Lysergamides The Big & Dandy ETH-LAD Thread

[sean107]

Yeah I never really had body-load or nausea on ETH-LAD either. Not even at 500ug.

 

[Xorkoth]

I've never had nausea or bodyload from any lysergamide (out of LSD, ALD-52, ETH-LAD, AL-LAD and 1p-LSD). I have had some intense gas in the stomach that caused temporary pain once on AL-LAD at 450ug. For me lysergamides always feel extremely transparent on the body, but with a warm, euphoric and comfortable glow and energy.

 

[Hodor]

so when will 1-acetyl-eth-lad start getting produced?

Apparently, lysergamides are a royal PITA to make - ETH-LAD and AL-LAD already have pretty low yields and low stability in solution, and trying to acetylate them would reduce the yield even further. Heck, "they" still haven't brought PRO-LAD to the market.

That's why that batch of 1p-ETH-LAD has so far been a one-off (and their main reason for making it in the first place was probably that they were trying to test the theory that 1p-analogs primarily act as prodrugs).

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah, it's the same reason it took so many years for someone to finally bring these to market, and why LSD (and the rest) costs so much. We're just fortunate we have a group(s) of people today who are passionate enough about furthering understanding and availability of really special compounds. Not to say they aren't making money because I'm sure they are, but there's a reason it hadn't been done until recently. Someone had to really care about what they were doing. Same reason China isn't pumping these out like they are everything else.

 

[Sir Ron Pib]

I think the actual reason for 1p-eth was for the uk market where etc-lad was illegal. 1p and 1a-LSD where really already demonstrating prodrug effect and some acedemic study was taken out on 1p-lsd to look into that likelihood; there was supposed to be another study to gather more evidence for it; if your looking to prove it changing drug halfway through isn't ideal and 1p-AL-LAD would be cheaper option. I think unless anything changed eth-lad was shockingly low yield compared with AL-LAD hense no PRO-LAD

 

[Mr.Grateful]

Yeah I never really had body-load or nausea on ETH-LAD either. Not even at 500ug.

You took 500ug? Oh my God. I took 100ug and i was feeling it strong. Head was clear but it was still intense. Please describe your 500ug experience. The visuals must have been extreme..

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah I took 300ug of ETH-LAD for my only trial with it and the visuals were SO intense, the most morphing and emerging textures I have ever seen on any psychedelic at any dose. Nearly DMT-like in intensity of visuals during the peak, I mean DMT is in a class of its own but it was comparable (though LSD-like in character).

 

[Mr.Grateful]

Yeah I took 300ug of ETH-LAD for my only trial with it and the visuals were SO intense, the most morphing and emerging textures I have ever seen on any psychedelic at any dose. Nearly DMT-like in intensity of visuals during the peak, I mean DMT is in a class of its own but it was comparable (though LSD-like in character).

I can't even imagine taking 200ug lol..
Did you enjoy the experience? Was the headspace still clear and did you take something else with it like cannabis?

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah actually I found it very serene. I spent the trip climbing boulders and waterfalls actually (on a route I'd done probably 40 times before, it's like my outdoor home). I found it more clearheaded than LSD, and after the come-up it felt very calm and centered, sort of mescaline-like in the headspace, but a little more out there. I enjoyed it very much. I didn't end up smoking cannabis because I figured I was high enough already for the situation. During the peak it was hard to tell where the edges of rocks actually were because of the visuals, couldn't tell if my friend's mouth was actually moving or not except that I could hear him speaking undistorted. I was able to still navigate on instinct and by looking around rapidly, it was when I'd stare at one spot that I couldn't tell what was going on anymore.

I wrote a TR about that experience actually: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/773152

I tend to be relatively insensitive to lysergamides compared to many, but it was very strong for sure. next time I take it I'd probably go for 200ug or so, but I had 2 blotters of 150ug each and I wanted to make sure to get the most out of it, and I knew that in general 1 blotter of any lysergamide is not enough for me.

