Can you shoot up Valium?

[AlwaysClutch15]

I only have a few pills, and shooting up is generally the most efficient way to get high.


So can you shoot up Valium? Is it more efficient?

 

[Burnt Offerings]

I only have a few pills, and shooting up is generally the most efficient way to get high.


So can you shoot up Valium? Is it more efficient?

There is diazepam for subcutaneous injections, but honestly if you have Valium pills you're probably better off just taking them as they're meant to be taken. The difference in bioavailability isn't terribly great if I remember correctly.

 

[neversickanymore]

benzos dont cause a rush as they dont manipulate the DRP, there is no reason to ever do this. Also benzos are almost insoluble in water. There are clear dangers associated with the fillers found in many pills when people inject or insufflated pills. Because of all this I would just eat the diazepam as this method is the safest and provides the best bioavailability and there is no advantage to shooting or sniffing these pills.

Diazepam has a solubility in water of 0.05mg per mL; 41mg per mL in 95% ethanol and 17mg per mL in propylene glycol.

http://www.pharminfotech.co.nz/manual/Formulation/mixtures/diazepam.html

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Shooting xanax was no better than swallowing the pills; I'm sure valium would be the same way. Oral bioavailability is in the 90% iirc.

Shooting isopropanol is painful & not advised; PG is usually more complicated to acquire.


Moral of the story: Don't shoot benzos.

 

[Nicholai]

By the time you managed to prepare a shot of valium properly you would be floating along nicely for 20 minutes or so using sublingual diaz....don't bother.

 

[neurotic]

Bangin benzos is pointless imo. Youd have to make an ethanol/PEG + water preparation an thatd be such a hassle. Imo the only situation to shoot benzos woukd be if you have some Dormonid ampoules and need to pass yourself out in 2 mins. Also, someone said before IV benzos dont provide a rush, anyone care to explain why? Is it because they dont mess with our brain's reward system?

 

[neversickanymore]

Yeah that it. I should have clarified.. the DRP stood for the dopamine reward pathway. Benzos as far as I know have little or no effect on this system.

 

[neurotic]

thanks dude

 

[paranoid android]

I have had the vials of diazepam made for IM/IV use and the only difference i found between oral and IV use was speed of onset. There certainly was no rush.

 

[5 meo dmTed]

Bangin benzos is pointless imo. Youd have to make an ethanol/PEG + water preparation an thatd be such a hassle. Imo the only situation to shoot benzos woukd be if you have some Dormonid ampoules and need to pass yourself out in 2 mins. Also, someone said before IV benzos dont provide a rush, anyone care to explain why? Is it because they dont mess with our brain's reward system?

If you are preparing it from pill form, this is next to impossible..I mean, there ARE quite a few members on the site here that have done it, like neurotic said, you'd be fuckin with a PEG/ethanol mix which is a huge hassle (not to mention it's not something I'd wanna fuck with and shoot up my arm..and I've tried the infamous "krokadil"). That being said, my friend, just eat/take them sublingual, it's the best way to achieve maximum results IMO, unless, as he also said, you have a couple ampoules and need to sedate yourself stat..lol, and I've been on almost every prescribed benzo you can imagine in Canada (even got my hands on a 120count stash of bromazepam, which, from what I've read, isn't even available in Canada, which brings me to wonder how the hell the person I nicked them off of got them in the first place..) but I'm getting off topic. My apologies; I just dosed an extra 50mg on my methadone and chewed up 4 valiums..I'm gettin bubbly I hope this was at least slightly helpful; just from my ten(ish) yrs of experience, chewing/swallowing valium is most effective, their size/makeup makes sublingual a little tough IMO.

 

[paranoid android]

^ Actually Bromazepam is still available in Canada and i know people who have been prescribed it though i haven't had it myself. It's available as a generic and as the Roche made name brand Lectopam. It's available in 1.5mg, 3mg and 6mg strengths. It is still prescribed a fair bit by old doctors pretty much the same as how nitrazepam is only prescribed by older doctors.

And yeah there is no way i would inject any benzo prepped for injection at home unless it was a water soluble one like say Dalmane (flurazepam) which is supposed to be a shitty benzo anyway no matter which way you take it. I haven't heard one good thing about it so i doubt id bother banging it. I think that's the only water soluble benzo on the market in Canada. I know IM Valium strings like a bitch due to the alcohol in it and you have to IV it slowly at no more then 5mg's per ml every minute or you could hurt your veins.

It's just not worth risking your arm or life over drugs that work fine orally, have as high of a oral bioavailability as you can get and doesn't produce any rush. The only difference is that IV Valium hit's quicker that's about it.

 

[captain66]

I have been wondering about shooting valium or xanax. iv herd that using isopropyl glycol diluted with water makes the active chemicals in the pills work because they are soluble .Im not sure the ratio but would love if someone who elaborate on the method to do so. always use a micron filter or wheel filter!!

 

[captain66]

i believe you can. you need to use isopropyl glycol diluted with water and make a mix with your pill then filter. benzos traditionally are not water soluble but are with iso! i my self have been trying to find this answer somewhere among these threads with no luck.Everyone just deters the answer by saying (oh its not water soluble... well no shit sherlock..... that question is how the fuck do i make this work if theres a way.I dont get why someone cant answer this super easy question..if boggles my mind.If someone knows the method plz awnser here!!

