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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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@dull,
Hey mate. You asked about Ciggies & Viagra. I smoke 30-50 rollies a day. It's putrid & something I've always hated (my old man was a smoker), yet I started when they locked me in hospital & haven't managed to give it away just yet simply because it's something to do. I feel nothing when I smoke. There's a Cigar/Tobacco you can buy - Mapacho (nicotina rustica from memory) - which the shamans and tribal peoples smoke as ceremony. I found some on eBay. It's apparently 30x stronger than usual tobacco, and I was told that it helps restore dopamine levels. .... It's heavy shit, which you will certainly feel. For me, I feel instantly happier - like quenching a thirst I guess. Awesome stuff.
I broke up with my mrs about 3 months ago now, did try viagra once. It was horrible. Works, quite well. But gave me a sore heart mid-way thru, so I chucked it. We broke up shortly after haha >:D

@topic of hypersexuality,
I can confirm. Shit's real. Some (at least the ones they document) antipsychotics are known to be the cause of this. Abilify has a warning by the FDA;"may lead to compulsive gambling, spending & sex". Sounds like a good life to me though. See: http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/ucm498662.htm

@Gdvffh,
Cheering for you mate! Can only imagine how good this must've been for you!
Did you try a few different types of alcohol? I sorta mix beer, wine, whiskey, tobacco, weed, .. which works, but beer alone doesn't do much.
Either way - thanks for the update & hoping it continues :)

@NotAPsycho,
Man, reading your post. It fucking sucks. It's as if I'm reading my own journal Fucking horrible & pissed off at the people who have done this to you.
I dunno if it helps, but someone I know who's been doing this psychiatry shit for 50+ years told me it will take between 12 & 24 months in total. So I guess there's still hope yet? I'm sorry man.

@LuiBliss,
Hello :) Welcome ! I've heard great things about rhodiola & will be sure to start it soon myself. Really appreciate your video - I definitely agree with all that you say & wish you well friend :)


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@all,
here is a picture of me the DAY before I went to hospital:
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here is a picture of me after being forcefully injected with antipsychotics for just ~2 months:
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Draw your own conclusions as to what these types of drugs do to ones state of health. I personally, was quick to realize not only the dangers to my life, but also the fact that it was robbing me of all things that made me me. Nowadays, I am focused solely on healing.

Also, apologies for the length of this, but thought this article may be of interest to some:
http://www.organiclifestylemagazine...e-endocrine-system-and-balancing-our-hormones

The endocrine system is essentially the physical manifestation (glands) of our spiritual chakras (energy centres). Whilst this may sound like mumbo-jumbo psychotic talk to some, it is the culmination of my past 7 years research & experience. Either way, considering that psychosis is just a sick term to describe a spiritual experience (whether you agree or disagree does not matter), and that anti-psychotics primarily target & wreak havoc on the endocrine system (proven fact) - healing this is a crual step in the overall recovery process, at least in my opinion which I confirmed with qualified doctors worldwide.

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EDIT: Sorry about my fat head clogging up this post, I'm using Linux and have no clue how to resize an image.
 
ZombieMode said:
@dull,
There's a Cigar/Tobacco you can buy - Mapacho (nicotina rustica from memory) - which the shamans and tribal peoples smoke as ceremony. I found some on eBay. It's apparently 30x stronger than usual tobacco, and I was told that it helps restore dopamine levels
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Helps restore Dopamine levels? I don't believe that. wheres your evidence?
 
@ZombieMode very funny about the rollies, I do the same thing. Only I am too lazy to roll so many, I only smoke maybe 2-5 a day now. It's just something I pick up every couple months or years. I can sit and smoke an entire pack at a time, though. I start every day by stepping outside with my music player and having one, it helps me think and get some positivity for the day.

The hypersexuality is for sure real, and I don't think I am misusing the term; I did not act on it, but was riddled with butterflies and fantastical thinking of being with someone. It was actually quite fun and very welcomed this time, it makes you feel alive, that's for sure.
 
