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The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread - Mad Manic Meo 3nity

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yepyepwoah said:
Shit happens to me all the time when I post on my phone. Like I will hit post, then it says im not logged in. Log in, postis gone. Hit back, nothng. The report I wrote in the swirly thread day or so ago, I had actually written the day before and I fucked it off somehow. What I retyped saved only a remnant of a remnant (Wheel of Time anyone? I am on my 2nd read through, currently book 12 "The Gathering Storm". Im rushing through because I know so many good parts are comming, but two books peft and I feel like I am losing my best friends :-( )

Appreciate the thought bluuberry. Makes me feel not so alone and fucked off.
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there are a lot of bugs on the mobile version. Posts that are deleted when I only try to edit them, not beeing able to separate text in paragraphs, and less anoying ones as well :(
 
Ahh yeah guise sorry I butchered that shit! My screen is fucked up and posting even on the desktop site on mobile can be brutal! It must be synchronity though that we all fucked up at similar times, eh?;);) I almost lost that post as well. I usually just ramble it out, post, then edit paragraphs in after if it's a long one... Pro-tip, make sure to copy every so often so if it gets fucked up, and does auto save you won't lose it! I know that awsome passionate feeling of making a vehement post only to lose it! Hopefully you'll be able to sum it up later BooBerry! I'd love to hear your thoughts!

I figured you were just joshing but it can be difficult to tell via text though. To me it's serious though. Not that I won't joke around, I'm really as chill and non-serious as possible the majority of the time. Like you though I get passionate about this stuff. I mean pretty much all the "OG" dissociative "fiends" have pretty much stated what a funky wonk fest this stuff is and the extreme need to be careful with it.

Seriously though I'm a huge fan of people believing what they want. It's awesome you talk to plants and stuff, wouldn't mind hearing about it sometime! Yepyephoe, I'm a big fan of meditation and yoga. I do them daily most times. Sometimes together. Just focusing my mind while I balance seeing how long I can hold the concentration and pose for. Believe me I've experienced some weird shit in life that seems fairly implausible to most people yet clearly happened to me.

Psychedelics are hard though because they "rev" the brain centers up causing them to work in unison where they normally would never react, so to me, of course strange things are going to happen. It's only logic to me. That doesn't mean have to mean it was predestined or anything. I'm just a believer that life is for the most part, random chaos. Like Solipsis said(ahh you get me man, not suprising though, your one of the most logical posters I've seen!<3)it's just equations coming together to form an end. If you look at these equations, of course you'll see patterns! There's a nearly infinite amount of them there.

For example a good friend of mine just died. He was only 25 and had just come into his own. The sort of guy who was awesomely unique and had just come into his own. Finally conquering the confidence he deserved always. Used to be pretty badly depressed but for the last few years was truly happy. What sort of predestination could there be in that? If I was different maybe I could sit around and make to me what are excuses like, "Oh maybe his fate was saved from a worse one.", or, "It was simply his time to go!". Of course those things could well be true but it's to me just the nonsensical chaos of life. I also think it's kind of an intellectual cope out to think that way. Just resigning yourself to some unknowable impossibility rather than to simply understand life is for the most part just cruel chaos.

Anyways I'm a huge fan of differing opinions though and only enjoy you guise more for being who and what you want to be. Making your own path. I think that's truly the most important thing that leads one to true happiness. As far as things go too, I always want people to challenge my thoughts with their own if we differ down some avenue! That's how you can grow as a person intellectually! <3 you fries and our great discussions on our differing beliefs.

P.S. I'm about to edit that post to stop the eye rape from happening! No means no!
 
Aww man Bluuberry I know the feels all too well because just a week or two ago I spent over 2 hours crafting the most incredible piece of stream-of-consciousness poetry I have ever written- the words I was synthesizing and way it all connected was insane...it started as a normal post on the psychedelic social thread and just kept going and going. Soon as I felt ready to submit it my broke-ass phone ghost-hit the back button like 5 times really quick.

I have since gotten a new phone, and now write large posts in google docs first. Lesson learned.
 
