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Been enjoying krAtom for years. Love it. JuSt sampled some new MD and White Vienom
Capping is way to go.k is horrible
Capping is way to go.k is horrible
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oxygirlinct
Bluelighter
I'm so sorry, I know this is repetitive and try as I might (I've read through quiiiiiiite a few of these threads) I just want to know....
In your opinion, what is the strongest, most opiate-like strain?
I've tried extract and powder. I liked the extract because less is needed, do you find this to be the case?
Ultra Enhanced Indo mixed with Indo Black (both extracts) was a nice combo. Gold Standard Extract didn't cause me to feel any effects.
I have left 14 g of :
Green Malaysian Powder
Red Vein Sumatra
Red MDT
I'm looking to buy more but don't want to waste my money. I'm leaning towards extract but of course the one I think I liked most is out of stock...
Does the strain really make THAT much of a difference? I've done some research but the results are somewhat inconsistent.
Thank you guys, sorry if this is repetitive (again)
In your opinion, what is the strongest, most opiate-like strain?
I've tried extract and powder. I liked the extract because less is needed, do you find this to be the case?
Ultra Enhanced Indo mixed with Indo Black (both extracts) was a nice combo. Gold Standard Extract didn't cause me to feel any effects.
I have left 14 g of :
Green Malaysian Powder
Red Vein Sumatra
Red MDT
I'm looking to buy more but don't want to waste my money. I'm leaning towards extract but of course the one I think I liked most is out of stock...
Does the strain really make THAT much of a difference? I've done some research but the results are somewhat inconsistent.
Thank you guys, sorry if this is repetitive (again)
Like you will have read the red veins are more sedating. I dont know about opiate like cos i havent experience with opaites but red veins give the wamr fuzzies the most so i presume that is the opiate feeling. What ive found is you have to expeiriemnt yourself alot regardless of what advice you get. I too was trying to find the perfect answer on the net but I had to try lots of different strains to see whats what.
Ive only been taking it a few months and already I cant get much effect out of it from 3.5 grams and if i take more i just get nauseas and the buzz just becomes unpleasant and fuzzy. Im barely getting any effect from reds now and also seem to be struggling with other strains too. I tried 60% white vein borneo today and the rest red. The stimulaiton from white was marked but more of white i felt would have been uncomfrotable but again the total dose of white and red petered out to barely noticeable. I had a good effect from 3.5 of thai the other day.
Ive been taking it 1 day on 2 days off testing to see if I can get away with that. Though I have been getting some aches in my neck Im not sure if its from kratom or not. Kratom is pretty shit for me in terms of a steady drug to go to. The returns have diminished extremely quickly- after only a couple months of use (baear in mind i only did the 2 off one on this past week or so not all that time, i was doing 4 days off before). I am on the lookout for some alternative now but seems there isnt anything out ther to compete in terms of safety.
Im not happy with the question mark on kava and liver issues since id want to take it regularly like kratom. Some regular user on the kava lounge still says that he had raised liver stuff from when he took a test (ofc anecdotal reports dont mean much but still they are worth something). Also kava is such a 'meh' effect that last so little the risk of total liver failure seem to greatly outweight the paultry reward.
The warm and fuzzy buzz of kratom has gone for me and now I only get this muddy fuzzy buzz.
Ive only been taking it a few months and already I cant get much effect out of it from 3.5 grams and if i take more i just get nauseas and the buzz just becomes unpleasant and fuzzy. Im barely getting any effect from reds now and also seem to be struggling with other strains too. I tried 60% white vein borneo today and the rest red. The stimulaiton from white was marked but more of white i felt would have been uncomfrotable but again the total dose of white and red petered out to barely noticeable. I had a good effect from 3.5 of thai the other day.
Ive been taking it 1 day on 2 days off testing to see if I can get away with that. Though I have been getting some aches in my neck Im not sure if its from kratom or not. Kratom is pretty shit for me in terms of a steady drug to go to. The returns have diminished extremely quickly- after only a couple months of use (baear in mind i only did the 2 off one on this past week or so not all that time, i was doing 4 days off before). I am on the lookout for some alternative now but seems there isnt anything out ther to compete in terms of safety.
Im not happy with the question mark on kava and liver issues since id want to take it regularly like kratom. Some regular user on the kava lounge still says that he had raised liver stuff from when he took a test (ofc anecdotal reports dont mean much but still they are worth something). Also kava is such a 'meh' effect that last so little the risk of total liver failure seem to greatly outweight the paultry reward.
The warm and fuzzy buzz of kratom has gone for me and now I only get this muddy fuzzy buzz.
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pinpoint
Bluelighter
I'm the same way lately. Kratom has become a maintenance drug for me almost like Suboxone was at one point in my life. Once in a blue moon it will hit me right, but most of the time it just makes me normal with subtle undercurrents of warmth. I have found that red strains do not cause the negative side effects that I tend to get with greens (dizziness, nystagmus) or whites (nausea, headaches). Once every few months I'll do some FST/UEI/OEB and it'll slam me hard with euphoria that I got when I first did plain leaf. For this reason I've been switching between Kratom & tianpetine with extremely occasional diacetylmorphine thrown in for good measure.
