Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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You got those reviews off Drugs.com, probably the single most biased website on the internet to obtain information on pharmaceutical risks/benefits. Try writing negative reviews of psychiatric drugs on that site. You will soon see that they will not publish your review if you give it a low rating on that site. Trust me, I have tried.

Hence why highly neurotoxic and torturous drugs like haloperidol have a decent ratings on that website. You will notice that invega sustenna has an average rating of 7 out of 10 on that website for the treatment of schizophrenia. That is because they selectively publish only positive reviews. Look at a more trustworthy non- biased website like askapatient and you will see that Invega sustenna has an average rating of 2.0 out of 5. This is because they publish all the reviews not just the positive ones.
 
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[TD]Complete soul and mind destroyer. My brain feels like an empty shell. Almost everything that was 'me' has been erased - thoughts, memories etc. I'm no longer a human. This drug has taken away everything that made me human. No longer have a soul and my mind is so weak now that it functions at the level of a chimpanzee. Can't understand anything I read or hear any more. The whole world has disappeared. Don't recognize family any more. Am completely disconnected from everything. Friends no longer exist in my awareness. Each moment is lived in intense shock. There's no real memory left to speak of or whatever is left is but a faint whisper and without any soul attached to it. Pure blank. I have lost almost all my God given intelligence. I have even been eternally damned the drug has destroyed that much of my brain/mind. Much of what I have learned in life has been erased. It's like this drug just shredded up my brain tissue to nothing. God has left my awareness. There is no more God or 'me[/TD]
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[TD]Started the injections in March 2015 and ended May 2015 yet it only got worse after they were stopped. Month by month my brain/mind kept deteriorating, becoming more void like; empty of anything human like; emotion, creativity, intelligence. And it keeps getting worse and the fear grows deeper and deeper. WHAT HAS THIS DRUG DONE TO ME? I am no more. End of life, end of soul eternally. I can't believe I have to be like this forever more even beyond the death of my body. What an horrendous curse. Never in my wildest imaginings could I have anticipated such incredible loss of 'me', everything that I am. No memory of yesterday, just stuck in this moment to moment loveless, mindless void. I wonder is there any chance whatsoever of anything being healed or brought back to life! Yet almost 8 months after having stopped the injections my mind keeps slipping away more and more. It's like the poison just keeps seeping deeper and deeper into my brain. I'll be more than a vegetable in no time by the looks of it. Just what exactly do they put into these injections? Anyone have anything to tell me that could give me some hope?[/TD]
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He describes what happened to me very well

remember Risperdal and Invega are the same

http://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.asp?drug=20272&name=RISPERDAL
 
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@RisperdalAnhedonia: i have not taken ritalin but i have taken adderall. i used it recreationally, about 120mg to 140 mg within 48 hour periods, several times. i have also used cocaine (nose not needle, several times), crystal meth (both ingestion and smoking, several times), energy drinks (8 times) and MDMA (ingestion 3 times). as far as uppers go i think that is it, when i am healed i will list the drugs i used and what effect they had. the outcome was enjoyable but not to the same degree as when we will be healed. it doesn't have much of an effect in the long run but more the short run, like a cup of coffee. i unfortunately can't drink coffee right now as it will overload my system, i drink regular black tea on a daily basis though and it does more in both short run and long run then drugs ever have, so does all the water i drink. i also don't take any drugs right now besides using marijuana, to help with the quitting cold turkey transition. none of the drugs help with the anhedonia at all, except one. in some cases it makes it worse for the next wave cycle due to the comedown from the drug and we are fighting off the poison already, this just adds to it.

the only narcotic i ever took that seemed to abate the symptoms the most was mushrooms (hallucinogenic) and they were even different in a way but to a very slight degree for me. they were the only drug that was similar to how i experienced it before and also made the anhedonia non existent for the duration of taking them and for a very, very short while afterwards. others on this thread have taken mushrooms in the past and had different results. please keep in mind it is not a good idea to do a lot of drugs with this poison, especially if they are new drugs. the uppers that you can take will be very similar to some of the effects or patterns the poison is creating in your mind. it is an upper mostly in it's own rights. i have noticed invega has some similar effects to cocaine, MDMA and crystal meth even before i took the poison and drugs in tandem. there is a fourth component that is the engineered and manufactured part to specifically target the root of ones reason to take said medication but it is hard to discern what it was trying to do and i will be able to see more clearly and understand it when i am fully healed. i hope this has helped.

