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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 16 - Sweet 16 mind-control machine

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Ordered 0.5g of MXE and used it in 4 nights. Got a nice hole first day but yeah, I think my magical days with methoxetamine are over and its time to open a new chapter.

Gotta say tho, it's really amazing how little after effects there is. I feel fine and to be honest, I'm in good spirits.
 
I've abstained from large doses for quite a while (several months to a year). During the last year my max dose was 20mg, in 3 seperate doses. (on a trilogy night at the movies, 6-7mg at the beginning of each film)

Today I took 20mg orally at once, at home. Wonderful 2hour yoga session. Less is more, also with this compound, IMO.

Regarding the kidney pains: I've never felt them but I do notice an elevated number of toilet visits under the influence.

Regardless, last few months I did some detox. Not really MXE-related, but in general. I thought about sharing because of Bluubery's post.

60minutes before breakfast: glass of tepid water with a dash of honey and juice from half a lemon.

30minutes before breakfast:
methyl-sulfonyl-methane + chorella tablets + phytoplankton caps. Start low dosages (1gram of each) and build up every week.

breakfast:
Choline supplementation, barley grass, proteine powder (rice, hemp, whey, pea ; variation is key) and Noopept.

Also you could use Bupleurum Complex.
On the bottle it says after lunch and dinner and when waking up, but my chiropractor told me after every meal and when waking up at night. And use 2 250ml bottles after one another.

Really did wonders for my internal organs, I can literally feel it. (I was having liver-issues, not related to psychoactives but due to fatty/sugary foods)
 
Well my kidneys are still hurting really fucking bad. It's been maybe like 18 hours since my last dose, I got a full night of sleep and spent all day napping and drinking electrolyte water and had a smoothie and some soup, I even soaked in epsom salts for a while.. I'm kinda scared and not sure when I should be seeking medical attention. Anyone care to chime in? I really can't afford to go the ER unless something needs to be done right away and I don't want to deal with any legal problems it might present.. I'm just hurting really bad and not sure what the fuck to do.
 
I don't see how there would be legal problems from going to the ER and saying that your kidneys are hurting from drug use...
 
That's probably true, I was kind of panicking when I wrote that. It almost feels like it's chilling out, I don't know. Hopefully tomorrow morning I will be better. Just trying to take it easy and restore my body best as I can right now. Still fucking hurts bad though.
 
yeah, I mean as long as you don't go in and cause a scene and get searched and are dumb enough to have drugs on you... going to the ER I don't see having legal problems for you. Now getting a large bill and not paying it... they can't lock you up for that.... yet...

In my county there is a program for broke people without insurance. If you qualify you get super low cost ER/hospital shit. I turned ~$20-$30k worth of stuff into a few hundred.

For a big LOL... I am sorta confused now on all this tolerance stuff. I have been using Mxe pretty much daily for a few months. Some days a lot, some days a little. Thinking tolerance is building and what not...

Was digging through some stuff and found a TR I wrote for my first time using mxe back in november 2011. Took 25mg oral and 25mg plugged. Was bitching then it wasn't enough/where I wanted to be and was smoking weed. LOL I am pretty sure it was a decent batch too. This was after reading about people advising not going over 50mg back then, having crazy out of body experiences and what not with small amounts...

Found my second one and I took almost 100mg off top and added 30mg more an hour and a half later and then the report stops. I don't really remember that night. This was also while I was smoking weed. I do remember weed making it a lot more intense, and not even really feeling 50mg one night/it just making me irritable until I smoked.

What the fuck is up with this stupid drug...

Oh, also, for mr. psuedonomonomnom... I have 4 different batches of "mxe". Two, I am 100% sure are mxe, the other two I am iffy about. If I did a blind "taste test" I am fairly positive I could distinguish between the batches.

One is crystally. Feels super clean. Kinda warm blanket feel, but more "clinical". Seems to lack euphoria.

One is table saltish. Still seems like good mxe, a little less "clean", but more euphoria producing. Still warm blanket material.

Other is some powder stuff. Who knows what it really is. If I dose super high I get somewhere and I kinda like it, but expecting it to act like MXE just pisses me off.