DISCLAIMER: none of this that follows or what I have posted in the past is medical advice. It was ignorant of me to assume that everyone is aware of the potential hazards of tobacco.
I mean, in this day and age, probably best I actually shut up rather than trying to pass on information I found to be invaluable when it was passed on to me.
If someone else is aware of methods (aside from the usual: good diet, exercise, etc) to actually "Come off Invega Sustenna" & recover from its damage - I'd love to hear. It seems I've missed the point of this thread.
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dull said:
Helps restore Dopamine levels? I don't believe that. wheres your evidence?
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It helps to break down the enzymes of the antipsychotic in the blood. "resulting in significant lower clozapine serum concentrations in smokers compared with non-smokers". Naturally I was in disbelief at first too when I was told about this by people who have been on the shit for decades.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12618594

Which is why, at least the way they run things in australia, they give you a higher dose of the drug for being a smoker. They told me that whilst they were drugging me.
https://www.nps.org.au/australian-prescriber/articles/smoking-and-drug-interactions

Or, if you need to confirm this with a "qualified" doctor; email mine @ [email protected]. Her name is Yola. As far as I know she's connected with the likes of Peter Breggin. Or just ask your own?


Tim32 said:
Ciggaretes don't restore dopamine. The dopamine receptors are blocked.
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OK. How do we unblock them? Let me know please so I can stop wasting time by first trying to remove the remaining poison from my blood.


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Again, do whatever the fuck you want. If nothing else, let this be a *potential* way for smokers who already smoke to feel less bad about smoking.

Fuck i need a smoke.
 
ZombieMode said:
@LuiBliss,
Hello :) Welcome ! I've heard great things about rhodiola & will be sure to start it soon myself. Really appreciate your video - I definitely agree with all that you say & wish you well friend :)
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Thanks for the greetings, and I'm glad you liked my videos. I suggest you subscribe to my channel as I will be documenting my journey of getting off these psychotropic medications.

ZombieMode said:
If someone else is aware of methods (aside from the usual: good diet, exercise, etc) to actually "Come off Invega Sustenna" & recover from its damage - I'd love to hear. It seems I've missed the point of this thread.
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A big one is of course, meditation. I doubt you can even comprehend the profound effects the meditation has on the the health and psych of the human mind, body and spirit. It is highly recommended and scientific research has proven that which I am expressing in this post.

So all in all a proper diet (Ketogenic diet is a good one -removes all sugars from diet which is a mood altering substance and is a poison) exercise- running/jogging for 30 mins 3 times/week and adequate supplementation. Also if you are able to incorporate a team such as friends and family who are supportive in addition to perhaps a therapist who understands your situation and is supportive and it would be magnificent if you find a holistic doctor such as TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) or Naturopathic Doctor.

With these in check and your determination you are bound to attain adequate health to your satisfaction but it does require an effort on your part. You gotta get off your ass.

Best Wishes
 
ZombieMode said:
DISCLAIMER: none of this that follows or what I have posted in the past is medical advice. It was ignorant of me to assume that everyone is aware of the potential hazards of tobacco.
I mean, in this day and age, probably best I actually shut up rather than trying to pass on information I found to be invaluable when it was passed on to me.
If someone else is aware of methods (aside from the usual: good diet, exercise, etc) to actually "Come off Invega Sustenna" & recover from its damage - I'd love to hear. It seems I've missed the point of this thread.
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It helps to break down the enzymes of the antipsychotic in the blood. "resulting in significant lower clozapine serum concentrations in smokers compared with non-smokers". Naturally I was in disbelief at first too when I was told about this by people who have been on the shit for decades.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12618594

Which is why, at least the way they run things in australia, they give you a higher dose of the drug for being a smoker. They told me that whilst they were drugging me.
https://www.nps.org.au/australian-prescriber/articles/smoking-and-drug-interactions

Or, if you need to confirm this with a "qualified" doctor; email mine @ [email protected]. Her name is Yola. As far as I know she's connected with the likes of Peter Breggin. Or just ask your own?




