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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 16 - Sweet 16 mind-control machine

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Seriously.. DMT on top of MXE.. why be a king when you can be a god? Haha. I have not felt this good in aeons. The world is an oyster and I am the headmaster of the sushi bar.
 
Will never forget my first DMT/MXE combo....winter solstice 2012. Vaporized the DMT and MXE simultaneously on top of some herb. In my mind the prophecy came true ;P I've yet to try an oral dose (ayahuasca/pharmahuasca).
 
MXE and weed is one ballpark, but I appear to have opened up a whole new kettle of ballparks with a vaporiser! This is clean and delicious and I am one content motherhumper!
 
I had .5g of MXE over a weekend once and it was complete bliss! I also found I smoked a TON of weed on it and it didn't do anything like smoking weed on lsd.The feeling of mxe was like being inside a bubble of awesomeness, and once I'd start to fall out of the bubble I would redose another small line.
 
It's actually not more intense I find, it is shorter though... it almost feels like a different drug to me when I smoke/vape it. It reminds me of a really chilled, non-sketchy JWH high. I can vape the same amount I'd take orally and have a less intense experience, but it can be good to top up an oral dose with. One time I managed to get really, really high on it, where I could barely walk, but I had taken like 40mg orally through the night and drank alcohol and smoked like 60 more mg in several doses separated by short periods of time. If I had taken that much orally it would have been more effective. But vaping it is pretty euphoric and instant.
 
Weird. I can't seem to get any CEVs from MXE. I always see people reporting amazing landscapes and really vivid visuals.

I've tried up to 130mg sublingually (30mg + 100mg 3 hours later) and never got anything interesting.

But I get VERY dissociated, totally unable to move, feeling like I'm inside a closed space, with my body moving in random directions. The only CEVs are some dark patterns floating all around me. I'm not sure, but from what I've heard this sounds like a "hole" to me.

Could it be just a weak batch or this is normal? I never used any dissociatives before and I've been experimenting with MXE for the past week, so I don't think it's tolerance.
 
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I've gotten a noticeable psychedelic mindfuck from MXE a few of the times I did it, but never saw any visuals of any kind. Most of the time it just made me numb, dizzy, and horribly uncoordinated. It was like alcohol without the "dumbing down" effect and less euphoria.
 
MXE rarely gives me much in terms of CEVs... It only seems to happen if I redose multiple times and combine it with weed, but even then it doesn't always happen. Mixing in a small amount of DXM (100mg) or so with MXE does produce pretty cool CEVs and a mental body high.
 
@crmt28 - I always had the same experience as you, until recently. All the MXE I had tried never gave me any visuals. I will note that some friends experienced CEVs off a batch that I did not get that effect from, but they dosed much higher than me.

Recently I tried some that gave an incredibly psychedelic feeling, it was very unexpected. Never before had I felt like I was tripping like this off MXE. It snuck up on me while I was thinking I was just having a chill dissociated high, I stood up and walked around my apartment and realized I was having intense open eye visual distortions and just generally tripping very hard. I felt like I'd eaten an eighth of mushrooms on top of the MXE. This lasted a couple hours before I started to come down a bit. I had no idea that MXE could even be like this! Every batch I tried before, if I took a lot, I would just get the kind of hole you described above - dark patterns and feelings of my body twisting around, while being mostly immobilized. I have no explanation for why some MXE is so damn trippy but it seems to just vary a lot.
 
The very first time I did MXE, I had serious (and unique) open eye visuals. Everything looked different, just like a classic psychedelic, but in a totally new way. It was pretty striking. That was the first time I did MXE, and it was the last time I got any open-eye visuals from it.
 
I think MXE has the power to make you see in the dark. Like vision nocturne at some point.
 