Thank you my friend, your comment is very helpful :) answered many questions in my mind.
 
He describes what happened to me very well
And your doctors never attributed this to your illness? It sounds like textbook schizophernia to me when the negative symptoms take hold after an acute episode. The drug can exacerbate these symptoms though.

You got those reviews off Drugs.com, probably the single most biased website on the internet to obtain information on pharmaceutical risks/benefits. Try writing negative reviews of psychiatric drugs on that site. You will soon see that they will not publish your review if you give it a low rating on that site. Trust me, I have tried.

Hence why highly neurotoxic and torturous drugs like haloperidol have a decent ratings on that website. You will notice that invega sustenna has an average rating of 7 out of 10 on that website for the treatment of schizophrenia. That is because they selectively publish only positive reviews. Look at a more trustworthy non- biased website like askapatient and you will see that Invega sustenna has an average rating of 2.0 out of 5. This is because they publish all the reviews not just the positive ones.
It has a rating of 6.8 which isn't really all that high. Scary Movie has a 6.2 rating on imdb. ;)

I have seen plenty of * and ** reviews for this drug on the site.

torturous drugs like haloperidol
Are you serious? I personally don't mind taking haloperidol and have done so on my own terms to combat nausea on several occasions.
 
A single oral 5mg dosage of haloperidol caused akathisia requiring anticholinergic treatment in over 65% of healthy volunteers.

The dysphoria, akathisia and dopamine blockade from haloperidol often lasts many weeks (even months) after a single dosage due to its rapid accumulation in brain tissue and its very long elimination half life from brain tissue. Even psychiatrists concede that its a neurotoxic drug proven to cause permanent brain damage. Hope you can find something safer for your nausea.

http://www.mdedge.com/currentpsychi...other-psychotic-disorders/haloperidol-clearly

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/pdf/10.1176/ajp.156.6.885
 
I'd rather take Haloperidol than MCP which gives me horrible headaches. I would usually use pot, but a microdose haldol best helps me combat nausea caused by high dopaminergic activity due to drug cocktails. I don't take more than 1mg and I do not get akatisia at that dosage, which I am prone to. The stuff is really useful, just don't use the literature values when deciding upon the size of your dose. Generally, when you are prescribed neuroleptics as an outpatient, it may be wise to cut your dosage in half or even less. The recommended dosages usually aim at full symptom relief, when a gradual resolution with a low dosage over a longer period of time often allows for much better integration of the psychosis. Side effects do increase in a dose-dependent manner.
 
And your doctors never attributed this to your illness? It sounds like textbook schizophernia to me when the negative symptoms take hold after an acute episode. The drug can exacerbate these symptoms though.

my illness? lol what a joke

you can give this poison to a healthy Olympic gold medal winner and they will become Anhedonic

take your pseudo-science away crook :X
 
Lol you can insult me all you want, but you won't see me getting down to that level. You have been diagnosed with an illness and cannot quite accept that if I understood you correctly. But yeah, those doctors are all pseudo-scientists with bad education and not a clue what they're doing. Slaves to the pharmaceutical industry right?

Try to start accepting other points of views and you may actually gain something from them, especially from differentiated ones like mine which are based on years of experience and education. ;)

you can give this poison to a healthy Olympic gold medal winner and they will become Anhedonic
Exactly. Because the substances should NOT EVER be prescribed to healthy people. How is that not perfectly obvious?

