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EADD Benzo Discussion v. Finally remembered to start a new thread.

so 1mg would = 10mg of diaz. That's about the same strength as etiz then, or perhaps a little bit stronger as 1mg of etiz was said to be anything 6mg - 10mg of diaz.

Thanks for the info, ive discovered the hard way that its a good idea to know the strength of a benzo before you start boshing it. :o
 
Who knows anything about Diclazepam - say in comparison with etizolam etc

I've been taking them to sleep occasionally and to chill, nothing worrying yet, but should I be worried?
 
mydrugbuddy said:
so 1mg would = 10mg of diaz. That's about the same strength as etiz then, or perhaps a little bit stronger as 1mg of etiz was said to be anything 6mg - 10mg of diaz.

Thanks for the info, ive discovered the hard way that its a good idea to know the strength of a benzo before you start boshing it. :o
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Read this on another forum: "Clonazolam is four times as potent as Clonazepam, 0.5 of that = 10mg Diazepam so every 1mg of Clonazolam = 80mg Diazepam"!
 
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kate said:
Who knows anything about Diclazepam - say in comparison with etizolam etc

I've been taking them to sleep occasionally and to chill, nothing worrying yet, but should I be worried?
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You shouldn't use any benzos regularly or you'll get into a bad state with addiction. Diclazepam has a much longer half-life than etiz, 42 hours, so it'll stay in your system for days & it has active metabolites that will hang around even longer.
 
Looks like clonazolam is next on the list then, but as ill have to go outside my preffered vendor, im going to have to seriously do some google research as to guarantee a reliable source. Last time i used a different vendor i ended up with a load of bunk diclazepam - this was from one of the 'major' suppliers who just happen to be offering all of these novel new rc benzos

I dont think ill be bothering with the flubromazolam - it just sounds like a super potent version of flubromazapam, which im already a massive fan of and have a reliable source for anyway
 
I took some lorazepam and procyclidine last night for purely functional reasons. The procyclidine definitely potentiated the lorazepam. Just throwing that out there.
 
inflorescence said:
MDB where is that comparative chart you posted a while ago with different benzo/thenzos-it included the active half life etc- That was really useful and I wouldn't mind a gander at it again.

I do not take them for recreation I much prefer the productivity of stims but as a stim user they have their obvious uses especially as a hypnotic.Maybe I am strange but I find I can hammer etiz for a few weeks and then give up with no real noticeable rebound insomnia or ill effects.. but as a true insomniac who then fucks about with stims often I am probably a less usual user and their true effect on insomnia on me is hard to tell? I find Diaz pretty useless for comedowns/sleep would rather take 1-2mg of Etiz than say 40-50mg Diaz. I only find diaz really usefully in low dose say 5mg for true anxiety-say flying for instance but they seem to have no sedative effect as can affect some.
Diclaz..only had one batch from an alleged "reputable" vendor and couldn't understand people's warnings about blackouts and horror stories not that I disbelieve their experiences but they left me non pluseed.

Now Xanax is a weird one..great for me for short term periods of Insomnia for a few weeks and could maybe even see a smidgen of recreational value if they continued to work..but they don't with me..they just STOP working after low dose continual use of a few weeks..
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Yurtis Inflo http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/744960-Benzo-strength-equivalancies-(including-RCs)

Ive also had the experience of a benzo just stop working, it was etiz for me, guess i just oversaturated those receptors for too long or something, after a month or 2 of mainly using diclaz at relatively low doses, etiz is now working for me once again.
 