OK. How do we unblock them? Let me know please so I can stop wasting time by first trying to remove the remaining poison from my blood.


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Again, do whatever the fuck you want. If nothing else, let this be a *potential* way for smokers who already smoke to feel less bad about smoking.

Fuck i need a smoke.
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Those studies are on Clozapine and olanzapine not for Invega but if you show me evidence of it effecting invega then ill take up smoking for a lil while lol
 
LuiBliss said:
Thanks for the greetings, and I'm glad you liked my videos. I suggest you subscribe to my channel as I will be documenting my journey of getting off these psychotropic medications.



A big one is of course, meditation. I doubt you can even comprehend the profound effects the meditation has on the the health and psych of the human mind, body and spirit. It is highly recommended and scientific research has proven that which I am expressing in this post.

So all in all a proper diet (Ketogenic diet is a good one -removes all sugars from diet which is a mood altering substance and is a poison) exercise- running/jogging for 30 mins 3 times/week and adequate supplementation. Also if you are able to incorporate a team such as friends and family who are supportive in addition to perhaps a therapist who understands your situation and is supportive and it would be magnificent if you find a holistic doctor such as TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) or Naturopathic Doctor.

With these in check and your determination you are bound to attain adequate health to your satisfaction but it does require an effort on your part. You gotta get off your ass.

Best Wishes
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whats Ketogenic diet?
 
dull said:
whats Ketogenic diet?
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Ketogenic diet is essentially a low carb high fat diet. It is called ketogenic because the diet induces in you a state of ketosis. Being in ketosis is basically when your body utilizes fat instead of glucose for energy.

Glucose is the goto source of energy for the body because of its ease in converting it to energy. Your body usually does not utilize fat as a source of energy (although it is a superior one) until the body is out of glucose.

So essentially, with a ketogenic diet you cut out all forms of glucose and thus burn fat for energy and end up feeling much better, have optimal weight and more...

There is ample resources online if you are interested... all you need to do is search.

Also, this diet has been used to treat people with epilepsy. For those with bipolar, the meds used for bipolar are very similar to those of epilepsy. So correlations have been brought to light.
 
I tried ketogenic diet the first month while on the poisons i did it in mix with exercise, i did not loose a single pound, heck the crazy thing is.... I accually GAINED fat while doing it because of the poisons. The only way to loose fat after gaining it from those, it is the stop tbe poison altogether.
 
Lazar said:
I tried ketogenic diet the first month while on the poisons i did it in mix with exercise, i did not loose a single pound, heck the crazy thing is.... I accually GAINED fat while doing it because of the poisons. The only way to loose fat after gaining it from those, it is the stop tbe poison altogether.
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Lazar, are you sure you reached ketosis?

While I can attest to the difficulty of losing weight on these drugs (for me its the belly fat) I have personally lost many lbs while on it as is the experience of thousands of individuals even on meds.

The most questionable aspect of your responce is me wondering if you were doing the diet right.

I would suggest you give this diet another sincere shot as it is probably the best thing you could do diet wise whether on meds or off.
 
7 months off and no improvement. I swear this is fucking ridiculous. How could they even allow this injection. I swear I would go on a murder suicide to take down the people responsible for my health problem. Fuck Harbor Ucla medical center... If I can go back to the time the lady injected me, I'd grab the needle and jab it in her fucking eye... It's like no sex, no exercise, depression, seriously it's like hell on earth. Bob, Tina, Ross, didn't heal after being 1.5 years off this med.
 
If i could go back in time, i would choose at at least 7 months prior to my first psychiatric imprisonment, i would continue life as normal, lift weights, eat healthy, listen to ausome music, excell in school, love my friends and family and love life..... However, i would be fully aware that if i show the slightest bit of anger, the white coat wearing lunatics/psychopaths would imprison me in their house of poison. You cant begin to imagine how much i want to turn back time to when life was infinitely better.
 
