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Veganism/vegetarianism and "ethical" lifestyle choices

doesn't matter if you fooled the others with your back pedaling. You clearly implied you were being serious. Once you realized how ridiculous you were being, then you made it into a joke. You aren't fooling me.
 
You're like those people that read satirical articles in fake online newspapers and fail to realize that they're joking...

You aren't fooling me.
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The first 6 months I was in a relationship with my current girlfriend, I convinced her that there was a Nazi soldier in my family tree and that my mother was really embarrassed about it... That was one of my longer pranks... You said that I was a strange person and I should own it... Well, I do own it... Is it stranger to create a thread about being a Laotian midget in a full-sized Caucasian body if you truly believe it, or is it stranger to do it if you don't believe it... Who's crazier: the crazy person; or the person pretending to be crazy? Is there a difference? In the end, you don't really know me... You think you do, but you don't... I can say anything to anyone with a straight face... Doing it on the internet is child's play...

Right, must be very hard being so confused on where to draw the line.
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Yeah, mate.
I'm confused and you've got it all figured out.
There are no such thing as joke threads.
There is no such thing as satire.
Can we stop, now?
This is boring.
 
Does anyone think that maybe there are more important things to be worried about than the ethical treatment of a cow? Like, other human beings, for just one example. Or maybe the over-fishing of the ocean which constitutes a huge impact on both the livelyhood of millions of humans and the ecosystem which makes up 3/4 of the world's surface area?
 
Sure, but we don't have to address one thing at a time do we?

Murder is worse than theft.
So, according to your logic, we should - what - allow theft until we solve murder?
Nobody is suggesting that the ethical treatment of animals is priority number one.
 
Ya man, I know, poor cows and pigs, ducks, and geese, boo hoo. Way more important to tell first world people how to ethically eat than to help third world children learn how to raise said animals to eat.
 
forverafter, i just read about mollusk this morning in vegan forum. evidence seems to show that mollusk cant really experience pain. I think its safe to eat them as long they are the farmed one, not harvested in seas.

here some quote:
I found additional academic reviews that supported the idea that sensory afferents were not present in sessile bivalves. These structures are not difficult to detect in primitive organisms -- they are either there or they are not there. Given that these devolved animals lack even the most basic apparatus for sensation, the only way to propose that sessile bivalves can sense pain (much less experience it) is to propose some completely unknown mechanism.
To paraphrase: scientists have found no evidence that sessile bivalves can respond to environmental stimuli or tissue injury. While motile bivalves such as scallops and clams can clearly respond to their environement, sessile (permanently anchored and motionless) bivalves are for all intents and purposes sea mushrooms.
 
para-thesis said:
Ya man, I know, poor cows and pigs, ducks, and geese, boo hoo. Way more important to tell first world people how to ethically eat than to help third world children learn how to raise said animals to eat.
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we are not talking about poor Africans who dont have a choice but to eat what they can. we are talking about us rich people who could choose to not eat farmed animals but still decide to.

lets just say, I can excuse much more easily the fact they eat meat then why rich (and we are all rich if we have a computer) eat meat.

sure, but that thread is not about that.. vegetarian doesnt eat fish.
and, evidence have shown that meat farms are probably the most damaging industry for the eco system
para-thesis said:
Does anyone think that maybe there are more important things to be worried about than the ethical treatment of a cow? Like, other human beings, for just one example. Or maybe the over-fishing of the ocean which constitutes a huge impact on both the livelyhood of millions of humans and the ecosystem which makes up 3/4 of the world's surface area?
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I think if you were to look at issues and ethically choose which one's are more important to the world, yes, you have to pick and choose which ones are more important to take care of first.
 
Thanks, Murphy.

(Yes, from what I've read, it seems that there is no more reason to assume oysters can feel pain any more than plants can feel pain.)

Ya man, I know, poor cows and pigs, ducks, and geese, boo hoo. Way more important to tell first world people how to ethically eat than to help third world children learn how to raise said animals to eat.
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You said that with all the grace and sophistication of a high school bully.
Please take it down a notch.

I think if you were to look at issues and ethically choose which one's are more important to the world, yes, you have to pick and choose which ones are more important to take care of first.
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You really haven't thought that through, very well.
Society didn't just fall into place, you know...
Who chooses which issues are important?

Because we might disagree on the importance of not torturing animals.
Which one of us decides if it enough of a priority, to warrant any attention whatsoever?

What other issues - out of interest - do you think we should not devote any attention to?
(It will be very revealing to find out the answer to this question, so please don't skip it.)
 
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para-thesis said:
I think if you were to look at issues and ethically choose which one's are more important to the world, yes, you have to pick and choose which ones are more important to take care of first.
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lol.
please, tell me what you do in life to reduce african suffering?
why should you dont care about animals suffering? not because theres terrible things that is happening right now in the world to humans, doesnt meant that eating animals its okay. we are animals like they are.
 
O ya, lets just take care of all corruption and pain in the world at the same time, if we believe it, we can do it. You sound like those idiotic occupy wallstreet dumbasses. We have to take care of all suffering created by the big bad corporations at the same time, instead of focusing in on the issues that matter first.
 
ForEverAfter said:
You're like those people that read satirical articles in fake online newspapers and fail to realize that they're joking...



The first 6 months I was in a relationship with my current girlfriend, I convinced her that there was a Nazi soldier in my family tree and that my mother was really embarrassed about it... That was one of my longer pranks... You said that I was a strange person and I should own it... Well, I do own it... Is it stranger to create a thread about being a Laotian midget in a full-sized Caucasian body if you truly believe it, or is it stranger to do it if you don't believe it... Who's crazier: the crazy person; or the person pretending to be crazy? Is there a difference? In the end, you don't really know me... You think you do, but you don't... I can say anything to anyone with a straight face... Doing it on the internet is child's play...



Yeah, mate.
I'm confused and you've got it all figured out.
There are no such thing as joke threads.
There is no such thing as satire.
Can we stop, now?
This is boring.
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i don't pretend to know anything about you other than my opinion on the words you use. Whether you were lying when you said you were serious, or whether you are lying about it all being a joke, it remains consistent that you are willing to tell lies in pathological ways for what you claim to be your own amusement. You are even willing to undermine your girlfriend's trust in your word in pursuit of self pleasure. Yes, I get that this conversation does not please your ego. We get that you are pretty much admitting to being an internet troll so nothing you say can be taken seriously. I can move on now.
 
Yawn.

teach us all how to eat ethically, you great defender of the cow you.
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I'm not standing on a street corner, preaching to pedestrians.
I'm discussing the topic at hand.

If you don't want to discuss the ethics of vegetarianism then don't click on a thread called "the ethics of vegetarianism"... It's pretty simple, really...

so your word ought to be considered irrelevant.
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So, if it is irrelevant, move on.
Leave me alone.
 
turkalurk said:
exactly, from what your saying, I could deduce that you could just as well be pretending to be a vegan. You have no ethical reservations about deceiving people, so your word ought to be considered irrelevant.
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what are you talking about. theres nothing that shows that foreverafter isnt vegan. if you refer to mollusk, you should do some research on the matter.
dont you have anything better to do then personnal attacks?



turkalurk said:
You are even willing to undermine your girlfriend's trust in your word in pursuit of self pleasure.
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ridiculous
 
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