Help?!?! said:
For example a good friend of mine just died. He was only 25 and had just come into his own. The sort of guy who was awesomely unique and had just come into his own. Finally conquering the confidence he deserved always. Used to be pretty badly depressed but for the last few years was truly happy. What sort of predestination could there be in that? If I was different maybe I could sit around and make to me what are excuses like, "Oh maybe his fate was saved from a worse one.", or, "It was simply his time to go!". Of course those things could well be true but it's to me just the nonsensical chaos of life. I also think it's kind of an intellectual cope out to think that way. Just resigning yourself to some unknowable impossibility rather than to simply understand life is for the most part just cruel chaos.
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You are basically describing the difference between someone with 'faith' and religion (or even spirituality to a lesser degree- not believing in a man in the sky but nonetheless believing things that can't be outright proven) versus atheism/reductionism/determinism. I like to ride the line between the two, but I have to admit that some psychedelic experiences, most notably 3-meo-pcp and the other aryls, create such an amount of cognitive dissonance that I am forced to cross the line into 'faith' and concluding it as a 'spiritual experience'. It is so incomprehensible to my monkey mind that it it can only surrender to 'the mystery', with a larger proportion of me believing that the mystery is more than brushing off the phenomenology as apophenia.

I don't have an explanation for your friend, that is for each one to come to terms with in their own eyes, but I do half believe (is it possible to half believe? I think so) that there was a higher order to the events surrounding his last events.
 
Maybe, it is nice to believe there could be a greater purpose for things such as that. It's not so much about religion or faith for me as it is determined events(ex.fate)that have some "purpose" rather than just random chaos/noise. It'd be nice to think that life is simply transformed into a new form, like transcending to a new existence where the "soul" returns to the generalized consciousness of the "universe". Once again becoming one with infinity. Returned to the realm of possibility not defined by the restraints of human exsistence. His death was a horrible tragedy, with seemingly little to no meaning... No true purpose...no real foreseeable reasoning...

I feel you though in a sense with the difference that spirituality isn't exactly a mere construct of religion or faith, but more so a connection to one self with other lives/the universe. Knowing who you are at your core and such. For me at least!
 
This motherfucker has some deceptively long legs. Yesterday I dosed 15 mgs splitted in three doses two hour appart each in the afternoon/early evening. Than by night I attended a party and was feeling completely back to baseline when I was obviously not, until I smoked some bud that was offered to me and proceeded to get irresponsibly high and dissociated for a social setting like the one I was in (i.e. in a foreign county in a place with people I have just met). I could handle myself just fine and actually had a great time, but was just surprised about how the compound had trick me into thinking I was sober when it clearly wasn't the case. Never happened to me before on any substance, this is something to keep in mind when dosing. This one always get's too insane when I mix it with weed. I had also not smoked in a good three weeks so that definitely contributed to my getting a lot more stoned than wanted, he. Was a nice night anyway. This is a fun compound.

Help?!?! said:
I feel you though in a sense with the difference that spirituality isn't exactly a mere construct of religion or faith, but more so a connection to one self with other lives/the universe. Knowing who you are at your core and such. For me at least!
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I'm with you, man. The existence of consciousness is for me the greater argument against strict materialism. There's gotta be something besides pure matter, because al that I experience is happening in a plane that's appart from the objects and subjects with whom I interact. Sometimes my mental images and inner voice speak even louder to me than the physical events happening around me. Surely matter isn't all that there is. But that doesn't mean that immaterial things follow some kind of higher order pre-established plan. Even if there was a preconceived plan that determines everything in the universe we have no way to access it so why even think of it's possibility? I guess I only see value in thinking about what we can achieve as humans, and that is intrinsically glued to the question of "who we are as humans", what we desire, etc. In the end the world is what we make out of it. The only order to be found is that of our own will, continually pushing us to appropriate and interpret reality, processing it and shaping it to our own image.
 
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That's one reason tree MeO is insidious! Even if you don't dose it with a lot of routine, you'll think your baseline after sometime while in actuality due to its subtle nature, your still quite intoxicated!

Beautiful post IMG! I feel similarly when it comes to these things. Pondering such things as whether the universe follows some sort of map is nice but we'll never truly know so it's kinda just pointless mental masturbation.

