I had a love affair with Phenibut years ago. I took it a lot so if you're easily addicted, try to stay away. It potentiates Kratom and Klonopin. So you don't want to take a high dose of phenibut while using Kratom or Klonopin. Phenibut used to make me feel as good as etizolam. I don't use it anymore, but I might order some for whenever I run out of etizolam. My only use for it would be to stop withdrawals. I'm not addicted anymore, but it was the best drug. Be careful. People who don't know any better, take way too much and get nauseous and vomit. When you take too much of it and feel sick, you will feel sick the majority of the day because it lasts long. It's not a drug to mess around with carelessly. People need to know it kicks in in
2-4 hours so don't take more if you think it's not working. You'll be sorry.
Withdrawals were frightening. I'm trying to remember how I got through it, probably with Klonopin to taper off. Both work on GABA.
While I respect your opinion I've now combined up to 4,000mgs of Phenibut with 1.5mgs of Klonopin and probably about an ounce of Kratom in a day at times with no problems.
I should mention that I ALWAYS spread my Phenibut dosages out.
I usually like to start with 3,200mgs as my first dose and since I feel it takes about 2 hours to kick in I won't take more till about 3 hours after the first dose, then I usually take around 200mgs to put me up to 3,400...wait another 2 1/2--3 hours and take maybe another 200---350 mgs...then an hour or two after that kicks in ramp it up to 4,000mgs before bed.
I just do it that way since the tub says you can take up to 4,000mgs safely so being the druggie I am I push it to that limit but I do NOT exceed it and I have NEVER taken even a TINY bit more than 4,000mgs in a 24 hour period.
I take Klonopin 5-6 days a week and I haven't felt it potentiate it much but i HAVE felt it potentiate Kratom and it's remarkable and great.
I think people just need to be SUPER strict about not exceed the 4,000mgs in a day mark and dont' take them all at once if you do decide to because if they are spread out you will be more likely to feel ok.
I can spread out 4,000mgs over 8 hours and feel fine but if I even took 3,600mgs in one shot I'd be falling asleep.
And I would NEVER EVER exceed 2 days a week or 8,000mgs in a week on two separate days.
I think I may have a larger tolerance naturally than the people who say not to take more than 1,500 mgs because the first time I EVER took it I start in the 2,000mgs range and still finished my night at 4,000mgs and woke up feeling fine the next day.
I don't think withdrawal is likely to occur if people stick to these guidelines.
Oh, and most probably don't take melatonin on here but I take it every night so let me tell you...usually phenibut leaves me feeling very good the next day even if I didn't sleep more than 5-6 hours because I have heard that is an effect it has for some odd reason I can't explain....BUT, if you take Melatonin don't be exceeding about 3 millileters if you combine it with Phenibut or if you are like me you will NOT feel good the next day...
When I take Phenibut if I keep my Melatonin at night to 3 milileters or less I wake up feeling fine.
Of course, these are just my current tolerances based probably on weight, age, usage and all other sorts of shit so don't take my word for it.
BUT....Phenibut is not some horrible thing IF you are smart enough to stick to guidelines.
Pinpoints thread "My Phenibut Affair" did the GREAT job of scaring the SHIT out of me early and convinced me to NEVER use this stuff more than twice a week and I KNOW now I never will.
If people could just be sufficiently scared away from excessive use (and be able to really know what "excessive use" is) they can stay safe.
I truly believe from my experience thus far that Phenibut is one of those drugs where "the dose makes the poison" is ESPECIALLY REALLY TRUE.
To me personally, it feels like something almost TOTALLY fine kept to one or two days a week MAX at the dosages I mentioned, and I bet if you even slightly go over that you'll be in a WORLD of hell.
I would be scared of it if I thought I'd fuck up and use more, but I know i won't...so please guys, be smart.