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insomia i do not know where to begin

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pillman1224

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sorry in advance for the long post. i have had insomnia since i was well old enough to remember things. i am eighteen now and currently prescribed .5 xanax 3x day (just stockpiling it) temazepam 30mg at night and a allergy pill. here is my problem the first sleep aid i was prescribed was clonodine .3mgs when i was 14 (i had stopped smoking pot by then so i recognized insomnia as a problem. the clonodine worked for a while then stopped. so i go to my shrink for having "panic attacks" and then a month or so goes by i am on 1mg kpin in the morning and 2mg at night for sleep. nothing not a fucking yawn. i had an elderly source for restoril(temazapam) and wanted that from my shrink. so i mention to him that i was complaining of problems sleeping to a friend and this friend gave me a restoril. next appointment 200mgs gabapentin. i say this doesnt work. 2 5mg ambien at night that worked for two days in a row then nothing. told my shrink he said you mentioned "restoril" i said "yeah that worked very well" now im on that. to the root of the problem. one 30mg tab only works when i have had a few drinks. i found this out on my trip to puerto rico. before this i would never have dreamed mixing benzos and alcohol but it worked. only problem is i hate the taste of alcohol. i drink vodka and mango juice, then take a 30mg cap which even with the alcohol is beginning to lose effects. my question the restoril only works when i take 3-4 of the capsules. I HATE the fact im taking benzos and alcohol on an almost nightly basis. sometimes if i feel like i dont wanna drink ill take 3 restoril or 6 xanax which puts me out but also raises my tolerance. i will not tell my shrink i have been drinking or taking the doses in other ways they were precribed. the fact that im an 18 y/o male and on 2 benzos is amazing most shrinks would give xanax to a stressed house wife let alone me. if this post does not make sense than please ask me a question. i haven't had any narcotics today so sorry if theres bad grammar(they help). the ultimant question is what would you if yo were me. i am not going back to pot so dont waste your time. also i want to make clear this is a serious fucking issue and im not looking for a what to say to yer doc type of result. I JUST WANT TO FUCKING GET 6-8 HOURS A NIGHT. someone told me a might have a legit reason for barbs like seconal any opinions on these for sleep.
 
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Seriously, spot on. Maybe you need to be more active. I used to think i had insomnia too, till i got a construction job and started working out 5 days a week. Now i sleep like a baby, no drugs required. Maybe you can find alternative solutions to your problems other than piling more drugs in the mix
 
to me it seems it doesnt matter there are days where i walk upstream 5 miles in the water and fish and get no sleep. then there are days where i sit on the couch and watch howard stern on youtube. the point being is there is no difference when i have an active day or not the end result is the same. i get no fucking sleep.
 
honestly, if your looking for a drug to put you to sleep ask your doctor for halcion, they are .25mg tabs and they're a hypnotic benzo. They're really really strong and will def get you some sleep.
 
take 2MG of a xanny before bed and you'll be out like a light in no time; you have your benzos now but say they dont work? how much do you take prior to sleep? a benzo will knock you out more than any of those sleeping pills you mentioned. another pill that would knock you on your ass would be seroquel; take 100-200MG an hour before bed and you'll be out like a light.

I am 31 and live very similar to what you mentioned; I could never sleep, I'd get an hour or two tops. nowadays, based on the drugs mentioned, I am OUT LIKE A LIGHT within an hour and getting 6-8 hours sleep in no time.

also, check out Etizolam; its legal and somewhat like a benzo but its something that can surly put you on your ass w/ the right dosage.

but dude, youre 18, so be careful w/ all these benzos. benzos is the last thing you want to become addicted to and its all based just on sleeping, so be careful, man. I had a seizure when coming off my benzo habit.
 
i tried 4 .1mg clonodine last night kept waking up. boston take 2mg of xanax wouldnt make me pass out it takes at least 3mg before i feel the out like a light. i dont have a credit or debit card so etizolam isnt an option right now unfortunatly but thanks for the advice. i hope the 100-200mg of seroquel thing was a joke that is a massive dose. olympicswimmer i am gonna ask about halcion next appointment, i mean im not gonna use the word halcion but ask for something that doesnt last as long. cuz i feel tired in the morning. anymore suggestions?
 
massive dose? no way, man. 100-200MG is a pretty normal dose for sleep aid; if you are using seroquel for other reasons the typical dose is 800-1000MG. even 50MG of seroquel may help you sleep.

but you are saying 3MG of xanny would knock you out? well, are you scripted that? if that is what knocks you out then why not stick w/ what works? and if its 3MG that is kinda a lot so I would def. try 2MG before you jump that extra 1MG; I know you say you need 3MG but I dont think you've tried xanny enough to know the facts just yet. youre still young, trust me. I've been using this stuff for the past 14 years.
 
ive tried 2mg xanax that does nothing. i am scripted 1.5mgs a day. also 30mgs temazapam as stated in the original post. why not stick with what works you asked? cuz benzo withdrawl is hell and even at 3mg of xanax it will take me about and hour and 20 minutes before going to sleep. i have tried enough xanax to know this because i was introduced to it at age 14 by some acquaintances. never took it more than once in a blue moon.
 