"I don't believe in a fate that's falls on man however they act; but I believe in a fate that falls on man unless they act."

"All we are is a result of what we have thought. If a man speaks of acts with an evil thought, pain follows them. If a man speaks of acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him like a shadow that never leaves him."

"To conquer oneself is a greater task than conquering others."

"You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love, and affection."

"He who experiences the unity of life sees his own self in all beings, and all beings in his own self., and looks upon everything with an impartial eye."

"If we could see the miracle of a single flower clearly, our whole life would change."

"Thousands of candles can be lit from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Happiness never decreases by being shared."
 
So that's what it took from me. 3-MeO-PCP, some 2C-B, and a slew of nootropics, and that was it. I'm ready. I'm changing my life. I'm steering it where I want to go. I should've done this sooner, but it's happening now. Quit my shitty job. Going to turn it all around. Schedule a doctor appointment. Do everything that I WANT to do. No more waiting! Forget the money! Its my life! I can make it happen!

Or I'll come down and regret it, but no, I've never been in this state before. It's so clear. It's surreal. Things are going to be different now.

3-meo-pcp + 2C-B = good :)
 
You won't regret it, my friend.

I love all of you so much. I wish that my post hadn't vanished. I had a mystical experience today at the river with some friends while I was on tree meow and vaped a small dose of DMT. I dove into the cold water and it purged all of my heat, regrets, mistakes, etc. I will never be the same and I couldn't be happier about it.

I dream about a gathering of all the people in this thread. Can you imagine what beautiful creations would happen?

I posted a bunch of heart emojis but Bluelight continually erases every heart I put into my posts. So, <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

edit: this is like my 7th edit and BL keeps making these hearts appear and disappear. No joke.
 
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I had to do edit that post many, many times to make those hearts appear. Lol. Wtf. TREE MEOW!!
 
Hahaha! Awesome guise. Tree mehoe, 2c-B, and DMT are great combinations. One thing about the tree is that it really does shine in combos with other psychedelics, dissocaitives, and cannabinoids. Sedatives too a lesser extent because they make dealing with craziness far easier and more manageable as long as you don't get horribly fucked up on them. Cannabinoids alone make it awesome, really takes it from more background subtle activity to in your face insanity!

Quick heart creation on mobile, < then 3 to make all the hearts I have for you flies, <3<3<3<3<3<3!
 
Madrus said:
So that's what it took from me. 3-MeO-PCP, some 2C-B, and a slew of nootropics, and that was it. I'm ready. I'm changing my life. I'm steering it where I want to go. I should've done this sooner, but it's happening now. Quit my shitty job. Going to turn it all around. Schedule a doctor appointment. Do everything that I WANT to do. No more waiting! Forget the money! Its my life! I can make it happen!

Or I'll come down and regret it, but no, I've never been in this state before. It's so clear. It's surreal. Things are going to be different now.

3-meo-pcp + 2C-B = good :)
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Be careful, I once decided to change my life and stop studying after a LSD + ketamine trip. I was so convinced that this was the path to choose... I regreted it years after.
 
I think it would be like the second generation of the Acid Tests.

Last night I had an incredible excursion, definitely a +++ or ++++, but so amazing how there was no visual distortion or "fucked up" feeling. It's just so clean and clear. The lack of peripheral side effects is pretty much mindblowing. I was dancing ecstatically around my apartment for hours and chain smoking huge joints, wondering how long it was going to keep going like that. It went on for hours. I guess that it was what you would call a tree-M-E-hole (say that out loud ;)), wow. Just wow.

Grateful Dead - Can't Come Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ_jE-g4hyo

"I say to the man with the funny hat,
I can't come down!
It's plain to see,
I can't come down!
I've been set free!
Who you are, and what you do,
Don't make no difference to me!

They say I've begun to lose my grip,
My hold on reality is starting to slip,
Tell me to get off of this trip,
They say that it's like a sinking ship.
Life's sweet wine is too warm to sip,
And if I drink I'll surely flip.
I just say, as I take a dip,
I can't come down!
It's plain to see,
I've been set free"
 
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Bluuberry said:
I think it would be like the second generation of the Acid Tests.

