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Opioids Parafluorobutyrfentanyl (PFBF)

Bump . Anyone else want to post there experience with PFBF ? How would you compare it to BF ? Never tried BF ,but I have 5 grams coming .
 
crunkazcanbe said:
Man I love this stuff . Instead of taking 180mg Oxy aka 6 30mg roxies I take 3 90mg , and top it off with a couple squirts of this stuff , and I am in true opiate heaven . I nodded so hard last night I woke up with drool all over me in my chair with my foot in my bowl of cereal . This saves me from eating all my roxies up every month .
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Fentanyl analogues are notorious for absolutely recking tolerance, so be careful or you are going to find yourself much deeper into a habit much quicker then you would with just oxy. Eventually the oxy will become useless if you keep dosing the fent analogue like this.
 
pbuilder said:
Fentanyl analogues are notorious for absolutely recking tolerance, so be careful or you are going to find yourself much deeper into a habit much quicker then you would with just oxy. Eventually the oxy will become useless if you keep dosing the fent analogue like this.
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Do you know how PFBF compares to BF ? I have quit taking PFBF now for a couple days mainly ;because I ran out . My tolerance is now higher on Oxycodone ,but taking 180mg of Oxy still keeps me from getting dope sick . Just don't feel the Oxy anymore .
 
crunkazcanbe said:
Do you know how PFBF compares to BF ? I have quit taking PFBF now for a couple days mainly ;because I ran out . My tolerance is now higher on Oxycodone ,but taking 180mg of Oxy still keeps me from getting dope sick . Just don't feel the Oxy anymore .
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I personally only have experience with actual fentanyl, but basically any fentanyl analogue is the same. Super short high, super fast tolerance build. When you are dosing 20x a day, it's kind of expected though. For your tolerance to lower again, you are going to have to try to get by on the bare minimum of oxy you can for the next week. (That's means no getting high, infact probably should be low enough your in minor withdrawal).
 
pbuilder said:
I personally only have experience with actual fentanyl, but basically any fentanyl analogue is the same. Super short high, super fast tolerance build. When you are dosing 20x a day, it's kind of expected though. For your tolerance to lower again, you are going to have to try to get by on the bare minimum of oxy you can for the next week. (That's means no getting high, infact probably should be low enough your in minor withdrawal).
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Very true. Fentanyl Citrate is just ridiculous for skyrocketing one's tolerance when used frequently, and given the desperately short duration, it is impossible not to redose consistently. Within a few months I went from nodding off 700ug sublingually to barely getting high off 13mg vapourised!

The fact that this is sold in vendor-chosen units worries me. There could be any amount in that spray bottle, and a simple incorrectly calibrated scale could result in serious risks to the end user. If Fentanyl analogues are to be made widely available, surely it is safer to supply pure powder and allow the user to measure their own dosage, and increments thereof?

Do we have a figure for relative potency, preferably from a reliable source?
 
SproutOnSmack said:
Very true. Fentanyl Citrate is just ridiculous for skyrocketing one's tolerance when used frequently, and given the desperately short duration, it is impossible not to redose consistently. Within a few months I went from nodding off 700ug sublingually to barely getting high off 13mg vapourised!

The fact that this is sold in vendor-chosen units worries me. There could be any amount in that spray bottle, and a simple incorrectly calibrated scale could result in serious risks to the end user. If Fentanyl analogues are to be made widely available, surely it is safer to supply pure powder and allow the user to measure their own dosage, and increments thereof?

Do we have a figure for relative potency, preferably from a reliable source?
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Yes there is a very reliable source selling it as a pre measured nose spray with 0.6mg in every squirt . I have gone threw 12 bottles ,and as far as I can tell its pretty accurate in the dosing . I think the pure powder form is much more dangerous ;because most don't have a $500 scale to do accurate measurements including me .
 
I'm of the ilk that believes if you can't handle a compound, you probably shouldn't be taking it.

A million batches could be accurately dosed, that doesn't remove the possibility of someone getting greedy, careless or hastily weighing and diluting - all it takes is one slip-up.
There could actually be 0.2ug in each actuation from one vendor, if another vendor adds the purported 0.6ug, that could be highly dangerous.

I'd rather die because I fucked up, not because some backalley Chemist in Shanghai made a mistake.
 
SproutOnSmack said:
I'm of the ilk that believes if you can't handle a compound, you probably shouldn't be taking it.

A million batches could be accurately dosed, that doesn't remove the possibility of someone getting greedy, careless or hastily weighing and diluting - all it takes is one slip-up.
There could actually be 0.2ug in each actuation from one vendor, if another vendor adds the purported 0.6ug, that could be highly dangerous.

I'd rather die because I fucked up, not because some backalley Chemist in Shanghai made a mistake.
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Well TBH I think I deserve this chem even though I don't have the money for a $500 scale does not mean I don't . I am a chronic pain patient that has been threw cancer so . I will admit I love the high ;because it frees me . I also agree with you on if you was to die you would rather be the one to make the mistake ,but me not being able to buy a $500 scale I just pray for the good . Also think about it even if it was in pure powder form people with a $500 scale and without are still going to be buying it ,and that would cause more deaths ;because if it wasn't pre measured everyone that would have bought it pre measured would just buy the pure powder without a scale ,and have a higher rate of people Oding. BTW this is sold out of Sweden not china . Not that that makes a difference . ;)
 
Can Parafluorobutyrfentanyl still be purchased as a legal Research Chemical online?
 
