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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy 2C-B-Fly Thread

Does anyone here like 2C-B-FLY enough to convince me I should get some and try it, or is it one that I can miss out on in favor of better chems? Seems pretty costly and many things I've read have suggested that it's uncomfortable.
 
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I think other 2C-X chems are probably more worthwhile.

I had a very scary trip mixing this with 1p eth lad, felt like my teeth were falling out and my gums wouldn't stop tingling. Felt like there was popping candy in my mouth...
 
240sxLover said:
Does anyone here like 2C-B-FLY enough to convince me I should get some and try it, or is it one that I can miss out on in favor of better chems? Seems pretty costly and many things I've read have suggested that it's uncomfortable.
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I loved my experience with it, really loved it (I tried it from the 2006 (?) batch that went around, the first time it was available). I found it extraordinarily comfortable. It's not really a strong psychedelic at all (for me), no visuals even (at least at 18mg) but a strong empathy and beautiful glow, euphoric, feels great, very social and heart-opening and much gentler than any empathogenic substance I can think of. That said, as it's being sold now I find it too expensive to justify getting any, so I haven't.
 
Yeah too expensive for me as well, real shame I'd save up for at least trying a few doses but only if I find a little powder - not those expensive pills and definitely not overpriced pills that don't even mention the dose..

But it sounds pretty 2C-B-FLY to this white guy.

@ Color:
By far most organic compounds like these are white in pure form. Only nitrate salts that are usually made conveniently of 25N, 2C-N, DON etc are bright yellow (see the Beginner's FAQ of PD, at the top is a pic of my 2C-N). One could argue it's inorganic chem involved there.
Some are commonly found as off-white, tan or yellow-ish but this is likely to come from impurities of peculiar complexes or biochemicals with a certain electronic resonance that allows it to absorb light and emit it again in certain wavelengths.
Oxidized indoles can apparently turn into compounds that I bet bear vague resemblance to indigo. Crapping into black stuff may be polymers.

To say what other psychedelics are colored in actual pure form would be a great quiz question imo... (no, I can't think of an answer off the top of my head)
 
But it is avaliable in powder form, in small quantities, Solipsis ! I still found it too expensive though. For everything I've read about it, sound fairly similar to 5-MeO-MiPT, or a low dose of your 2C-X of choice.
 
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2) Does it smell or have an odor?
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The smell always makes me think of burnt out electrical components. Kind of a combination of ozone, a hint of burned plastic and trace amounts of the kinds of metals that are probably horrible for you when heated to the point of vaporisation and deposited in your lungs
 
Solipsis said:
Yeah too expensive for me as well, real shame I'd save up for at least trying a few doses but only if I find a little powder - not those expensive pills and definitely not overpriced pills that don't even mention the dose..

But it sounds pretty 2C-B-FLY to this white guy.

@ Color:
By far most organic compounds like these are white in pure form. Only nitrate salts that are usually made conveniently of 25N, 2C-N, DON etc are bright yellow (see the Beginner's FAQ of PD, at the top is a pic of my 2C-N). One could argue it's inorganic chem involved there.
Some are commonly found as off-white, tan or yellow-ish but this is likely to come from impurities of peculiar complexes or biochemicals with a certain electronic resonance that allows it to absorb light and emit it again in certain wavelengths.
Oxidized indoles can apparently turn into compounds that I bet bear vague resemblance to indigo. Crapping into black stuff may be polymers.

To say what other psychedelics are colored in actual pure form would be a great quiz question imo... (no, I can't think of an answer off the top of my head)
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Do you count 5/6-apb as psychedelics? The succinate salts aren't white afaik.
 
240sxLover said:
Does anyone here like 2C-B-FLY enough to convince me I should get some and try it, or is it one that I can miss out on in favor of better chems? Seems pretty costly and many things I've read have suggested that it's uncomfortable.
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Substance was very mild for me and my wife. Stimulation and socialisation is good. No visuals, no euphoria. For me it also was 2 times very agresive comedown also I readed in this tread it was hapened to another peoples too, but mostly for everyone there are no comedown at all. Generaly nothing bad about 2-cb-fly, but not something extraordinary.

I find bk-2-cb more intresting for me. Among euphoria ,stimulation and very mild visuals it also have tingling sensation like from cathinone stimulants wich I liked too. bk-2-cb need to be taked only in capsule on an empty stomach with orange juice or other acid drinks (coffee for example) because water make it inactive. bk-2-cb is something like low dose of Mescaline and part of euphoric stimulants.
 
