Gabapentinoids Phenibut Megathread

[belfort]

I was thinking a while ago about something concerning Phenibut that would be pretty good, IMO. What if you were to take the dose that you've found to make you much more sociable, and then added a low(-ish) dose of any good stimulant? I think that would be a pretty good combination, the Phenibut for easing social anxiety and inhibitions, and the stimulant to make you more inclined to do things, talk, socialize, dance, and have a blast.

Does anyone know from experience if this kind of a combo is worth trying, or basically just the same as alcohol-induced sociability mixed with alcohol-induced socializing, without the other alcohol effects?

On another note: I feel so lovey when I'm on Phenibut, and I feel like people are so much nicer when I'm on it. It just makes me smile

a mild stim used alongside a nice dose of phenibut makes for a very nice night out..one thing to make this combo about 20-30% more effective is to dose a nice higher dosage of phenibut in the morning, later on, take the stim, wait for it to kick in, then get a hard workout in..you will feel like a different person if you try this out, i guarantee..

btw i am now 3 ad a half days clean from phenibut, i dont notice any withdrawals tbh ..i have taken phenibut daily for many years, i stagger my doses, most days i take a small maintenance dose of maybe 1200-1500 mgs but on days when i will need the strong mood boosting and much increased social drive i will take 4-5 grams in the morning.so again im not trying to complain about not feeling wds i just think its strange as phenibut has a very nasty rep for wds..maybe it takes 4-5 days to kick in?

btw whoever said bitcoins are hard, i disagree completely!i used to think the same way, i couldnt learn bitcoins for some reason..then 4-5 days ago i spent maybe 30 minutes reading a '5 step' guide online on how to buy and spend bitcoins..well, it is easier than using a paypal acct imo..i wish i would have learned to use bitcoins a few years ago

 

[Ziiirp]

Lol, when you take 5 grams, it won't be completely washed out of your system until ~3 days.

 

[Sobrietysucks]

Oh, ok! Thanks! I have just read horror stories about it and didn't know dosing daily as long as it is within minimal mg's was possible. Good to know!

The horror stories are greatly exaggerated. 1.you have to use a ridiculous ammount for a long time for withdrawals. 2. wds nothing compared to benzo wd.

 

[Sobrietysucks]

I was thinking a while ago about something concerning Phenibut that would be pretty good, IMO. What if you were to take the dose that you've found to make you much more sociable, and then added a low(-ish) dose of any good stimulant? I think that would be a pretty good combination, the Phenibut for easing social anxiety and inhibitions, and the stimulant to make you more inclined to do things, talk, socialize, dance, and have a blast.

Does anyone know from experience if this kind of a combo is worth trying, or basically just the same as alcohol-induced sociability mixed with alcohol-induced socializing, without the other alcohol effects?

On another note: I feel so lovey when I'm on Phenibut, and I feel like people are so much nicer when I'm on it. It just makes me smile

Actually it is recommended to add a stimulant with Phenibut. It creates a synergy and cognitive enhancement with no side effects.

 

[Mycophile]

The horror stories are greatly exaggerated. 1.you have to use a ridiculous ammount for a long time for withdrawals. 2. wds nothing compared to benzo wd.

I don't think they are exaggerated at all, I just think different people respond differently.

I was cut off from Klonopin cold turkey after over a decade of daily use and got ZERO WDs but I don't think they are over exaggerated by the people who say they experience them, I just didn't.

Posters have reported visual and auditory hallucinations and multiple days of insomnia from Phenibut abuse.

I think you and Belfort are VERY rare in not having worse WDs.

 

[Sobrietysucks]

I don't think they are exaggerated at all, I just think different people respond differently.

I was cut off from Klonopin cold turkey after over a decade of daily use and got ZERO WDs but I don't think they are over exaggerated by the people who say they experience them, I just didn't.

Posters have reported visual and auditory hallucinations and multiple days of insomnia from Phenibut abuse.

I think you and Belfort are VERY rare in not having worse WDs.