 

[opiatekrzy]

What's amusing is I have ran into countless addicts in my area who swear they get fucked up from shooting xanax, and klonopin. Besides the oral BA being so high, and being better off just eating them, they are not water soluble and cannot be IVed in pill form, as far as all these addicts I know personally that swear by it.. well idk? Retarded? Mind is a powerful thing? I can't really say if it works cause I wouldn't be stupid enough to try it knowing eating them works great and plus knowing they aren't water soluble

 

[Mracid]

Vallium is one of the best benzo regarding Bioavability I think its ove 95% so you don't have to care about that. If you want to increase the effect and reduce the time the drug needs to hit, just buyWhite Grape fruit juice (if you can get some I would replace WGFJ for Tagamet as it works better), lemon balm and crush the pills.

-First I would take the lemon balm 2 to 3 times, about 2 grams finely grounded dry leaves every 2-3 hours before Taking the vallium (it will build up your GABA levels)
-Then I would drink about 500ml WGF juice an hour before the vallium (to reduce the enzyme that destroys vallium which will create an increase in blood plasma concentration and increase the already high Bioavability)
-Then I would crush the Vallium take it
-Then I would dose 1 to 2 grams of Lemon balm every 4 hours to keep the GABA leves the highest possible and drink the 500ml of WGF juice over the rest of the day to keep the enzyme level lowest possible.

This combination of actions and plant/fruit juice. Will allow you to gailn an increase of potency of about 50%, an increase of the ''rush'' of about 30% and an increase of duration of about 100%.
I do that with clonazepam and it works great, a 1mg feels like a 2mg and now I split the 2mg in 2 and take em with a 5 hours interval which makes it feels like I take 4mg but I take 2mg.

 

[Amaraline]

If you are preparing it from pill form, this is next to impossible..I mean, there ARE quite a few members on the site here that have done it, like neurotic said, you'd be fuckin with a PEG/ethanol mix which is a huge hassle (not to mention it's not something I'd wanna fuck with and shoot up my arm..and I've tried the infamous "krokadil"). That being said, my friend, just eat/take them sublingual, it's the best way to achieve maximum results IMO, unless, as he also said, you have a couple ampoules and need to sedate yourself stat..lol, and I've been on almost every prescribed benzo you can imagine in Canada (even got my hands on a 120count stash of bromazepam, which, from what I've read, isn't even available in Canada, which brings me to wonder how the hell the person I nicked them off of got them in the first place..) but I'm getting off topic. My apologies; I just dosed an extra 50mg on my methadone and chewed up 4 valiums..I'm gettin bubbly I hope this was at least slightly helpful; just from my ten(ish) yrs of experience, chewing/swallowing valium is most effective, their size/makeup makes sublingual a little tough IMO.

Holy shit dude, you actually tried Krokodil?! That's like the most dangerous drug to ingest that I've ever even heard of! It's not like you get pure desomorphine, it's codeine pills cooked up w/ gasoline, iodine, industrial drain cleaner, and I don't know what else. Were you in Russia or the Ukraine, or something? Btw, how did that experience go, if I may ask?

 

[opiatekrzy]

What exactly is this krokadil? Does mixing codeine with all these solvents create a new molecule that's a new opiate? Or is it the nasty mixture that fucks people up? If it is synthesized properly in a lab can it be safe and stronger? I heard about it years ago but not familiar. ..

 

[Ilove2nod]

I see absolutely no reason for anyone to do something this terrible and wasteful to you.. it is dangerous, and useless.. if you are using a valium tablet, and water... no no no! not going to work.. that is just what happens when people get too into IVDU, I wanted to shoot every drug I had ever taken when I began to IV opioids and coke... my curiosity just kept tempting me to want to try so many different things I had taken orally, sniffed, smoked, etc. in the past, before picking up the needle.. but never, knowing benzos, for the most part(besides temazepam and a few more, less commonly prescribed ones)were mostly, if not totally(depending on the benzo) insoluble in water, did I even consider trying this.. I would only try it if it came in an already made vial, made to be injected.. that's totally feasible.. but making your own shootable benzo solutions using PG/alcohol, can be risky, if not done exactly right.. just take them orally! if that isn't good enough, parachute, chew, or take them sublingual.. but never shoot them.. and I have never tried, but I have heard its possible to plug certain benzos, has anyone tried this and had any kind of better efficiency through this ROA?

 

[keeping]

there's no reason to man, i guess if you've got a needle fixation it might seem attractive but as a general rule don't shoot pills.
there are some benzos like Midazolam which are injectable - get those?

What exactly is this krokadil? Does mixing codeine with all these solvents create a new molecule that's a new opiate? Or is it the nasty mixture that fucks people up? If it is synthesized properly in a lab can it be safe and stronger? I heard about it years ago but not familiar. ..

krok is a homemade desomorphine tincture that's super fun until you basically get leprosy and die in agony.
vice did a documentary about it a while ago.
had a quick google re: properly synthesized desomorph and turns it was previously used in Switzerland (where it was only used to treat one patient lol) & Russia under the brand name Permonid to treat severe pain and didn't make your arm fall off. It was discontinued in 1981.

 

[George27]

What's amusing is I have ran into countless addicts in my area who swear they get fucked up from shooting xanax, and klonopin.

Also here.
When it was available in liquid form ( drops for orla use i mean), also with flunitrazepam ( Roypnol)
It gives a rush and it's a pretty hard a zombifyng drug.