 

[Mr.Grateful]

Yeah actually I found it very serene. I spent the trip climbing boulders and waterfalls actually (on a route I'd done probably 40 times before, it's like my outdoor home). I found it more clearheaded than LSD, and after the come-up it felt very calm and centered, sort of mescaline-like in the headspace, but a little more out there. I enjoyed it very much. I didn't end up smoking cannabis because I figured I was high enough already for the situation. During the peak it was hard to tell where the edges of rocks actually were because of the visuals, couldn't tell if my friend's mouth was actually moving or not except that I could hear him speaking undistorted. I was able to still navigate on instinct and by looking around rapidly, it was when I'd stare at one spot that I couldn't tell what was going on anymore.

I wrote a TR about that experience actually: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/773152

I tend to be relatively insensitive to lysergamides compared to many, but it was very strong for sure. next time I take it I'd probably go for 200ug or so, but I had 2 blotters of 150ug each and I wanted to make sure to get the most out of it, and I knew that in general 1 blotter of any lysergamide is not enough for me.

Thanks for sharing! Awesome and very detailed trip report.

Next time i'll try 125-150ug of Eth-lad and see where it takes me. Yeah and after your report i'm kind of curious what Al-lad is like, since you were talking about the euphoria it gave you. To this day i tried Lsd along with some very light hash smoked out of a bong (looong time ago and by far my best lysergamide experience), 1p-lsd (smoked some potent weed with it, which brought up a little paranoia and negative CEV) and Eth-lad (smoking weed during the come down was beautiful). Never got the feeling and visuals Lsd gave me back then. I'm still looking for that particular lysergamide and since I can't get my hands on some Lsd i'll have to try the other lysergamides to find that magical experience. I'll write a report about my next Eth-lad experience

 

[Xorkoth]

I find AL-LAD to produce the most intense euphoria of the lysergamides available, and it also produces very distinct visuals that are quite different from LSD/ETH-LAD/etc. Seems rather shallow so far to me but tons of fun.

Anyway, I don't really think it's possible to ever match your early powerful psychedelic experiences, nothing can replace that novelty of never having forged those pathways before.

 

[cj187]

I agree with Xorkoth that you won't relive your first LSD experience by taking LSD again. Every trip is unique. You can take the same dose of acid 2 different times and it can feel like a completely different drug, especially if you are comparing a trip now to your first trip years ago. That's why 1P-LSD felt so different to you. Set and setting makes more difference than the drug itself. If you take LSD again, it will probably be very different from what you are expecting.

 

[Mr.Grateful]

I find AL-LAD to produce the most intense euphoria of the lysergamides available, and it also produces very distinct visuals that are quite different from LSD/ETH-LAD/etc. Seems rather shallow so far to me but tons of fun.

Anyway, I don't really think it's possible to ever match your early powerful psychedelic experiences, nothing can replace that novelty of never having forged those pathways before.

Al-lad sounds like a lot of fun ) I'll go for it when the time comes.

The Lsd experience was soo intense. I was laughing soo hard and the visuals..oh my..For example, I looked at my arm and imagined it to be wooden and all of a sudden I had this arm like pinoccio lol. My mind was so sharp and i was using my brain capacity like i never did before. I saw all kinds of colors in the air and my buddys face morphed to different persons faces..i was out there but in a beautiful way.

 

[Mr.Grateful]

I agree with Xorkoth that you won't relive your first LSD experience by taking LSD again. Every trip is unique. You can take the same dose of acid 2 different times and it can feel like a completely different drug, especially if you are comparing a trip now to your first trip years ago. That's why 1P-LSD felt so different to you. Set and setting makes more difference than the drug itself. If you take LSD again, it will probably be very different from what you are expecting.

I understand. There's one thing i always have to think about. When i took the Lsd the visuals didn't kick in until I smoked one bowl of some LIGHT hash. Right after I exhaled I started seeing little stars in my vision and the visuals came in like crazy.

BUT when i take psychedelics nowadays and smoke some weed during the peak or after the peak it always seem to have negative effects like little paranoia and strange thought loops. Therefore I usually smoke when coming down, that's always very very nice. Now i'm really starting to think that it might has something to do with the potency of the weed I'm smoking, because I always smoke potent weed nowadays. But the hash i smoked during my Lsd experience wasn't really potent at all compared to the weed that is being produced today. I'll find out when i get my hands on some bad weed lol..