Lui Bliss, your videos are great. In response to Ketosis, however, I can guarantee you that even in Ketosis a person on Invega may be unable to lose weight. It was true for myself when I tried it two years ago. I am again completely unable to lose weight at this time, but I should be able to in another 3-5 months, at least intermittently. But my brother and his now wife did the Keto diet to prep for their wedding, and although my brother has always been tiny, his wife lost a whole bunch of weight on the diet. So I do vouche for its credibility.
 
Hey guys, I think I may have pretty much recovered at this point, I can think on both sides of brain, I have motivation and energy again. I seriously thought I would never recover, but it seems I have.

If anyone wants to know how to recover, I think it's diet and exercise, just keep on exercising and eating healthy and your condition will improve. You need your body to get the nutrition it needs to have the energy to restore your brain, just sitting your ass on the couch and waiting for time won't work.

What I was consuming was, alot of milk, bread, avocado, meat. I was going to the sauna and exercising,. Try those things to get better as opposed to just siting on your ass all day. Try 1 step at a time, and I'm sure you guys will see improvements. Trust me, it's a slow process, buy you will improve with time. Good luck to you all! I know how torturous it was, and I remember thinking I would never get better and I did. So I hope you guys will be able to as well. Just remember to stay the fuck away from psychiatrist and psychiatric drugs, those things are poison! Mental to rid of ppl society doesn't like.
 
Gdvffh said:
Hey guys, I think I may have pretty much recovered at this point, I can think on both sides of brain, I have motivation and energy again. I seriously thought I would never recover, but it seems I have.

If anyone wants to know how to recover, I think it's diet and exercise, just keep on exercising and eating healthy and your condition will improve. You need your body to get the nutrition it needs to have the energy to restore your brain, just sitting your ass on the couch and waiting for time won't work.

What I was consuming was, alot of milk, bread, avocado, meat. I was going to the sauna and exercising,. Try those things to get better as opposed to just siting on your ass all day. Try 1 step at a time, and I'm sure you guys will see improvements. Trust me, it's a slow process, buy you will improve with time. Good luck to you all! I know how torturous it was, and I remember thinking I would never get better and I did. So I hope you guys will be able to as well. Just remember to stay the fuck away from psychiatrist and psychiatric drugs, those things are poison! Mental to rid of ppl society doesn't like.
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Did you fully recover your sex drive. Are you able to get a natural erection without Manuel stimulation? How long have you been off Invega Sustenna? I have been off for 7 months and no improvement.
 
LuiBliss said:
Ketogenic diet is essentially a low carb high fat diet. It is called ketogenic because the diet induces in you a state of ketosis. Being in ketosis is basically when your body utilizes fat instead of glucose for energy.

Glucose is the goto source of energy for the body because of its ease in converting it to energy. Your body usually does not utilize fat as a source of energy (although it is a superior one) until the body is out of glucose.

So essentially, with a ketogenic diet you cut out all forms of glucose and thus burn fat for energy and end up feeling much better, have optimal weight and more...

There is ample resources online if you are interested... all you need to do is search.

Also, this diet has been used to treat people with epilepsy. For those with bipolar, the meds used for bipolar are very similar to those of epilepsy. So correlations have been brought to light.
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what type of foods are in a ketogenic diet?
 
invapo said:
Lui Bliss, your videos are great. In response to Ketosis, however, I can guarantee you that even in Ketosis a person on Invega may be unable to lose weight. It was true for myself when I tried it two years ago. I am again completely unable to lose weight at this time, but I should be able to in another 3-5 months, at least intermittently. But my brother and his now wife did the Keto diet to prep for their wedding, and although my brother has always been tiny, his wife lost a whole bunch of weight on the diet. So I do vouche for its credibility.
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Thanks for your kind words.

As for people on on invega losing weight, like I said, I also attest to the difficulty of losing weight while on invega, however, I believe it is not impossible.

Also, aside from losing weight, being on some diets provide ample benefits aside from weight loss as food has been proven to have physiological influence. Cutting off sugar from your life, for instance, is bound to have drastic influence on your mood, outlook on life, and your recovery from these poisons to say the least.
 
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