EDIT: In case you didn't catch that, I have myself taken 6 different neuroleptics and still take them as needed, roughly half my friends are doctors, my best friend is schizophrenic, as well as one very long-standing former friend whose illness got the best of him due to his incompliance with the pharmacotherapy, I am bipolar, I know the guidelines for treating psychotic states and spend a lot of time in psychiatric wards as well as reading up on current psychiatric research, mostly limited to reviews though. This doesn't really give my opinion any more value than yours, but mentioning it is probably adequate at this point.
 
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Even 1mg haldol blocks most dopamine receptors. Its poison and many psychiatrists would agree with that statement. A group of prominent psychiatrists have even called for it to be banned due to the brain damage it causes. The FDA refused to approve haldol for many years due to its known neurotoxicity even back then. Haldol takes a fit healthy person and paralyses them.

Its probably the single most dangerous pharmaceutical still on the market. You are clearly ill informed. Stop advocating what you don't understand.

Don't forget that low dose haloperidol was also the drug of choice for torturing Soviet Dissendants.
 
@Crook I get the feeling your huge Ego has compromised your ability to think logically.
Well than you should be able to tell me where I am wrong with good arguments instead of insulting me. I do admit that I do at times lose my ability to think logically because I have bipolar disorder type I. Thanks for pointing that out.
Much to the dismal of former psychiatrists who'd often rather feed me neuroleptics, I have ways to do reality checks and constantly question myself due to recurring delusional (manic) episodes. While I am currently in the upper spectrum of affective states I am quite sure I am neither acutely psychotic nor severely hypomanic and maintain my ability to think logically. Please point out where exactly that ability seems to be compromised to you.


Dosis facit venenum. Dosis facit venenum. Dosis facit venenum. Almost all recreational drugs can be considered poison. A lot more people have died off opiates or committing suicide during a psychotic episode than off neuroleptic drugs given as a therapeutical measure. I have a feeling you guys do not appreciate how serious these illnesses are. If you were wrongfully diagnosed with bipolar disorder or schizophrenia that is a shame and you should not have been treated with neuroleptics.

How is psychiatry a pseudo-science though? Please explain. Are you saying mental illness does not exist? If that is your opinion, fine. I have a different take on the subject. I am starting to get the feeling nobody talking shit about neuroleptics here has ever seen a severely schizophrenic person - That is not meant to be an insult, but I am actually wondering if you have. Have you? How did the person find relief?

Does my experience with mental illness, psychiatry and neuroleptics count for nothing in your eyes? Is your point of view the only one that you can tolerate to exist?

This is another point of view which is perfectly valid in it's own frame of reference. (What a Shaman Sees in A Mental Hospital) It does not make modern psychiatry's take on the issue wrong though. Different explanations and ways to handle a phenomenom like mental illness can actually co-exist.

Its probably the single most dangerous pharmaceutical still on the market. You are clearly ill informed. Stop advocating what you don't understand.
Please define dangerous. It is not really an expression used to describe pharmaceuticals without further explanation. It's a pity you feel unable to get your point across without insulting me.

Haldol takes a fit healthy person and paralyses them.
Why in god's name would you give neuroleptics to a healthy person? It's used to treat illness.

Don't forget that low dose haloperidol was also the drug of choice for torturing Soviet Dissendants.
What is your point? Healthy people should not be given antipsychotics. Low-dose PCP has been used the same way, yet a lot of people on this forum cherish it. Opiates are often used for suicide, yet they are also important for pain management.

You are arguing against a substance usefulness on the basis of it's non-therapeutical application. It makes no sense whatsoever to look at them as anything but therapeutical drugs. I could torture you with a dildo (and probably would if you were with me now), but are dildos useless or evil for that reason?
Being strapped to a bed and injected it with drugs that cause akatisia is one of the worst forms of agony a person can experience. I would never disagree with that. I have suffered akatisia many times due to antipsychotic doses that were unreasonably high (while it can indeed occur dose-independently) and have seen two of my best friends as well as countless patientss uffer that fate. As I have stated several times, there is a lot wrong with classical psychiatry and antipsychotics are generally prescribed too often and at doses much too high.

