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Is life shit without drugs?

Shambles said:
wanting to use it purely to preach the swirlsome gospel - of which I thoroughly approve...
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True, I was proselytysing for the swirlys but I had an open mind that someone might say "Speed saved me from despair".

but you need to frame your question more meaningfully to get any truly meaningful answers really.

I was hoping to draw out any passionate followers of the swirly messiah but I'm a little disappointed in the lack of devout followers. Apart from a handful of us it feels a bit like asking a class of trainee CID at Hendon about their drinking - "it's just a bit of fun and entertainment". Perhaps it's a question of age - maybe if you just start taking drugs when you're 14 out of nothing more than boredom you have a different outlook on them to someone who went to them as medicine.
 
Drugs generally replace what you're lacking/missing in your own life and only make way to a host of other problems. People should always be looking to improve their own lives and negate their desire for drugs, rather than succumb to them.

Saying that, there is always a time and place for fuckery in a rich and diverse lifestyle.
 
The pains of life are numbed by drugs. Therefore it is easier. To encompass the whole of life 'is life shit without drugs?' well that depends on the person, the life and the ability to deal with the root problems causing 'excessive' drug use. Drugs mask symptoms they don't heal.

This is why I'm a strong believer in counselling and CBT, self help books over drugs, illegal or prescribed by a doctor for most mental health conditions.

This is also why I'm a hypocrite.
 
I've never really gone down the route of incessantly taking drugs to numb despair tho tangerine - I find once a month or once a fortnight use of a swirly will see you through.
 
Raasyvibe said:
Drugs generally replace what you're lacking/missing in your own life and only make way to a host of other problems. People should always be looking to improve their own lives and negate their desire for drugs, rather than succumb to them.
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I don't take drugs to 'get fucked' (except in the most literal sense and I can do that without drugs anyway) and I strongly disagree with the majority of the sentiment expressed in the last two posts (last two before Izzy posted).

Just fucking saying like. Drugs have NEVER caused me problems and I'm pretty sure I'm one of the biggest druggies on this board of all time.
 
I did say excessive which is open to interpretation. I believe it's perfectly natural for animals, especially mammals to take drugs.

I'm coming at this as someone who has had a month or two self imposed break from all drugs and drink in the last 8 or 10 years...

And most years on at least one thing daily.

Clearly there are those who take drugs to excess or for different reasons. I don't think life would be shit without drugs. Just a lot harder. For me...
 
To get philosophical, 'Life' is too big a category to be 'shit' - how can you ever hold enough of it in your mind to truly make a judgement, except through the tiny distorting lens of your current mindset (or some mega fractal compression). A 'better' question may be is life better with drugs? My 'life' is better with them (it seems to me in my current mindset) - though i'm lucky to never have had a really destructive habit (mainly constructive or swirlsome)
 
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All the best feelings I've ever felt have been on swirlys tho Vurtual - I couldn't have dreamed feelings like that existed otherwise. Life without swirlys doesn't include those feelings - so on balance it's a bit shit :)
 
That's a very uneven balance - the entire world and all its possibilities on one side and a few hundred micrograms on the other ;).

The psychedelic only manifest the mind, which only reflects the life - if the psychedelic experience is good, then it must mean so is the life/mind, because that's what it was made out of
 
I feel that life is only shitty without drugs after you have experienced life with drugs. It also depends a lot on ethnic background, the society you live in, and what type environment you grow up in. I have known many people who live their lives without ever having touched a drug completely content. The natural feelings of joy you experience during childhood; that carefree approach to life. That is what true happiness is I think.

For me drugs enhance life and are a major part of who I am, for better or for worse. For me, yes, life is shit without drugs. But I think that's a rather harsh way of putting it. Drugs make me feel more connected with life and my experience.
 
I would say yes and no. What people typically class as drugs, nah. I've not missed them at all. Buuuutttttt.......... To me, alcohol is a drug and I do enjoy a drink. Yeah, I'd say if you take that and tobacco away from me I'd be pretty pissy!
 
But only because you are used to having those things. If you had never been introduced in the first place your mind would not have that craving to go off of. Then again even indigenous cultures use drugs. Humans have been using them for since ever.

They are not a necessity until they are discovered.
 
Cosmic, If you've never had something how could you miss it?

People find happiness in all sorts. If you've never been introduced to it I'm sure you'd still be quite happy. It's only when those things that made you happy are taken away that you notice.

IMO.
 
Right that is my opinion as well lol. Maybe I wasn't being clear enough. It is much harder to find contentment in life after a period of using drugs, sometimes just from even one time of using them. It is all about what we are exposed to.

Certain people after experiencing the beauty of drugs struggle to let go and come back to earth. Drugs are a part of life and can be as big or as small as you want them to be.

Generally speaking imo if you truly believe life is shit without drugs, then you live a sad existence. And before anyone jumps my shit, I am one of those unfortunates. That does not mean I am going to give up hope that one day I can be sober and content.
 
Cosmic, It depends on how long you've stopped taking them. I remember yonks ago longing for a substance or two that happened to be my faves. I did miss them but now I honestly never think of them. They, nor anything else cross my mind.

Give it time mate <3
 
Cosmic Giraffe said:
Generally speaking imo if you truly believe life is shit without drugs, then you live a sad existence. And before anyone jumps my shit
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Let me just jump your shit for a mo giraffe, it takes all sorts to make a world. Perhaps the people best suited to living a sober life are the trainee CID types. People who have no depth in any sense and simply live on the surface. If you feel things a little deeper perhaps the occasional use of a swirly can enhance your life.
 
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