Other is some weird shit that refuses to dissolve in water and almost seems to be more like MXP. Tried it once and got somewhere pretty cool on higher doses. Few days later and nothing near the same. Was sold as mxm, now vendor says its "harsh synth" mxe. I labeled it MXP. Who really knows? The fucking chinese thats who!
 
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i shudder when I think about the quality control of their "research chemicals"....but for the most part i'm sure they are all pretty clean. but you know for a damn fact they make the research chems with the same lab gear they've used to run highly toxic reaction mixtures containing heavy metals and all kinds of other horrible shit. These labs aren't just for making RCs, they make everything and everything in these labs, its not like a dutch clandestine X-lab, where all they do is make X, these are full on industrial labs with zero quality control enforcement.

i could be wrong, i could just be paranoid, but it has always been in the back of my head. if anyone knows better please tell me something otherwise.


i also find it ironic how they will lock you up in jail and throw away the key forever for using drugs. but manufacturing drugs and supplying the whole world with them for a profit is totally legal.

I think for china its about the jobs. As long as they don't sell the chems they make to other Chinese its all good. I mean china is one billion mahfickkas
 
Psoodonym I see where you're coming from but the fact is that a lot of people get consistently different effects from different batches of MXE that has been tested to be analytically pure. As in, I CANNOT get the same experience no matter how high I dose. So it is not simply a matter of purity (for example, if a batch was simply 20% less pure by weight).

I don't think expectations come into play too much here because I always have high hopes for a new batch of MXE. In fact it took me many uses to realize that it was simply not giving me the same experience I was used to. So perhaps it is true that at first, the placebo of thinking it was a high quality batch made it seem better than it was. However I eventually noticed a stark difference when one day I tried a bag that I thought was just as good from a month ago. As someone said, it's like the difference between grape juice and wine. The effects were so different that I still wonder if I have different drugs, I just don't have the money to get multiple samples tested right now. Maybe in a few months, but that's hundreds of dollars for something that may just say they are all just MXE..

It's not like it's keeping me up at night worrying about it, the point is that it makes purchasing MXE very difficult. I'm buying it because I want the magic feeling. When I pay a big chunk of money for a bag of magic and the magic isn't there, we have a problem. The problem is exacerbated when the MXE is actually analytically pure. Because then the source isn't actually selling 'bunk product', so even an honest vendor has to get rid of the stock.

I talk with my vendor about each batch and when there have been problems with 'no magic' in the past, he always reported having other people message him about the problem as well. Do you really think we are all having paranoid delusions at the same time about the same exact batches, or is it perhaps more likely that there really IS a reason for variance in analytically pure batches?
I sympathize with your frustrations. We've got this substance that sometimes evokes amazing subjective experiences. If it's REALLY the same stuff, why not the same amazing? I suspect the reason largely has to do with confirmation bias and the psychosocial dynamics of online drug discussion. People are far more motivated to post about something not going as expected than they are about something that meets all their hopes. This causes an "amplification" of "negative" signals. When the physically same MXE doesn't evoke the same response for unknown reasons people post about it, and others who coincidentally had their expectations dashed post too, creating a snowballing conformity effect that primes others sampling from what may very well be the same synthesis "batch" to expect the same.

We underestimate the profundity of perceived social attitudes on our own individual perception. But consider the fact that there are "waves" or "social epidemics" of something as individually psychologically volatile as suicidal tendencies. People kill themselves when they hear others are feeling the same, as if it's a sort of "permission." I'm betting they all think they're killing themselves for good reasons that are independently justifiable, or else they wouldn't go to such extremes. Yet if that's true in the relative sense we're speaking of it here then there's no explanation of social trends in suicide.

The human brain is the most complex physical system in known existence. The variables that can impinge on such a system are near infinite. There are only a few synthesis routes for producing MXE, and the possible unintended impurities can be enumerated. We can isolate such intrinsic variables and ask if they are relevant. In a case like 4-MeO-PCP, one synthesis route can result in the production of PCC, a potent unintended psychoactive impurity. However, cases like these are very rare, and are acknowledged as relevant exceptions. To my knowledge, MXE's synthesis isn't suspected of being capable of producing these sorts of exceptional unintended compounds (if such compounds were produced, they'd probably be sold!). So where is there left to look for sources of subjective variance? ... only the near infinite multitudes that impinge on the human mind.
 