I'm pretty sure the sudden surge of attacks against my person are based on fears of having to admit that not everything you assumed about psychiatry is necessarily correct and I can understand that since you feel wronged by it. I've stepped into the same trap many times. It will not get you anywhere whatsoever though in terms of gaining an differentiated understanding of the complex topic that is mental illness and the options for treating it with both their advantages and disadvantages.

You should really step back for a second and ask yourself why you feel the need to attack me. Admittedly, I presented my point quite aggressively, but that can not be the only reason for you to straight up insult me, right?
 
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I've been off invega since the 1st of this month. Hopefully I start to feel better. My orgasms are slightly better. I want full recovery of my orgasms soon. I also want to get back my spiritual nature.
 
@crOOk: stop! you've been here before and have done this before. not right now man. please be mindful of what others are going through. i remember you from last time. that's enough for now. there are other threads this conversation would be more appropriate for.
Aye you are probably right. Apologies.
 
I am glad I found the thread and the vast experience of people here.
I thank God almost every day for the internet. best invention since ice cream .
 
I've been off Invega for almost 2 months. I know most of you are still struggling but I already feel mostly recovered. My doctor has a phd and she says the medicine will only be in my system for no more than a month and a half. It's been 2. I was on the 117mg shot for 2 years. After reading a lot of these threads it was hard to believe. And the internet says otherwise. I don't know who I believe. The problem is if I was fully recovered I would be able to smoke weed again. Weed makes me sick, it's a dirty unpleasurable high. The thing is invega blocks 80% of your dopamine receptors. Which is responsible for pleasure of any kind(ex. Tv video games) sex, motivation, energy levels, which is what we all have or did have to face being on this medication. Weed releases dopamine. So my theory is, if my doctor is correct, even if the medication was out of my system, the medication has done damage to my dopamine receptors and it will take time for them to heal. I'm guessing It will still take a year before my dopamine receptors will be healed before I can smoke again. I'm not saying my doctor is correct, but if she is, it's not the medication still in our system that is hindering us, but the damage this medication has done to our brains. If anyone has any info how long it took for them to smoke weed again it'd be much appreciated. My heart goes out to all of you who have had to take this horrible drug. Note. I have no bad side effects to adderall which increases dopamine. Weed also increases dopamine so I'm puzzled by why such negative symptoms occur.
 
I am glad I found the thread and the vast experience of people here.
I thank God almost every day for the internet. best invention since ice cream .
We'll do whatever we can to help you through your recovery. Welcome to the forum.

Almost exactly 22 months off the Invega shots and I am nearly fully healed. Recovery is very much possible but as a few of us are starting to learn, your recovery is almost like a spiritual journey... or an inward journey through trials and nightmares. Take care while traversing through this experience.
I've been off Invega for almost 2 months. I know most of you are still struggling but I already feel mostly recovered. My doctor has a phd and she says the medicine will only be in my system for no more than a month and a half. It's been 2. I was on the 117mg shot for 2 years.
Odd... My pscyhiatrist said it takes 6 months.

Feeling better is definitely not a bad sign. I wouldn't get too far ahead of yourself, however. Recovery may take some time.
 
First of all Crook, inositol might be easy to re-rock, but it's far from the best cut out there for cocaine. Anyway I get this feeling about what you did and why your friend ended up in treatment. BTW most parents wants the family dog on Aps because it makes him act like a dog.
 
I don't want a confrontation with anyone since that's just exhausting and doesn't really benefit anyone, but still think you are not doing these drugs justice. I was hoping some people here would look at people's perspectives who have a different opinion on the subject, but I guess that proved futile.
 
Neoroleptics are inherently toxic drugs, proven to shrink the brain and harm the human body. They make you anhedonic, steal your creativity and imagination, make you impotent, give you movement and metabolic disorders. They are toxic to ALL humans, including people with mental illness. If you think they are so great keep taking them as a maintainence treatment for your "Bipolar 1 Disorder". I can guarantee you will regret it one day and wish you listened to us.

Stop spewing your unsubstantiated opions on this thread and find a pro psychiatry and pro pharma site like CrazyBoards. You will have better luck there. I think most of us would agree that your perspective is not appreciated here.
 
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