The horror stories are the on the extreme spectrum of wds and by no means represent common or average withdrawals... I think the horror stories are very rare cases.

 

[Mycophile]

The horror stories are the on the extreme spectrum of wds and by no means represent common or average withdrawals... I think the horror stories are very rare cases.

I don't necessarily think you are right.

Or IF you are, I think you are probably on the other far end of the spectrum.

One way or another Phenibut is VERY addictive and you can get BADLY hooked VERY fast.

This is pretty much recognized by almost everyone around here.

I know Belfort pretty well, and for sure he is a rare example of someone who can use it as often as he can without having MUCH worse withdrawals.

 

[belfort]

I don't necessarily think you are right.

Or IF you are, I think you are probably on the other far end of the spectrum.

One way or another Phenibut is VERY addictive and you can get BADLY hooked VERY fast.

This is pretty much recognized by almost everyone around here.

I know Belfort pretty well, and for sure he is a rare example of someone who can use it as often as he can without having MUCH worse withdrawals.

i know a good chunk of guys who take phenibut for a year or longer at 2-3 grams and above end up with very bad withdrawals..now i have no idea if this % of guys who get nasty wds are 90% or maybe 60% im not sure but i very rarely come across a report where someone jumped off phenibut after a year or so of chronic use who claimed they felt very mild withdrawals..i dont remember seeing any tbh

oh yes i dont want to try to sound like a special guy because i dont seem to get phenibut withdrawals i just am very puzzled by it..ive taken it daily for over 4 years and jumped off cold turkey last thursday..well the only wd symptoms i might feel to a small degree is a sense of restlessness and insomnia..i dont even notice much of a mood drop and this is strange as i always experience terrible moods when i quit other drugs

i have at times felt irresponsible for telling people that ive used pheni daily for many years and ran into very little problem.granted i do have my own dosing system which has helped me keep tolerance low and good effects still noticeable..

 

[CosmicG]

Do you take any other drugs that may be alleviate some of the withdrawal symptoms?

 

[Sobrietysucks]

Lol. One of the "horror" stories was about a guy dosing phenibut every 2-3 hours. That is absolute insanity. Yeah, anyone using phenibut like crack will get withdrawals. But if you are a new user, you have nothing to worry about.


if you are thinking of trying of phenibut , just experiment with doses and focus on figuring out your sweet spot to enjoy phenibut as much as possible and get the most out of it. Don't let those exaggerated horror stories scare you. I wish someone would have told me that when I was new. I would have started using phenibut soo much sooner! lol

If you have no idea how to get started just go to subReddit /r/phenibut for a list of vendors of this legal nootropic and cognitive enhancer.

 

[Oxygal]

Lol. One of the "horror" stories was about a guy dosing phenibut every 2-3 hours. That is absolute insanity. Yeah, anyone using phenibut like crack will get withdrawals. But if you are a new user, you have nothing to worry about.
if you are thinking of trying of phenibut , just experiment with doses and focus on figuring out your sweet spot to enjoy phenibut as much as possible and get the most out of it. Don't let those exaggerated horror stories scare you. I wish someone would have told me that when I was new. I would have started using phenibut soo much sooner! lol

If you have no idea how to get started just go to subReddit /r/phenibut for a list of vendors of this legal nootropic and cognitive enhancer.

If I start at a gram or 1.5 grams, it shouldn't make me drowsy, right? From what I've read, it's only at higher doses that help with sleep. I want to try it in the morning but obviously don't want to be a zombie all day.

 

[Sobrietysucks]

If I start at a gram or 1.5 grams, it shouldn't make me drowsy, right? From what I've read, it's only at higher doses that help with sleep. I want to try it in the morning but obviously don't want to be a zombie all day.