Last night I had an incredible excursion, definitely a +++ or ++++, but so amazing how there was no visual distortion or "fucked up" feeling. It's just so clean and clear. The lack of peripheral side effects is pretty much mindblowing. I was dancing ecstatically around my apartment for hours and chain smoking huge joints, wondering how long it was going to keep going like that. It went on for hours. I guess that it was what you would call a tree-M-E-hole (say that out loud ;)), wow. Just wow.

Grateful Dead - Can't Come Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ_jE-g4hyo

"I say to the man with the funny hat,
I can't come down!
It's plain to see,
I can't come down!
I've been set free!
Who you are, and what you do,
Don't make no difference to me!

They say I've begun to lose my grip,
My hold on reality is starting to slip,
Tell me to get off of this trip,
They say that it's like a sinking ship.
Life's sweet wine is too warm to sip,
And if I drink I'll surely flip.
I just say, as I take a dip,
I can't come down!
It's plain to see,
I've been set free"
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You got me with your tree-meow. I'm starting to spread the word arround the area. Even if I'm the only one on kms arround that I'm aware knows what the fuck is 3-MeO-PCP ^^
 
Amazing what can happen in a thread in a week of not reading. I think I was able to tell that i'd like 'tree meow' by the vibes of the people posting here. So much open, honest, caring, intellectual discussion happening in this thread!

Help?!?! I think I share very much of your worldview and seeing it all written down like that was sort of comforting to me, like I had recognized a kindred soul. I would love to talk more but I find posting on my phone to be tiresome.

I've been finding lately that when I take some 3-meo-pcp in the morning after working night shift and I'm outside enjoying these beautiful spring days, I don't really feel high, just in tune with nature, and it is only when I go into the house that I ever feel really dissociated and 'fucked up'. I'm calling it the Bathroom Effect.

This talk of "tree meow" amuses me. My friends and I have been calling it 'Mania' for our shorthand.
 
MSK said:
Be careful, I once decided to change my life and stop studying after a LSD + ketamine trip. I was so convinced that this was the path to choose... I regreted it years after.
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=D

That's why I don't give a damn about epiphanies on any drug. It is just pure enhancement of creative juices or at least entertainment. There are more fertile paths to find one's own destiny than doing psychedelic drugs.
 
I've had thoughts or realizations on psychedelics that have led to real positive change in my awareness or life path, but they were the result of thinking about them later on and pulling the parts out of it that actually make sense, and then working to maintain that state and fully incorporate it into my self. One of the things they have really helped me with is to get to a place where I realized that I only have one life, and that I should be spending it doing things that I love, that put a fire in my soul, and surround myself with good, positive people, and try to enjoy every day as much as possible. But I didn't drop out, because I also need to support myself, and I want to have a comfortable life. I found a way to do both, but I would never plug away at a job I hate that slowly saps the joy out of my life just to make extra money. If I am able to have life's necessities and not be constantly anxious about money, that's enough for me. I already have what I need (love, passions to apply myself to, friends, food, shelter, and money to do things like go see music), I don't need a bigger house, or a new car, or to be able to buy all the latest things.

I will say I'm extremely glad I went to college and got a degree because it's allowed me to have a badass job where I can work from home, and it doesn't restrict my life very much at all, and my boss lets me get off early to go play shows. Hell, I'm working right now. That's so huge for me and it improves my quality of life so much. The fact is, unless you go live off the grid somewhere on property you don't own, you have to make money somehow to survive. At least some money, you can get by on less than many people do if you're resourceful, but it's pretty hard to just not have a job extendedly and have a good quality of life.
 
You are glad paying taxes for a government that exploits the whole world and proceeds to conquer countries for oil/power through wars and abuses its own unemployed inhabitants by glorifying patriotism and furthermore doesn't even provide a proper health care system for its population ? Quite delusional in my book. But going to gigs is more important I see. Another proof, that psychedelics do nothing in gaining a more general type of compassion towards unprivileged people worldwide.

I'm not saying, you are a bad person. I'm no better. But your post comes over as naive for me.
 
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