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white55 said:
Do you count 5/6-apb as psychedelics? The succinate salts aren't white afaik.
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Got some 5 apb right next to me its from 2012 and still is white as snow. But nah i dont think the benzofurans are considered prsychedelics in the classical sense.
 
5-apb was available as the hcl salt very early, are you sure it's the succinate and not the hcl salt?
 
What makes you think the succinate is colored in its truly pure form (what color do you say it is? tan to brown it seems?), because I don't really see why 5-APB succinate would be colored. If the compound itself is colored you expect a relatively intense coloration of sorts because in most other cases it is a trace amount of a discolored impurity that dilutes the colorless product...
Usually tan powders have impurities. I'd wager it is just more likely for those batches to be impure just like MDMA or MDA can often be brown or tan, but aren't when thoroughly purified.

For one thing: brown colors are normally muddy mixed colors as you will not find it on the color scheme or rainbow. I actually don't know if any one organic chemical known is brown, or that it means there is a mix of colored impurities that together make brown.

Succinate anions are known to be colorless, and I don't see a very conjugated system in 5-APB or 6-APB..

Possibly succinic acid forms some polymers under certain conditions which add to discoloration but then again as is said: brown and tan colors are ubiquitous with MDA-like compounds that are not fully worked up.
 
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That the best 5 and 6 apb were both still tan (and both slightly differently coloured), very pure according to lab tests, that very pure 5-apb hcl was white, as were all other very pure benzofurans in hcl salt form (shitty ones were brownish (but a different brown than 5/6 apb succinate... more like the impure hcl salts of a lot of drugs)). Are there any other common drugs sold as the succinate salt and look white (I can only think of Hcl salts (most common), Hbr salts, tartarate salts, frebases (most benzos)?

Btw, google polymorphysm colour chemistry... looks like that two salts of drugs of the same purity can be different in color.

Also do you remember the old mdai that looked like chocolate and was around 6 or 7 years ago? I wonder what was in it and how pure it was since subjective effects were the same as the good white powder/small crystal versions?
 
white55 said:
Also do you remember the old mdai that looked like chocolate and was around 6 or 7 years ago? I wonder what was in it and how pure it was since subjective effects were the same as the good white powder/small crystal versions?
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I had (have?) that, pretty sure it contains a shitload of saffrole - but no idea as to what made it cocoa colored. Maybe we know if someone tells us what makes some MDMA / MDA brown.

Can't really comment more on the colors since I can't / don't want to argue against possibilities like that. Best I can come up with is that maybe divalent acid residues like succinate play an unusual role in crystal morphology compared to say HCl salts.

But at some point it becomes terribly hard to say whether very small impurities (like a possible polymer) is responsible for discoloration. I guess you would have to test properties of the dissolved succinate or to check color during manufacture since it should stay an even color throughout purification steps.

Anyway apologies for derailing - 2C-B-FLY is a way too wonderful substance to not talk about, it seems.
 
240sxLover said:
Does anyone here like 2C-B-FLY enough to convince me I should get some and try it, or is it one that I can miss out on in favor of better chems? Seems pretty costly and many things I've read have suggested that it's uncomfortable.
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Most have found it very comfortable from my reading of it - certainly not mentally compared with some others though these sorts of questions are impossible to answer for someone else; reading reports it sounded great but after 4 goes and taking it to above normal doses I flushed 150mg of it - wasn’t for me even though others love it - you can’t predict it; people are different and react so; you can only see if it sounds curious enough to shell out the dosh for. I can’t say what better chems might be; it’s all like trying some exotic food stuff you have never tried before. Guess there are few who haven’t binned a few things or liked something more than expected.
 
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^True, thanks for your input. I still think I'll pass on this because of the price point. Hopefully when I have money again it'll be around, if not... c'est la vie.
 
So I tried 10mg and it was wonderful !

Just a question, is the chemical stable in the same way like the 2C-x series ?

Does the benzofuran changes something for storage?

Got my 2C-B in "pellets".

Thank you
 
most things are more stable than has been made out at times even at room temp but esp the PEAs - I think it’s likely we don’t know for sure - probably there exist older samples somewhere but I’d expect this to last fine esp. in pellets - I’d always kept pellets in a warm dry environment initially to make sure there is no moisture; then the usual airtight and dark dark (pellets effectively block light to all but the surface and probably air too)
 
Anyone experienced with rectal dosing 2C-B-FLY? Difference in rectal vs oral?
Planning on doing this ROA soon, because I was disappointed with oral dosing 9mg first time.

I was also wondering if I may have built a tolerance during my allergy tests the same day I took the 9mg?
These tests were barely treshold, I don't know if it's possible to build tolerance from such small doses?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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