 

[Flowsurrender]

Hi everyone, new to the site.. But have enjoyed this thread immensely.. Just finished reading all 27 pages .

I recently became interested in Eth-lad after going roughly fifteen years without psychedelics in my life (with the exception of marijuana which I believe is considered a psychedelic).

I have been looking for a channel to help process some life events and after initially looking into 1-p lsd online I discovered eth-lad.. The descriptions of this substance as something that you take for a ride vs acid taking you for a ride appeals to me at middle age lol.

I had taken mushrooms and lsd in the past but as I mentioned it's been decades since I've taken these so safe to say my tolerance is about as low as it could be.

Given my low tolerance and all the posts discussing how strong this substance is I decided to go low and cut my 100 micro blotter so that my tab was about 60 micrograms. I decided to take this early in the morning at home, remembering in my younger days how acid sometimes kept me awake until dawn.

I took the partial tab at 915 am and let it sit under my tongue for about ten minutes and then swallowed the tab.

As others have noted, there was a bit of a sour taste and I honestly started feeling a boost of energy within ten minutes..

Colour saturation was apparent within thirty minutes and within an hour i felt washed over by feelings of positivity, joy, empathy and a desire to connect with my family and friends.. Which struck me at the time as I remember acid making me pretty anti social and weirded out by the idea of talking to "straight" people. I started texting a few friends and family... I felt coherent, lucid and centered.. Texting with friends was rewarding. I'm naturally an introverted analytical type so this social proclivity was really apparent. This feeling was somewhat similar to MDMA but the desire to be around people felt more natural and less over the top.

As the trip progressed the serenity and joy increased and I found myself laughing pretty frequently... Music was stellar... Colour saturation was intense and my visual accuity was noticeably better... I kept noticing how dusty my house was .

I'll echo what others have said.. There is an initial plateau.. So I thought, this is great, I think I'll take the remainder of the tab... So I did.. Then the second plateau hit and it was strong.. Never felt anxious or freaked out but it was so strong that I found I couldn't focus on music or tv and ended up looking at family photo albums of my kids (I had planned for the entire day to myself) which was incredibly rewarding and helped me focus through the intensity of the second plateau. In one of the photos of my daughter riding her bicycle I distinctly saw a pedalling motion with her feet... Other visuals included staring at a painting and seeing the painting enlarging in size, coming at me (but in a pleasant way), then resetting back to normal size.

Even during the rush I felt capable of talking to people if I needed that and once the peak was over I could have managed interactionas with straight people easily.

The only negative with taking this so early was that the the comedown left me pretty tired by six pm. I found the comedown gentle compared to my memories of acid and as others have noted.. I was able to eat during the trip which I never felt able to do on acid.

I personally loved this substance it was fascinating mentally, emotionally and I've felt very grounded with a general reduction in anxiety since I took it four days ago. Highly recommended.

I hope I posted this message correctly

 

[pupnik]

great name FLowsurrender
glad you like ethlad too!

 

[Goodwalt]

This one seems perfect. Can't wait to try it. Could you fall asleep normally after the effects subsided?

 

[Flowsurrender]

I found falling asleep only slightly harder than usual.. I remember acid made it hard to fall asleep.. I'd close my eyes and they'd pop back open... None of that with Eth lad..

 

[perpetualdawn]

It's not as wiring as LSD is. I found it easier to fall asleep afterwords than with LSD. Like most psychedelics though, it would probably be hard to sleep on it while you're still actually high.

Eth-lad is a real gem! I can't wait until I can give it another go.

 

[sean107]

Same for me as well. I've been looking at a few vendors prices lately, now after reading this thread I'm tempted to order a strip or quarter sheet here soon.

I've missed ETH-LAD, but I also wanna order some 4-AcO-MET or 4-AcO-DMT soon too. Maybe I'll get all 3 but I need to save my $.

Mescaline feeling lysergamides are dope hah.