Kratom The Kratom Megathread

[closeau]

I just got home and took 5g of Malay Kratom. I emptied all the capsules into a cup and did the toss and wash technique. Then I took my regular dose of oxy and my regular dose of Opana ER. Maybe I'm misusing this product and I know it's gonna skyrocket my tolerance but I had to try it. Call me a skeptic but I don't think Kratom, especially the Malay stuff I bought will control my chronic pain but I paid good money for these and I wanna use them. I go to the pain clinic in 2 weeks and my dr said she's gonna treat me more aggressively so I think I'll stick to pills but if something were ever to happen and I couldn't get my pills I'll def get some good Kratom. I just watched a video that was very informative about different strains and such and I feel more educated than I did last night when I went to the head shop to buy these things. I could have got a lot more better Kratom for same or cheaper price. I took about 25 min ago and I'm already starting to feel it. I hope I don't puke!!

 

[closeau]

Man, that combo made me so naucous last night! I took some hydroxizine and ate and felt better. I just ordered green raiu strain off website. My question is how would I measure it. I'm gonna use a teaspoon but don't know how many grams are in a freakin teaspoon. I know people make tea. I was just gonna put it in liquid and gulp it down. Since I'm on opiates already I wanted to get an energizing euphoric strain. If I got an opiate like strain my pills would just overpower it. Plus I take ephedrine for energy and want to get off that crap. So, knowing I'm on pills already, how many teaspoons would be ideal for max benefit. Does it have to be water? Can I mix with Gatorade or OJ? Thanks

 

[closeau]

Also I should name my other meds just in case anyone has heard of an interaction. I doubt it cause I've been on Kratom 3 days now and besides nausea last night I'm fine. I've done research and can't find any definitive interactions. I'm on Latuda, lithium for bipolar and warfarin for blood clots and hydroxizine and Kolonopin for anxiety. I don't really take the hydroxizine cause it puts me to sleep. Oh yeah, I mentioned Epherdrine. That's it so if anyone has any input that would be great cause searching for this online sucks. Thanks

 

[satanz_benzo]

Kratom has really helped my benzo and opiate addictions, bali kratom is a good all rounder for sedation but the best way to keep tolerance at bay (apart from simply taking a break ) is to switch types of kratom every few days. I find the only real good form is to get it powdered. I get bulk to save cash personally, resin and extract do work and resin is very good as a hot drink but tolerance goes up sooo fast it's pointless. Don't buy capsules online, buy a capsule maker online for 25 pound it's a great investment and the only way to take it in my opinion. does anyone have other good methods of consumption?

 

[satanz_benzo]

I'm not sure about lithium but I'm no expert, should be fine but don't take my word. Just have a look into it. Also try to switch types of kratom every few days to minimise tolerance. Hope that helps, I take gabapentin with mine every Friday along with promethazine, gives a nice buzz with the pain relief. Kratom changed my life minimum meds now I use it for pain, anxiety, depression, motivation and sleep aid. All depends on the strain

 

[signal2noise]

I've made it through the acute wd's of a seven-year multiple times a day kratom habit. I'd like to try kratom occasionally now, but I've tried on five different occasions strains that used to work for me that now do absolutely nothing. Anyone else experience this?

 

[closeau]

I just received my red Borneo. Haven't tried it yet and in the package was a little suprise, a small packet of Cambodian Maeng da. I took 5g of that and could actually feel it despite my opiate tolerance. Starting the 18th I'll only have 2 Dilaudid a day instead of my usual 6 so I got the Kratom for that time cause it's gonna suck. I don't get refills till 23rd so I've planned it out. Can't believe I went over this month but it's been a horrible last few weeks. I know the Kratom will help and I'm excited to try the red Borneo.

 

[closeau]

This Red Borneo kicks ass!!! Im down to one Dilaudid in the morning until Wed and was really feeling it today and the stuff took away the jitters and has an almost opiate quality to it. I knew it was gonna come in handy. I like Kratom a lot but id rather have a Dilaudid. 3 more days till i get my refill. I aint going over this time. My nasty habit has been broken and taking one every 4 hrs 6 times a day is just fine but the wd jutters and the pain are better with the Kratom!!

 

[belfort]

I've made it through the acute wd's of a seven-year multiple times a day kratom habit. I'd like to try kratom occasionally now, but I've tried on five different occasions strains that used to work for me that now do absolutely nothing. Anyone else experience this?

Umm yeah it's called tolerance..if you've binged on a drug for years then the magic is lost..it is common what you are experiencing..this is why u can't let daily use occur

 

[RDP89]

I've made it through the acute wd's of a seven-year multiple times a day kratom habit. I'd like to try kratom occasionally now, but I've tried on five different occasions strains that used to work for me that now do absolutely nothing. Anyone else experience this?

How long did you wait after you got through w.d.'s to dose? That's strange, your tolerance should be reset pretty good unless you've been using other opioids, that is.

