This is ridiculous I am withdrawaling from sub's and to see some one complain about coffee withdrawal wtf?
I know this was posted on the 5ft n it's now the 29th but I've just read this thread n wondering how you are getting along with the subs withdrawal? Have you jumped or tapering? I'm on 1.6 mg currently n first time Anyway how are you getting on? I have a thread where I'm documenting my journey over in Sober Living and I hope to precipitate the support with others going this, as not only will it support each but people out there searching information. Wishing you all the best with it and for your recovery. Probably one of the hardest fights you'll have but worth it.
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I'm 40. Our little generation niche has been suffocated by the baby boomers. For a bit..

As this has happened we have been forced to kinda observe what has went down.
We are the true observance of the most amazing leap in human history. This is a very big deal imho. We started in the 70's and are still rolling hard. Been waiting in the shadows.. not by choice.
Started out being forced to do drills where we were asked/forced to duck under our desks as a drill to "save" us from a nuclear attack from the USSR. I
remember clearly raising my hand and asking if this crap was real. Grade two in the US. Kinda absurd how a second grader realized the insanity. Hope to God that I had counterparts in the both the USSR and the States who raised their hand and said wtf are you kidding??
We have also witnessed the the entire cataclysmic jump forward of the world. Never before in recorded history has anything like this happened. Going to take a bit for the wisdom to catch up. But the enshadowed generation holds a bunch.
We have a huge mess to try and clean up from the baby boomers. We also hold a level of wisdom unprecedented recorded history.
We were here when it all went down.. we went from one channel and kick the can to where we find ourselves now.
The best authors and philosophers of all time will come from our enshadowed generation. The time is now as the baby boomers are finally falling off power.
Interesting post. Did you ever finish your book you were writing, NSA?
yeah. i think i was just upset at that time. It wasn't because of the caffeine. It was because I never became homeless before and it is a hard thing to think about. I'm trying to file for government assistance but it is really hard to get for some reason. I don't know why. That's why I'm a little screwed. My parents are supporting me for the time being, but I don't know when they'll decide to kick me out of the house. I made so many mistakes that it looks like they might snap at any time so I can't completely trust them. I don't have any friends. Well, not any real ones actually. No one would give a shit if this stuff actually happened to me so I need to plan in advance how I am going to mitigate the damage. My health insurance is about to expire too. I did try looking for jobs, but for some reason I am not getting hired. Sorry for the confusion I caused. I should have explained things more clearly. Thank you all for your help! Really, you are the best bluelighters! Does anyone have any advice on how to make my situation a little better?
Hiya deadendgame, Good to meet you
You don't have to apologise for expressing yourself. I don't know you as well as others do but, reading between the lines, I think I can see both points of view here If people have seen the same posts from you they are probably worried and being blunt with you as a way of helping you - if people didn't care no one would post here. It's easy to act a victim and focus on the negative - I'm guilty of this myself, very much guilty. But the only way to try and change things is try and change your outlook. OK you're not suddenly gna focus on everything positive instead of negative For instance (correct me if I'm wrong but I'm assuming that 'assistance is sickness / disability benefit?) you're automatically negative thinking will lead you to not get your benefit. The mind is such a powerful thing that if in that mind-set you won't even complete the form the right way in order to receive it (you're not gna get it anyway, right?) I can understand anxiety and how it can impact on things but this way of thinking is what is causing you problems.
What I suggest to you is this write down all these negative thoughts (like the stuff in this post) in list form. By each one write a replacement to that negative and next to that, how you can achieve this.
So for instance, looking at the 'assistance'
1. I'm not gna get this assistant, I will get this assistance, seek help filling in form, seek advice (can't say other than that as I'm not sure how your system works for applying for benefits, I'm assuming that it begins with form-filling, and apologise if I'm wrong, but hopefully you'll get the idea)
2. I'm gna be homeless life sucks, I won't be homeless, at least I'm in a first world country, will do this by seeking employment / getting assistance / loan etc.
I am not sure what your addictions are but in terms of what people are saying my answer to that is addiction is addiction. It's not about the stimulus. It's about the underlying problem. If caffeine is a problem to you that affects your life, then it's a problem that you need to solve for you. A lot of the people on here are comparing their addiction to this ladies but you're simply thinking of the physical addiction and if most of us were truly honest with ourselves it's the psychological addiction that truly controls n traps us----the mind n how the addiction distorts thinking to believe that the substance is needed beyond all else. We battle with our own minds, ourselves when we are trying to overcome addiction. So it really makes me laugh n ponder when people say stuff like this. How many times have we heard the saying "The real work starts after the withdrawals. So whether it's caffeine, suboxone, gambling, stimulants etc if it's a problem and it's affecting your life in some way then it's an issue that needs sorting.
Deadendgame, it's a GOOD thing that you've made mistakes. Why regret them? Every mistake you've made is a lesson you've learnt for future use My advice would be to list all of your regrets and write by them what have you learnt from them, how will that be useful for the future?
For me I would put something like this,
1 becoming addicted to opiates, I can now understand addiction, I can help others, I've made new friends, I'm not such a judgemental person,
I hope I haven't come across as harsh in any way I just feel that if you change your mindset towards life that things will be a lot better for you We can support you through n offer advice, like I have by suggesting writing lists, but the only one who can truly change your life and make things better is you
Good luck
Evey