If you take it in the morning, you will feel energized. If you dose before bed, it will make you sleepy. Phenibut you can do whatever you want, be active or relax. It's not like a stimulant or benzo that you have to take it a certain time of the day or it'll mess you up. on Reddit it says to take 750mg per dose, and no more than 1.5g in a day. So you could split. I actually took only 750mg in the morning the other day, I felt so productive all day and slept great at night. At the 750mg dose, I didn't feel like I was on anything but my behavior was definitely different. I was smiling, talking to everyone and getting things done! Caffeine is also your friend on Phenibut, no crash or jitters. On 1.5g, I can really feel like it and my patience is increased... Stuck in traffic for 2 hours? No problem still in a good mood lol

 

[Oxygal]

If you take it in the morning, you will feel energized. If you dose before bed, it will make you sleepy. Phenibut you can do whatever you want, be active or relax. It's not like a stimulant or benzo that you have to take it a certain time of the day or it'll mess you up. on Reddit it says to take 750mg per dose, and no more than 1.5g in a day. So you could split. I actually took only 750mg in the morning the other day, I felt so productive all day and slept great at night. At the 750mg dose, I didn't feel like I was on anything but my behavior was definitely different. I was smiling, talking to everyone and getting things done! Caffeine is also your friend on Phenibut, no crash or jitters. On 1.5g, I can really feel like it and my patience is increased... Stuck in traffic for 2 hours? No problem still in a good mood lol

I'm excited! My package got delayed (stupid UPS) but will be here by 10:30AM. Looks like it's going to be a good day! Thanks for the info!

 

[belfort]

Lol, when you take 5 grams, it won't be completely washed out of your system until ~3 days.

true but withdrawals would set in days before

 

[Sobrietysucks]

I'm excited! My package got delayed (stupid UPS) but will be here by 10:30AM. Looks like it's going to be a good day! Thanks for the info!

Nice it's my phenibut day today so it's been a great day so far to say the least! Lol. Let us know about your first experience

 

[Oxygal]

It's been a while since I've tried phenibut, and I never did feel much from it. Maybe my source isn't great. Or maybe I was scared of taking too much, so didn't take enough. I tried up to 1.5 grams. Any ideas?

 

[MDPV_Psychosis]

It's been a while since I've tried phenibut, and I never did feel much from it. Maybe my source isn't great. Or maybe I was scared of taking too much, so didn't take enough. I tried up to 1.5 grams. Any ideas?

Any of those reasons may be why. It could also be that phenibut is not for you. But I bet you haven't taken enough yet. Everyone's dose is different.

I never got anything worthwhile out of phenibut until I tried 1.6g. For years I thought it was worthless to me because I never took enough. I finally decided to try 1.6g recently and I finally discovered what all the fuss is about.

You could try taking more: increase your dosage to something like 1.75g next time, then 2g. I bet youll discover the "magic". Just increase in increments, give yourself plenty of time (days) in between each dose.

 

[Oxygal]

Any of those reasons may be why. It could also be that phenibut is not for you. But I bet you haven't taken enough yet. Everyone's dose is different.

I never got anything worthwhile out of phenibut until I tried 1.6g. For years I thought it was worthless to me because I never took enough. I finally decided to try 1.6g recently and I finally discovered what all the fuss is about.

You could try taking more: increase your dosage to something like 1.75g next time, then 2g. I bet youll discover the "magic". Just increase in increments, give yourself plenty of time (days) in between each dose.

Thanks! I think I'll order some this Friday and give it one more shot. I just want to experience what everyone talks about! We will see how a larger dose goes!

 

[Mad Cow]

Hi everyone, I see that's a pretty old thread, but still... Phenibut is one of Russian drugs, which is routinely prescribed to nearly everyone. Just like piracetam. Russians believe in nootropics, that's the key. I grew up there I was prescribed piracetam every fall and winter, as "brain vitamins". I don't remember if it was effective, but it did not hurt me. I guess Phenibut is a similar stuff.

 

[Ziiirp]

No it is not. You can fuck up quite easily with that one.

Careful Russians vouch for Rhodiola (the use of Rhodiola originated in Russia afaik). The only "cardiohealthy" stimulant out there IMHO. Hell it is even legal and promoted in Norway, available in supermarkets.

Phenibut was scheduled in many places recently anyways.