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[MEGA] Synthetic Cannabinoid Discussion - Take 4

in high school a girl in my social studies class apparently smoked spice before class then freaked the fuck out right in class.
She had to get carried out on a stretcher.
to be fair this particular girl would have done the same thing on good weed tho.
but still...
 
Spice was amazing the 2 times i did it but i would never do it again.
Because it's bad for you, addictive, and there are rumors that overabusing it can ruin real weed for you because it is so much more potent.

i've been smoking synthetic cannabinoids on and off for 6 years, and cannabis has not been ruined for me yet.

if approached responsibly synthetic cannabinoinds are not immediately destructive to one's life. start with a low dose, don't smoke too often, take tolerance breaks here and there. don't smoke a ton of it before going to class, especially if you're not sure how you react to it. and make sure your doses don't escalate too high -- it takes me two or three months to go through a gram of pure 'noids (more or less time depending on how potent the 'noid in question is).

if approached responsibly the only real concern is potential long term damage that we might be doing to ourselves. and since these things are so new, no one really knows if we might get medical problems that will pop up way down the line. there is a chance that some of these synthetic cannabinoids will be DNA alkylating carcinogens, and many carcinogens take years and years and years before the cancer pops up.
 
total total newbee and hope this is the right place or can be pointed in the direction of

got 2g of cannabinoid powder (5f-akb-48 and 5f-pb-22) i am not a smoker and looking for how to use, dosage, and such like, trip reports, and administration methods

thnx in advance
 
those 5f variants i would approach toilet empty bags and flush. that is the best advice i can give. They are seriously strong and if you are not a regular weed user they will scare the shit out of you. If you feel you must try them out i would say choose plain akb- 48 and make a blend. Google how to if you can and start as low as you can and wait a while to feel effects dont go ram stam at it.
 
^^^ what he said, a lot of people with high noid tolerance turn to 5F derivatives as a last resort since the receptors are blown out.

good start outs are pinacas, THJ-018, pb-22 stuff like that. but ya most of these have active dosages in the 2-3mg ranges, so make sure you have a good scale and are good with math as far as ratios to substrate and solvent go. one very slight miscalculation can have huge consequences.

ABCHIMNACA is 10X as potent as JWH018, so sub-milligram dosages are active, .02mg, you better have a accurate mil scale just to make a weak batch on that one.
 
Spice was amazing the 2 times i did it but i would never do it again.
Because it's bad for you, addictive,

many noids were created by pharmaceutical companies as pain killers, brain and nervous system aids.

for example, JWH-133 is used as an Alzheimer treatment. CP derivatives were designed to treat schizophrenia.

this whole idea that synth noids are intrinsically "bad for you" was created by the government propaganda, the same government that does nothing whatsover to stop the countless lives affected yearly on prescription opioid and benzo abuse, so consider the source, if it makes them money = "not bad" if they are not making money off of it = "bad".

The 4 major Spice manufactures in the U.S. that were shut down were funded by government grants for small business start ups, synth noids were around almost 20 years before that and were well studied.

Yes people abused them, vendors got greedy and were putting unsafe stuff from god knows were in China into shit and it was never regulated the way it should of been to be safe for human consumption so shit happened, again the governments fault, they created the problem so they could conveniently come in as heros and stop it, DEA made a lot of money and additional funding on that one.

the government pays 2 billions dollars a year in foreign countries to stop "drugs" a nameless faceless enemy with no accountability for where the money goes and what it is used for.

they spend 0 dollars a year testing U.S. research chemicals for the public to insure their safety, during the good ole days of spice vendors all the way to present total budget they have spent regulating the industry for the safety of the public a BIG GOOSE EGG> 0
yet the government made 112 million dollars a year in one state alone on the taxes from spice sales in gas stations.

/rant
 
After feeling muscle twitches on ab-chiminica, trashed it. 1g would have gotten me high daily for the next couple years but I'm not about to fuck with that garbage.

Fuck synth-noids', if I'm getting stoned I'm getting stoned the way nature intended it.
 
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red raspberry leaf. WAY better consistency. no shake no stems. just all around great stuff. always use tasty puff for your flavor and never spray. always bathe. i im basically a synthcanmfg but my knowledge of RC's is mostly confined to that area. would love to know what worthwhile chems are availiable to ship to us that are wotrth trying. please help anyone.
 
always use tasty puff for your flavor and never spray.
Oh really, what is the difference? Taste or fluctuation of active ingredients maybe? I'm asking since I was gonna "play with pope tobacco" (quote!) by flavouring it. We thought a nebulizer would be better since too much water should significantly change the distribution of whatever polar chemicals add to the taste. Could improve it though, I'm not an expert on drying herbs unfortunately.
 
After feeling muscle twitches on ab-chiminica, trashed it. 1g would have gotten me high daily for the next couple years but I'm not about to fuck with that garbage.

Fuck synth-noids', if I'm getting stoned I'm getting stoned the way nature intended it.
It's just not fun to smoke the synthetic cannabinoids I've sampled. If somebody needs to do it due to lack of ability, being drug test or nothaving enough money I can see why they's be a godsent.

The real issue that's keeping me from using it regularly is the shitty taste. Craving the taste and the high itself are in equal amounts responsible for my daily pot habit. Well that and th fact that I'm okay with the sides.
 
how safe is this one MMB-CHMINACA ordered forgetting about reported deaths involved

I've been using it on and off. Hated it at first, it's extremely potent (like 5x ab-fubinaca strength or more). After I got tolerance it's a 'noid with a good duration of action and sedating high but the side effect on heart rate is worrisome. It's the easiest cannabinoid to overdose and get paranoid on of all that I have tried in my lifetime. It's also the most unpleasant one when and if it happens.

Use with caution. Can't stress it enough with this one.
 
my friend has homemade blends of the following:
MMB-CHIMINACA
5F-AMB
5F-SDB005
FUB-AMB
All with blends made at 1:10 1:20 and 1:30 strawberry blueberry and convicted melon flavors. PM me if you would like more info on the ratios or lab findings....
 
Sorry i'm the fng and posted this as a new thread by mistake.
Florida banned 90 noids now. What's out there that's still legal and gives a JWH018 type feeling? I'm an alcoholic and used noids only when I got the urge to drink. This urge has returned due to some big stress in my life, my job requires a 5 panel screen so the real deal isn't an option, can anyone help? Thanks
 
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