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The 3-FPM Discussion Thread V2. Fumes of Fiend Fuel

Sprout said:
As a HR board discussing something that is likely to cause some (and likely a fukkin' lot of) harm, we probably shouldn't be encouraging anyone... ;)
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Ummmm yea you're probably right there. On thinking - I hope there's not many casualties this last week/end with people caning as much RCs as possible. I was joking in my previous posts please be safe, please <3
I know that when this ban was originally meant to be implemented in April there were a few casualties in my local area as people were caning these substances until they're unconscious. Very dangerous n disturbing behaviour. I wouldn't want to see anyone in harm or dead. People can't to choose replay once their life has gone :( <3

F.U.B.A.R. said:
Postie been good. Currently having a vapour lunch ;)


Actually, this crystal ain't three bad. (See wot I did there?)
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I been trying to tell you the crystal wasn't bad ;) how much did ye get?

Evey
 
Now would be a good time to remind you all to weigh the baggie before opening and never to assume the actual weight is anywhere near what you ordered.
Received multiple items that were considerably overweight recently with the looming ban and wouldn't want someone splitting a "gram" up by eye and dropping 270mg instead of 70mg...
 
BecomingJulie said:
Well, it looks as though I'm going to end up never having tried 3-FPM now.

On the other hand, maybe the original, desfluoro- analogue will turn up again sometime in future, now there's no advantage of legality ..... Hey, a gal can dream :\
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Given the hold it's had on chatters here are youy upset you aren't going to try it? out of all the new rcs lately reading bout this particular substance and the addictions some members have gotten from it I wouldn't touch it
 
While possession may not be an offence, I have tried to discuss numerous times that the current MoDA punishes with relation to quantity - who's to say that 5.5g isn't to be deemed enough to be charged with supply?
 
Hey Sprout,

what are your recent encounters with vasculitis like ? I think you may have a point in hinting at it.

Are symptoms like :

- hurting extremeties
- high perceived blood pressure in extremeties, primarily feet
- bloodshed eyes
- high perceived relative heart size increase
- (minor but sinister) headaches

indicating acute vasculities ? When is the danger of a chronic condition apparent ? Doses were high and insufflated/oral. Symptoms vanish after 60h after last dose (of a 30-40h binge). During binge no problems at all are occuring. Really insidious drug and it is not thaaat functional to be honest. =D
 
Anyone go through temperature switches one mintes feel you're going to faint because its humid the next extremely cokd yet sweating. Only happens now n again but its like opiate WD when it happens. Nasty shit. Yes those headachez are bloody nasty.

Evey
 
Temperature switches I get 24h after the last dose. I get a hardcore pins and needles feeling when sweating (a bit) and hardcore itching to the extend I have to scratch body parts in public and seem obviously drugged and fucked. That is also one of the most concerning side effects. The sweat seems to be caustic or something. Or it is psychological to an extend.

I don't get withdrawals (I guess). It is all a big comedown. Now it is 5 1/2 days after the last dose of a 35h binge and I do not have any symptoms. But this stuff leads to generally addictive behaviour. I elevated my e-cig intake, although I hated nicotine before starting with regular 3-FPM use.

I cannot take stimulants recreationally, because I do not think it is fun at all. There are numerous better drug classes to have fun. It is just triggering dopamine transportation, that enables me to handle anti-fun-tasks and feel less frustrated instead of solving these things and feel awful. 3-FPM does not even enhance aural perception like most stimulants. The only plus is the missing side effects profile DURING the experience.
 
Yes the itching is terribly annoying. And then it gets exceedingly difficult to concentrate forgetting things literally minutes later. I thought stimulants were meant to enhance cognition not completely destroy it. Yea it does kind of enhance other behaviours to become addictive / compulsive but the less said of my experience in that area the better. Also things I'd normally keep secret I end up telling the world like it's perfectly normal thing to do hang on someone remind me of the positives of 3-FPM again? :p

Other pleasant symptoms
  • Numbness in parts (not experienced in awhile
  • Irritability n pure evil thoughts
  • Constipation
  • Memory loss
  • Paranoia
  • Anxiety at times
  • Indecisiveness

Shit I'm not really selling the idea of thus substance am I? Good. Keep away, kids it's shit n will turn you into a raving lunatic n you'll comedown wondering why you've 30+ text messages saying "fuck off" n every number you call is no longer recognised :) ok slightly exaggerated (my humour) but hopefully I got my point across.