Hmmm I just read the OP and not the topic, but if it is in fact a fentanyl derivative then wouldn't it be illegal under the Drug Analog Act?
 
crunkazcanbe said:
Well at least you have OTC Codeine . ;) My sister lives in the UK . Moved there to a boyfriend got married ,and has never came back . Last night I did 4 squirts per nostril ,and actually puked . Something I have not done since I first started opiates . Same here with the Oxycodone . I take 180mg IR every 3 hours to stay out of WD . I don't get anything from it anymore other then the WD being gone . This stuff works nice though ,and actually gets me high . Just wished it lasted longer . It last a little over a hour for me with another nice hour of a afterglow . BTW my tolarance is actually a bit higher then 540mg Oxycodone a day ;because I sometimes add in a couple 8 mg dilaudid snorted . I get 90 Xanax , 90 8mg hydromorphone , 240 30mg Oxycodone IR a month . (prescribed by a doctor)

I tend to run out of my meds very quick every month, and thats where this stuff comes into ,and its why I got it . If you try hard enough with PFBF you will catch a nod . Believe me .
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Unfortunately, OTC codeine is a joke. Here in Canada, it's ALWAYS found with 15 mg caffeine and 300 mg APAP per pill (although you can get ones with an antihistamine instead of caffeine). With any kind of tolerance whatsoever, these are all but useless. I have prepared CWE's on countless occasions while feeling like shit in withdrawal, and it basically does nothing to help. Not only is it just too weak, the caffeine present in the amount you need to take to get a good dose of codeine pretty much kills whatever small effect you might get from it. By far the best OTC method of relieving w/d is high dose loperamide (IMODIUM) as it takes away basically all physical symptoms incuding sweating and chills - although you do have to take an awful lot. If you want to actually get high OTC then poppy seed tea is the best and easiest thing out there. Keep in mind it will be pretty weak unles you can find unwashed seeds (I think Australia has an abundance of them).At the very least, a good amount of seed tea should relieve withdrawal, but you certainly need to be careful since every batch can be different.
 
Bomb319 said:
Hmmm I just read the OP and not the topic, but if it is in fact a fentanyl derivative then wouldn't it be illegal under the Drug Analog Act?
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As I mentioned earlier - it's definitely illegal in the UK, and also Canada. I do not know whether this also applies to the US, but it isn't mentioned as illegal in the place I read it. It's legal in Sweden.

Also, I found poppy pod tea superior to seed tea by a long way, and it is very good for withdrawals. However, it's definitely way more addictive than I imagined! It's a little more of a pain the arse to make, having to crush up the dried pods, but I just found it so much better.

To clear a few things up - it definitely doesn't "block" the effects of other opioids & opiates, as I've successfully combined it with Heroin. I have no doubts that the reason Oxycodone will not be working when taking it at pre-PFBF doses is down to the rapid increase in tolerance it causes - it pretty much blew my H tolerance out of the water. As someone mentioned, it behaves similarly to Fentanyl this way, particularly because it's likely that you'll be repeatedly redosing (possibly 10+ times in a day) so it's unsurprising that tolerance shoots up.

One more thing - the idea that selling this in pure powder form would be in some way safer than distributing it in a pre-dosed liquid just seems completely insane to me. It would be nigh on impossible for the average user to weigh out sub-milligram doses. Obviously you could prepare a solution yourself, but vendors will be making larger batches at once, which surely makes it more likely to be a homogeneous solution. It would also be in their best interests to ensure it's evenly distributed - having hotspots and killing people off would reduce the size of their customer base! I just think that selling it as a powder would increase the likelihood of people behaving irresponsibly with it - attempting to eyeball it, or cutting stuff with it for example.
 
Where can I find it? I heard it's legal and if I can get this it's better than what I'm getting now. ..plz help.
 
How can I get a bottle?

The only fentanyl I've had before have been the gel patches that you couldn't abuse and they were only low dosed so I didn't get much from them....I got two of them for free when buying some diazepam.

I have quite a big tolerance for Opi's now. I take around 180-300mg of Oxy a day. Call it 220mg on average. That doesn't do much for me either other than slight mood lift. I also take 60mg methadone daily.

The only way I can actuay feel opiates any more is if I IV them which I am trying to cut down my use on and have done successfully to around 1-2 a week.

Will I feel anything from this? If so how much would you reccomend starting with? Or would it be a waste with my tolerance?

Would just be really great to find something that will give me an opiate buzz without having to turn to the needle and heroin. Even a .3 shot of good gear only gives me a brief 30 second rush then that's it. Maybe sometimes I'll catch a lil nod, but it's rare. So yeah, would be nice to get an opiate high without putting holes in myself.[/QUOTE]
 
First: No sourcing dude ;)

sbake89 said:
The only way I can actuay feel opiates any more is if I IV them which I am trying to cut down my use on and have done successfully to around 1-2 a week.
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2. Do you think it would be a good idea to order an even more potent fentanyl analogue that skyrockets your tolerance then?
 
Guyana: yes, if you can guarantee each spray is .1ml

I gotta echo zerwas when I say, if your tolerance is already a joke, this isn't gonna help you. It's pretty compulsive, and it's short acting, so it's ok for recreation, but using it for actual pain relief would be fucking madness. I could nod on probably 50mg H before, but after combining it with PFBF I need at least a point.

It's very reminiscent of fentanyl in that it's quite empty. Just noddy as fuck. No buzzy happy shit as such, mainly just drooping and trying to remember to breathe.

Obviously nobody here is going to help anyone find it so... Sourcing questions can just stop now -.-
 
I just read through the thread about horrible side effects with MT45, and it got me worried about PFBF. Has anyone experienced any negative side effects from prolonged use, aside from the usual opioid withdrawal symptoms?
 
Zerwas said:
First: No sourcing dude ;)



2. Do you think it would be a good idea to order an even more potent fentanyl analogue that skyrockets your tolerance then?
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I just wanna be able to feel an opiate without having to put holes in myself

Will one bottle putbit up so much?
 
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