You need VIGOROUS exercise, not just walking. I'm talking about beating yourself up, seriously. This will be more helpful, and is more healthful, than taking any medication.

I'm not surprised that restoril dose isn't doing it for you. The doc can play with the dose quite a bit, until you reach a level that is helpful. There are also drugs like doxepin which are prescribed to make your primary sleeping aide work better/stronger, so talk to your doc about that as well.

In terms of herbs that might actually help, try lemon balm, jamaican dogwood, wild lettuce...these are considered to be 'narcotic strength' sleep herbs.

Give the gabapentin another whack, too, at a higher dose. It should make the benzos kick in a lot harder.
 
thanks for your input. Morph walking upstream in the water 5 miles isnt vigorous. and i cant go back on the gaba because i already told the doc after he prescribed it and this is truth. i took it fell asleep four hours later, then when i woke up it made me suicidal (thoughts). i do not have any gaba left unfortunately. i saw on rxlist the highest prescribed dose of restoril is 30mgs some people require 60. as of right now im gonna play it day by day tonite ill probably drink and take a restoril. oh i cant do too vigorous exercise as a have a fractured calcaneuos(sp?)
 
try Quetiapine. used off label for insomnia. 25-50mg (low dose). higher doses havnt got much more use unless you have bi-polar, pyscotic, etc.

Its a weird one. but virtually very little, or no chance of addiction/dependence with this drug. Very consistent over long periods of time IMO. It puts one into a very deep coma like sleep. your body not even shifting for hours and hours. Has been known to carry a bad "hangover" ie. drowsey for the morning, slow, stiff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetiapine
 
danglesmcgee said:
try Quetiapine. used off label for insomnia. 25-50mg (low dose). higher doses havnt got much more use unless you have bi-polar, pyscotic, etc.

Its a weird one. but virtually very little, or no chance of addiction/dependence with this drug. Very consistent over long periods of time IMO. It puts one into a very deep coma like sleep. your body not even shifting for hours and hours. Has been known to carry a bad "hangover" ie. drowsey for the morning, slow, stiff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetiapine
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thats the seroquel we already talked about; it kinda leaves you on your ass in the AM. I always took 100MG at bed time and would feel UGH in the AM. for the first month or so it def. did its job but if youre an early riser then it might be a bit tough getting up.
 
ill be started college this month so i cant feel "ugh" in the morning ill probably try to get like a halcion type this. any experienced users of seconal for sleep would be much appreciated. anybody use halcion i maybe tried it once but that was years ago so i dont remember the feeling is it a gradual your gonna fall asleep feeling or K.O. feeling?
 
pillman1224 said:
ill be started college this month so i cant feel "ugh" in the morning ill probably try to get like a halcion type this. any experienced users of seconal for sleep would be much appreciated. anybody use halcion i maybe tried it once but that was years ago so i dont remember the feeling is it a gradual your gonna fall asleep feeling or K.O. feeling?
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You should at least try the seroquel 25-50mg first. I have severe PTSD and if I am not at home I will not sleep not even for a minute. The only thing that put me out was the Seroquel at 50mg. If you are having this kind of problems at 18 feeling Ugh in the morning is the least of your worries. Your body will get used to it. Good luck
 
its a barbiturate; they use to to even knock people out before surgery. put me on my ass when I tried it; wasnt like a typical benzo that can knock you out but gave me a good feel; this shit just truly knocked me on my ass. no wonder they use it for surgery; even when I took it for bed I prob could have had them work on my brain and never felt a thing.

they are willing to script you that?
 
I used to mess around with Tuinals back in the day and I assure you, it'll put you on your ass. You'll be asleep, no doubt about it. I'm just not sure the med is even prescribed these days. Seconal's are around, I believe and they're a portion of the Tuinal and should also do the trick. Make no mistake, these are barbs and not benzos. It kind of sounds like you need a good barb IMO but I'm no doc. Good Luck!
 
i too suffer from insomnia and am starting to explore different medications. from doing some research, reading other forums, it seems like every medication reacts differently to everyone. for example, i myself took 30 mg of temazepam last night for the first time and i didnt feel anything, i still woke up in the middle of the night several times.

i think im going to call my doctor and tell him temazepam doesnt work for me and to just give me a prescription for 2 mg xanax. the reason why i like it is bc if i take a xanax for the purpose of going to sleep, i will fall asleep, but if i take with the mindset of just chilling, i wont get tired and i would feel great. xanax is one of the more potent benzos fyi so if 3 mg of xanax while watching tv doesnt make u a bit tired u r just too tolerant to it. prob cause u take it 3 times a day. for me i think im going to go along the lines of 3 times a week hopefully
 
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