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Well my plan to do 100mg of MXE a week turned into a 3 gram 5-day binge. LOL. Le Sigh. It's hard to describe the after effects of such a binge, but 'uncomfortable' and 'overly-sensitized' fits the description. It was a hell of a good time, but certainly not advisable for physical health, not to mention what the hell must be going on in my poor brain. Actually my brain doesn't feel so bad, maybe a slight bit glitched and a little foggy, but nothing that some caffeine can't help. My nervous system is really the thing that feels hardest hit. Anyone have tips to ease the comedown? I've got some etizolam which will help turn the volume down, and the Lyrica that I take daily also mitigates the after-effects on the nervous system. Definitely taking a long break this time, more than the week or two that I usually take. A mere week is not nearly long enough to reset the tolerance as seen by the huge doses I was able to consume without going completely bonkers.
 
Yeah MXE tolerance creeps up. Personally, due to my few months of doing it an average of 3 times a week (never in large doses though, 100mg is the most I've ever taken in a night and it was too much), I feel I have lost the magic except when it's used as an adjunct to other psychedelics. Every time I try to take it by itself it feels good but it lacks the magic I used to feel. Oh well, maybe it's a good thing as taking something 3 times a week isn't a good idea. It's still fantastic in combination with other things. Recently I have discovered a really great way to experience strong doses of tryptamines: take a large dose (last one was 35mg) of a tryptamine (I've done this with 4-AcO-DMT and 4-AcO-DET), add 10-15mg of 4-HO-MET (for warmth and friendliness), and then ~40mg of MXE, all at once dissolved in a glass of water. Really wonderful combination, you experience the main tryptamine fully and powerfully but with the added dissociation and comfort of the adjuncts. The MXE provides emotional objectivity and immersion.
 
I'll have finally made it my first full month in ages without MXE this Friday. I know y'all can put it down too! I still have some stashed away but I've just denied myself it. To be honest, I took the break more out of a desire to save what little (and only) MXE I have left or will ever again have, because if I can't have one last mexxy trip a couple years down the road, I'll be super bummed...

Thing is, now I find myself searching for a drug that can fill a similar role to MXE. I miss my dissociated weekends. I use N2O occasionally, but it's nothing compared to MXE (though I did do some whippits on L the other night... my God. Shit just put me on the ground for minutes on end!) and I'm fairly certain no other drug can measure up to the shear fun of a mexxy trip. Sigh... Goodbye MXE. We loved you so.
 
Well it hasn't even been 24 hours since my last dose of the epic binge, and after a serious nap courtesy of the etizolam I am feeling pretty fantastic already. I swear if there were more negative repercussions for (ab)use I would think more seriously about putting it down for good.
Good luck 240sxlover trying to find something to replace it, if you do let me know. I do need to put it down before I hurt myself irreversably. So far even at the extreme doses I haven't seemed to do any damage that can't be repaired after a few days of abstinence. Although who knows there could be some kind of cumulative damage that hasn't manifested itself in a way I can notice.
 
I'd be seriously concerned about the potential unseen effects if I were you vortech. Be careful man.
 
Forgive me if I'm mixing threads up but I think im going to get 4 grams of this and 1 of mxm. Anybody with a decent tolerance to mxe have any suggestions for a first dose of mxm? The smalllest amout of mxe worth doing for me is 100mgs. 150-200 is my sweet spot.
 
i was taking multiple batches and dosages of good quality and some not at 100 at LEAST to start..daily..
ridiculous combinations and potential harm to myself and others
find quality dissos work well dosing at a certain time later.. there is still plateaus ie cough syrup

i have completely stopped as of 14 days ago, and am also at the point in benzo taper to jump again and have reached over 72 hours.. given its still hell..
but i cant help but to thank specifically mxe and grateful for the permanent head rest it has allowed me to cozy into

i look forward to doing dissos again, if i am able to appreciate them fully and selectively, i do respect that the magic will always be gone
 
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