 

[Neithman]

anyone tried the 50x extract?seems unlikely that its 50x times stronger i know but is it a stronger experience more alike to strnger opioids or just the same thing requiring smaller amounts?
i had great experiences with borneo maeng da red hornet so far,very sedating yet euphoric high which came close to real opiods

 

[Thanatos9]

Kratom (and opiates) is one of the only things that give me a full spectrum of emotions, I don't know whether my body lacks natural endorphin's.

I currently take mirtazapine 30mg (only makes me hungry) and 80mg propranolol xr a day.

 

[Doldrugs]

anyone tried the 50x extract?seems unlikely that its 50x times stronger i know but is it a stronger experience more alike to strnger opioids or just the same thing requiring smaller amounts?
i had great experiences with borneo maeng da red hornet so far,very sedating yet euphoric high which came close to real opiods

Depends on where you get it. Some extracts are stronger than plain leaf, but in my experience they're a shallower, worse high. But then, that's how I feel about opioids like oxycodone and hydrocodone, so that might be what you're looking for. The biggest issue with extracts is they skyrocket your tolerance. Since I stopped using them in favor of plain leaf I haven't changed my dose at all.

 

[Chastik]

Glad I found my way to this board. I've been on Subs for 6 years now, and I recently talked my doc into upping my dose to two 2mg strips per day.

I started Kractom (Maeng Da) last spring. I don't really buzz on it, but I get a warm, fuzzy feeling, and my severe social anxiety has disappeared....completely!

Question, I've been craving an occasional heroin experience. How does Kractom interact with H? I know I can still feel most of a heroin buzz on subs. I like to use subs as a safety net.

 

[Chastik]

I have been thoroughly experimenting with Kratom for about a year, and I find it to be a life-changing herb. I'm a business owner, and I always have to be highly cognitive, aware, social, etc. and Kratom is quite possibly the most pro-social substance I have ever consumer. Here are a few of my tips:

-Try to limit use to 2-3 x per week MAX. Tolerance with Kratom builds quickly and all you need is 24-48 hours of Abstinence to be right back to ground zero with your tolerance.

-Stay away from the extracts and enhanced blends. Stick with the crushed plain leaf Kratom. The extracts will cause withdrawal that is highly uncomfortable and unique.

-Make sure to mix, cycle, strains so you can still achieve desired effects.

-Find your ceiling dose and stick to it. I find that i require 14 grams of crushed leaf powder for full benefits.

Yes! I've always had a problem with social anxiety and irritability. Kractom has ended all that! I've been taking all kinds of SSRI anti-depressants for 25 years to address these problems, and all I got were unwanted side effects. Kractom is a miracle!

 

[Chastik]

Kratom is probably going to be made illegal in uk

Honestly, I feel like its only a matter of time before its banned from sale in the US. As soon as some idiot kid od's on it, we are all going to lose yet another right. That's why I temper my excitement, and am reluctant to try higher doses.

 

[Wants2Nod]

Glad I found my way to this board. I've been on Subs for 6 years now, and I recently talked my doc into upping my dose to two 2mg strips per day.

I started Kractom (Maeng Da) last spring. I don't really buzz on it, but I get a warm, fuzzy feeling, and my severe social anxiety has disappeared....completely!

Question, I've been craving an occasional heroin experience. How does Kractom interact with H? I know I can still feel most of a heroin buzz on subs. I like to use subs as a safety net.

Kratom is a LOT weaker of a drug then heroin, and works way differently then suboxone. Honestly, you won't even notice the kratom if you use both together.

 

[Doldrugs]

As soon as some idiot kid od's on it

I don't think that's gonna be a problem. Kratom is a really safe drug.

 

[Mycophile]

Honestly, I feel like its only a matter of time before its banned from sale in the US. As soon as some idiot kid od's on it, we are all going to lose yet another right. That's why I temper my excitement, and am reluctant to try higher doses.

It's almost impossible to OD on Kratom without mixing it with anything else and without it being an extract and even very hard to do with mixing with other things.

There's been like one death from REAL Kratom I've ever heard of and it was just some random kid with heroin problems who somehow died from mixing it with benzos and allergy medication.

I have a feeling that you know VERY little about Kratom to think it will cause overdose deaths.

I've taken over an ounce in a single DOSE while on Klonopin and have also drank a lot on it.

Plain and simple, it does not cause respiratory depression like other opioids/opiates.

That's not to say it could NEVER kill someone, and there was a study that indicated it MIGHT be dangerous for people with a certain heart condition called Long QT syndrome, but Kratom is not going to produce a lot of overdose deaths.

If it was, it would have already happened.

 

[Oakstone]

Agreed that it's basically impossible to OD on (without mixing it with a ton of other things). I have no doubt that it's going to get banned at some point, though. Once there's a trend of lots of states banning it, I'll probably buy a few kilos and hope that lasts me a while.