped up. And sort of in a bad way... like get an over-amped feeling similar to if you were over-amped on speed... constant nervous movements, racing heart, general feeling of worry..

It is of note that, with this last shot, he had 4 cottons from previous hits from the same bag, and it was *extremely* pronounced, almost like an instant feeling of speed come-down with an overamp feeling.. feels scary .. so whatever this cut/impurity was , it takes longer to dissolve and ended up in the cottons..

Is there a common cut or impurity that does this? Caffeine seems like the first guess, but it seems like this is something else..
thanks,
-funkmasterJ

p.s. is there a way to purify or clean tar dope? sort of like cleaning meth or what have you..
 
I can almost guarantee you there isn't any caffeine there .
Tar gives you a rush cause it's a difffeeent type of heroin with extra alkaloids in it that cause that sort of rush.
I love the rush it's the only high I have left from shooting, the nod isn't euphoric anymore it's just sleepy to me :/
 
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