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steewith2ees said:
Looks like clonazolam is next on the list then, but as ill have to go outside my preffered vendor, im going to have to seriously do some google research as to guarantee a reliable source. Last time i used a different vendor i ended up with a load of bunk diclazepam - this was from one of the 'major' suppliers who just happen to be offering all of these novel new rc benzos

I dont think ill be bothering with the flubromazolam - it just sounds like a super potent version of flubromazapam, which im already a massive fan of and have a reliable source for anyway
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A lot of these RC benzos seem to be mega strong dont they. Thats not so bad if you're aware but punters who dont visit BL and others could get themseleves into a nasty mess with stuff like this. Ive got no excuse i was virtually a permanent resident on BL/EADD for about 2 years, and still got into 'a bit of a pickle'. Knowledege is one thing "wisdom is putting knowledge into practice" thats another way of saying i was very foolish. But i live and learn. For that much i am grateful.
 
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Wenlock said:
What colour are peoples nifoxipam? I've read some reports that some are orange, others brown, others white? Is there a reason for the various colours? Manufacturing imperfections?

*snip*
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Given the amount of active substance in any given pill I think you can be reasonably sure the colour is down to added colour.

That aside, one more instance of posting unnecessary and blatant vendor pix and you're getting infracted. Consider this fair and final warning.
 
Right do these new benzos not show up on tests?

I'm in treatment for mega benzo addiction. I binned all my conventional benzos expecting a taper. Nahh...

Gotta carry on for 6 weeka getting tested for benzos. So ive been taking vast quanties of rc benzos cos I couldn't afford to restock on conventional valium xanax nitraz loraz.

First two tests were positive now even though ive been hammering flubromazolam 2-3mg, clonazolam 3mg , diclazepam10-20mg, pyrazolam 3-6mg all together daily I tested negative for benzos, likely when the normal ones left my system.

Is this a freak event? Can they not detect the metabolites? Going for a urine test next week. Hope they don't think I'm lying because my diazepam taper which is very rare these days is important to me.

Another possibility, is the big company sending out sugar pills? 1.5mg clonazolam floored my mate so I think not but anyone else had inconsistencies?

What test should I ask for to prove I am an addict?

My tolerance is so huge the amount I have daily does nothing as far as I can tell.

I was just managing to get into a routine and dose management system too :(
 
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rugged butthole said:
Right do these new benzos not show up on tests?

I'm in treatment for mega benzo addiction. I binned all my conventional benzos expecting a taper. Nahh...

Gotta carry on for 6 weeka getting tested for benzos. So ive been taking vast quanties of rc benzos cos I couldn't afford to restock on conventional valium xanax nitraz loraz.

First two tests were positive now even though ive been hammering flubromazolam 2-3mg, clonazolam 3mg , diclazepam10-20mg, pyrazolam 3-6mg all together daily I tested negative for benzos, likely when the normal ones left my system.

Is this a freak event? Can they not detect the metabolites? Going for a urine test next week. Hope they don't think I'm lying because my diazepam taper which is very rare these days is important to me.

Another possibility, is the big company sending out sugar pills? 1.5mg clonazolam floored my mate so I think not but anyone else had inconsistencies?

What test should I ask for to prove I am an addict?

My tolerance is so huge the amount I have daily does nothing as far as I can tell.

I was just managing to get into a routine and dose management system too :(
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Don't think we can do drug testing questions mate but most of the rc's don't show, however some of the newer ones may have metabolites that will give you a positive.
 
Not being able to have RCs shipped to my house is beginning to endanger me. Out of loraz again and all I have to tide me over till refill day are fucking Libriums. Cue shaking everywhere.
 
5StarSquatHotel said:
Don't think we can do drug testing questions mate but most of the rc's don't show, however some of the newer ones may have metabolites that will give you a positive.
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I tested positive for benzos on more than one occasion when pisstested after using etizolam and diclazepam (separately, months apart) when there was no possible traditional benzo in my system. No idea about other RC benzos. And, yes, drug test questions are a bit tricky. Depends on the wording but - broadly speaking - no drug test questions unless very specific and can in no way be seen as trying to game the test.

What I would suggest is being honest with your doctor/DSP and telling them it is RC benzos being used and maybe printing out the wiki pages and any other relevant info to show them.
 
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