Evey
 
I get everyone of those side effects despite Constipation (I know what you mean, but IMHO it is rather an upset stomach with following diarrhea) and Anxiety.

The numbness also reveals itself as minor extremity pain and it is really concerning because it could indicate the vasculitis (or a minor form of it) Sprout mentioned. Because of this everyone should stop binging on this shit, because vasculitis can lead to other complications. I don't know, if taking a vasodilator during the comedown helps. I can imagine, that taking a lot of Magnesium and l-Arginine eases the symptoms.

Think I'll switch back to street amph, although it smells too much. It is more reliable in fucking your weaker self in the arse and heart. 3-FPM celebrates a party with your weaker self and helps lying to your meta self.

In a few weeks I'll quit synthetic stims for good anyways. Hate the depleted feeling afterwards and cannot exercise while doing this venom regularly.
 
I literally took this for months on end n tne comedown was horriffic. So lethargic n flu-like - almost opiate WD-like symptoms. The last time when I quit this for 7 days I drank 3-thirds of a 4-pint green (seni-skimmed) milk n had no comedown at all. No word of a lie. I only drank so much milk cause of the excess thirst n there was nothing else to drink. I'm glad I did now.

Evey
 
Yes the come downs are not good - just lose interest in all aspects of life for about ten days (admittedly following a 10-15g 3 week run... Still - got my final batch and it is good quality so will enjoy the next week!
 
Eveleivibe said:
I literally took this for months on end n tne comedown was horriffic. So lethargic n flu-like - almost opiate WD-like symptoms. The last time when I quit this for 7 days I drank 3-thirds of a 4-pint green (seni-skimmed) milk n had no comedown at all. No word of a lie. I only drank so much milk cause of the excess thirst n there was nothing else to drink. I'm glad I did now.

Evey
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Maybe you have found the cure for the 3fpm comedown. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch considering how nutritious, re-hydrating, and calorific milk is. Stims all too often seem to if not actually shrink the stomach, they certainly blunt the appetite, and its common to forget to keep hydrated during a binge, so it seems quite obvious that dehydration and general depletion of the bodies energy and nutrient reserves are what is at least in good part behind the physical part of the comedown experience. Oh, and the sleep deprivation, milk obviously could not account for not feeling the effects from that. :\

How was your mood though? That would be a lot harder to account for if milk also prevented the post stim-comedown blues.
 
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Stim come downs are brutal and this is when you can get yourself into trouble. You take a little bit to ward off the come down, then this leave you craving 'that' high so you dose a bit more - then you don't care, then you start to come down...
 
Or, even worse, you don't ever come down, and just keep going. Depending on which stimulant exactly is your poison could sometimes be the difference between a lucky escape or great harm to ones self. :\

Regarding contionuous daily use for extended periods, from what i have gathered Methamphetamine seems to be the most ruinous of all, i really dunno about Crack or Cocaine. Speed seems to be middling; Lemmy and Johnny Cash both known for their love of speed would have doubtless lived longer otherwise, but considering their lifestyles they didn't do too badly:?

Some of the RC stims like ethylphenidate appear to be easy to stop without apparent harm, whenever you will it, but if others like pre-ban Mephedrone had been available for longer, that might have turned out be highly damaging mid-long term.
 
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mydrugbuddy said:
Or, even worse, you don't ever come down, and just keep going. Depending on which stimulant exactly is your poison could sometimes be the difference between a lucky escape or great harm to ones self. :\

Regarding contionuous daily use for extended periods, from what i have gathered Methamphetamine seems to be the most ruinous of all, i really dunno about Crack or Cocaine. Speed seems to be middling; Lemmy and Johnny Cash both known for their love of speed would have doubtless lived longer otherwise, but considering their lifestyles they didn't do too badly:?

Some of the RC stims like ethylphenidate appear to be easy to stop without apparent harm, whenever you will it, but if others like pre-ban Mephedrone had been available for longer, that might have turned out be highly damaging mid-long term.
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I would have thought MDPV was far more damaging than meth for long term use
 
This is purely speculation, but I believe that the sparkly 3fpm powder I constantly moan about, may be cut with MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane) which is a popular bulking agent for crystal meth as it exhibits similar properties when vaped. I've long suspected that the sparkly bits are adulterants as I generally find that the more sparkly it is, the weaker it is. This isn't really an issue if your ROA is oral or anal as the dose can be upped accordingly, but it significantly impacts upon the vaped experience. Can anyone confirm or deny these suspicions?
 
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