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I don't find a great body difference among the various strains I've tried, just that some vendors seem to have higher quality leaf than others. I've never done the extract, kind of afraid of it actually because I think it would slam my already high tolerance to the mat in no time (have a history with Oxy). I'd recommend you try some red vein borneo, powder, not extract, and start with maybe 4-5 grams. I also like green bali, particularly if you can get a premium blend, triple-sifted and the like (another quite potent strain is Sunda, which isn't available from every vendor so you'll have to search). If you can, wait a week or two to do that, and try it on an empty stomach. There are lots of stories about potentiators, from white grapefruit through to various exotic herbs. I've tried a few - cat's claw, tumeric, grapefruit - and they don't seem to do much. But that's maybe just me.
Good luck!
I don't find a great body difference among the various strains I've tried, just that some vendors seem to have higher quality leaf than others. I've never done the extract, kind of afraid of it actually because I think it would slam my already high tolerance to the mat in no time (have a history with Oxy). I'd recommend you try some red vein borneo, powder, not extract, and start with maybe 4-5 grams. I also like green bali, particularly if you can get a premium blend, triple-sifted and the like (another quite potent strain is Sunda, which isn't available from every vendor so you'll have to search). If you can, wait a week or two to do that, and try it on an empty stomach. There are lots of stories about potentiators, from white grapefruit through to various exotic herbs. I've tried a few - cat's claw, tumeric, grapefruit - and they don't seem to do much. But that's maybe just me.
Good luck!
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DogLover123757
Bluelighter
I think the UEI is the most "opiate like". Or maybe the Oxindole Enhanced Bali. Kratom affects everyone a little differently so you just need to experiment and find what works well for you. Just be careful with the extracts, your tolerance will go sky high before you even know it. I am currently in that spot, have a difficult time pretty soon coming up. I have done many different kinds if you are curios we can share info back and forth if you want. Have fun!
Just took 1/4 teaspoon of UEI.
It's the first time I've ever done extracts so I'm interested to see how it goes.
I've done plain leaf a bunch of times, mostly Super Green Malay and Bali, but never an extract.
I couldn't use my new scale cause the weights I need to calibrate it haven't arrived yet so I just went with 1/4 teaspoon since people said thats usually about 500mg.
I'm curious to see if it will be more stimulating or sedating.
I'm both guessing and hoping it will be more sedating because usually if I take plain leaf this late I can't sleep at night.
At the same time I'm hoping it doesn't knock me out too much cause I want to enjoy it.
I used SUCH a small amount it's hard to believe it will work but if everyone says that's all I need then I guess it should.
Not sure how long it will take to kick in but plain leaf usually takes like 30-40 mins for me on average.
It's the first time I've ever done extracts so I'm interested to see how it goes.
I've done plain leaf a bunch of times, mostly Super Green Malay and Bali, but never an extract.
I couldn't use my new scale cause the weights I need to calibrate it haven't arrived yet so I just went with 1/4 teaspoon since people said thats usually about 500mg.
I'm curious to see if it will be more stimulating or sedating.
I'm both guessing and hoping it will be more sedating because usually if I take plain leaf this late I can't sleep at night.
At the same time I'm hoping it doesn't knock me out too much cause I want to enjoy it.
I used SUCH a small amount it's hard to believe it will work but if everyone says that's all I need then I guess it should.
Not sure how long it will take to kick in but plain leaf usually takes like 30-40 mins for me on average.
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Fire&Water
Pumpkin King
Let us know how it goes...I hate the "heart in the throat" stimulation, even the red stains bring on.
I'm not sure what you mean by "heart in throat stimulation".
I like the stimulation usually.
Well I waited 45 mins after taking the 1/4 tsp and didn't feel much so I just took another 1/4.
I guess it's hard to know how much is enough since I can't use my scale yet and I have never taken extracts before but I'm taking it slowly so I don't take too much.
CfZrx
Bluelighter
For me 1 teaspoon is perfect. Not too little, not jittery, but I have a high tolerance. I have seen people look like hell from this dose if they have no tolerance. Anybody know the morphine equivalency of a teaspoon of good kratom?
It's been 20 mins since the last 1/4...so it's 1/2 right now...still nothing but I have no tolerance.
How much more should I take??
Time for another 1/4 I guess??
Odd cause people thought 1/4 would be enough.
Oh well, I'll take another 1/4 I guess...
How much more should I take??
Time for another 1/4 I guess??
Odd cause people thought 1/4 would be enough.
Oh well, I'll take another 1/4 I guess...
I took another 1/4 making it 3/4s of a tsp now so I'll wait a bit.
I feel A LITTLE bit, but probably only what I'd feel from less than half of a good dose for me of plain leaf.
My guess is that just not being able to weigh it out makes it hard to know but still it seems like it's not quite as strong as some have said...
Probably just the weight thing though really.
I feel A LITTLE bit, but probably only what I'd feel from less than half of a good dose for me of plain leaf.
My guess is that just not being able to weigh it out makes it hard to know but still it seems like it's not quite as strong as some have said...
Probably just the weight thing though really.
is taking kratom capsules with coffee since its hot a good idea or does kratom not go well with coffee? i have some white vein phuket green vein Indonesian some extract enhanced red Borneo and maeng da red vein horned leaf maeng da and some thai plantain maeng da i got my own capsule machine iam new to kratom and just got all this stuff today thanks let me know
I feel like Kratom goes great with coffee and many people agree.
^^^
Some UEI extract.
Sorry I couldn't understand what veins you took because you didn't put spaces between them lol.
I don't know whether or not coffee helps the kratom to dissolve better, I just think the two substances produce a nice effect when combined.
Some UEI extract.
Sorry I couldn't understand what veins you took because you didn't put spaces between them lol.
I don't know whether or not coffee helps the kratom to dissolve better, I just think the two substances produce a nice effect when combined.
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