It can heighten the senses sometimes to the point of hearing the softest sounds clearly and the faintest light so I can understand the 'night vision' potential. As far as CEV/OEVs the most noticeable thing I get is a sort of flickering of light in my vision most noticeable in the dark, and that can cause some cool CEVs like tunneling and abstract bilaterally symmetric visuals if focused properly. The phosphenes can also glitch out in the dark creating really cool dark visuals. In the hole CEVs can become a whole other beast, like complete dreamlike visions, but my high tolerance recently has kept me from experiencing that except at short peaks.
I agree also that vaping feels like a different drug in a lot of ways. A little more mentally addictive too because of the rapid onset, almost as addictive as IM/IV (but talk about feeling like a different drug, those ROAs can be very different, and with high tolerance the only way to still be able to touch holes. On my hardest binges on the 3rd day or so I would switch ROAs and start to do IM/IV shots every few hours and still hole briefly each time, and I can keep that up for a couple days before the negative effects start to impede too much). It is a neat buzz on its own at 25-50mg vaped, and also an interesting adjunct to an oral dose. On the downside it feels a little more toxic when vaped because I sometimes get a bit of a headache at the comedown...which can be fixed with...more MXE haha (but not vaped). Such is the cycle of MXE addiction.
 
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So recently I have been thinking that maybe the 'dark' and 'light' elements I describe of the experience may correlate respectively to the R and S isomers. I recently found out that the most 'light' batch I know of is S-MXE. This seems to be more scientifically plausible than the polymorph theory which many people dispute.
 
So I assume most of you guys who've experimented heavily with this also have experience with K; and I have to ask which you prefer? I never got the chance to try MXE when vendors here had it (and it was 'legal'), incidentally I've also somehow never tried K and have been leaning towards doing so. I have ways to acquire both, and I suppose the researcher in me should acquire both, but if you guys had the option which would you prefer?

I've only experience with DXM in the long long ago, maybe 3rd plateau type stuff. Don't know exactly what to expect from a hole per say, cant expect anything, but from what Ive read and know about them I should be able to weather them fairly when the time comes, drawing from my psychedelic and other drug experiences. I've come to gather both can be pretty addictive, with mxe seemingly moreso (although I have questions about whether cost/availability was/is one of the major factors in people growing so attached to mxe). I guess I'm not sure exactly what I'm saying as every drug is subjectively different, maybe, perhaps, which would be more "beginner friendly"?
 
I don't know about the isomers man. I had been thinking that was the situation until recently. However, word on the interwebz is that separating MXE isomers is extremely difficult and time consuming, and it's not something that is happening at MXE labs currently. Not claiming to be 100% about this information, but it's what I heard from what I consider to be a trustworthy source with no reason to lie to me about it. How are you sure that what you have is S isomer? I know there's a vendor who claims to stock that, but I don't believe it just because they said so. It seems like a gimmick to me, just sayin'.

Regarding preference of k vs mxe, I think it depends what you're looking for. I love the stimulation that MXE gives me. I've only done k a couple times but it was much more sedating. Made me want to be quiet and just chill out, whereas mxe is a bit of a wildcard. Sometimes I get completely serene and other times I'm bursting with energy. I don't really care for holing too much although they can feel fantastic; but my understanding is that it's much easier to hole on k than mxe. I have holed on MXE before but it's kind of hit or miss. Those holes snuck up on me and had their way with me.
 
Yeah, the vendor is claiming it to be S-MXE, but I haven't seen independently verified data. It is possible that it may not be entirely S, but rather a ratio that is greater S than R which would still produce a noticeable quality difference. I am aware that most labs don't know a cost-effective way to isolate the isomers, but that doesn't mean no one has cracked the code. This particular vendor or source may have figured out a way.
As for preference, yes, lower cost and greater availability/legality is a factor. Additionally the speculation/perception that the therapeutic index of MXE may be higher than K certainly doesn't hurt. In the end, I prefer MXE's effects and longer duration/greater potency over K regardless of the other factors. I dont seek out K, but in the rare occasion that it finds me, I enjoy it for the contrast.
 
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