The Main 5-MAPB Thread

[MedicinalHeroin]

And I would up the tryptamine up to 10 15--mg if you have a chance to feel it with the other doses

I dunno man, the 5-mapb has a slight trippiness to itself, and I find that I can noticeably feel the effects of 4-aco-met from just the bits I end up licking off my fingers while weighing out capsules although I plan on bumping it to 15mg to go for a candyflip cocktail after im satisfied with an MDMA cocktail.

I've tried 80 mg 5-MAPB (plus 5 mg of a tryptamine), and the 80 mg 5-MAPB already felt like a perfect dosage. Among other effects I ended up saying stuff I felt embarassed about the next day. The stimulant part was missing but it didn't feel like a problem at all. I don't know if I'd be ready to try 120 mg, it seems a bit high to me.

120mg seemed high to me too, which is why my first and only dose so far was 90mg. It was an enjoyable roll-ish feeling, but short lived and underwhelming in my opinion. Also very sedating.

Btw, is anyone worrying about the fact that this popular combo (stim + 5-MAPB + trypt) might draw attention to substances that would otherwise have stayed less known? This could potentially lead to a faster ban of some substances that are used for something else than replicating the MDMA experience (such as 2-FMA as a study aid, or metocin as a psych). Never tried 2-FMA but I'm willing to, and a large ban on such a great substance as metocin would be such a shame.

Id be very surprised if this cocktail is the thing that brings 5-mapb in the limelight. We enthusiasts might care about more accurately recreating an MDMA roll with RCs, but the average joe is going to be more than happy popping 5-mapb on its own sold as molly.

And I cant see 2-fma being banned anytime soon- I bought a gram of it and cant really find any great uses for it. It doesnt give me the "push" or tunnel vision adderall does used as a study aid, nor does it provide enough euphoria to really take recreationally. Bumps of it kind of sting and the texture doesnt help either.

 

[Peacephrog1972]

So what is everyone favorite ROA for this one??

 

[Shaal]

120mg seemed high to me too, which is why my first and only dose so far was 90mg. It was an enjoyable roll-ish feeling, but short lived and underwhelming in my opinion. Also very sedating.

Interesting. 80 mg were not underwhelming for me (I don't have any tolerance). The person with me took 60 mg and was satisfied as well (but this person usually takes lower dosages). In my experiences I didn't find it sedating, only lacking stimulation (which I didn't care at all about). I smoked a few joints during the night, but they didn't make me paranoid / introspect. Just more relaxed. About the duration, I dropped at 1 am, and realized the effects were wearing off at around 6 am. The next day I was still feeling after effects (feeling good, wanting to cuddle and talk) and the person who took it with me as well. I'd have to try 80 mg alone to be sure, but it seems to me that the trypt added real depth to the experience (I've only tried 5-MAPB on its own at lower dosages).

 

[cousinskeeter]

^I agree with it lacking any meaningful stimulation.

This stuff was very fun, but extremely serotonergic. It was like all of the trip-aspect of a roll, without anything else. It was also literally impossible to get my dick hard for longer than 4 seconds. I would gander that mixing this stuff for a combo 5-MAPB+stim would be a fun time no doubt.

 

[Innerpeace]

Interesting. 80 mg were not underwhelming for me (I don't have any tolerance). The person with me took 60 mg and was satisfied as well (but this person usually takes lower dosages). In my experiences I didn't find it sedating, only lacking stimulation (which I didn't care at all about). I smoked a few joints during the night, but they didn't make me paranoid / introspect. Just more relaxed. About the duration, I dropped at 1 am, and realized the effects were wearing off at around 6 am. The next day I was still feeling after effects (feeling good, wanting to cuddle and talk) and the person who took it with me as well. I'd have to try 80 mg alone to be sure, but it seems to me that the trypt added real depth to the experience (I've only tried 5-MAPB on its own at lower dosages).

for a first time user of this , best to stay t a common dose or even lower and not mix anything, you can saved the moderate dosing and mixing with a stim for another time, once you learn how this compound works with your body and eae into it each time, while till taking three months minimum breaks

^I agree with it lacking any meaningful stimulation.

This stuff was very fun, but extremely serotonergic. It was like all of the trip-aspect of a roll, without anything else. It was also literally impossible to get my dick hard for longer than 4 seconds. I would gander that mixing this stuff for a combo 5-MAPB+stim would be a fun time no doubt.

what is the trip aspect of a roll?

wold mixing it with a stim be okay, like say caffeine or ephedrine? No known nuerotoxicty? (again for more advanced /expirienced users of this stuff)

how about taking viagra or cialis on this stuff-okay i assume?

 

[neal301]

WARNING : I'm gonna go into some personal details

Masturbation : I've had godlike jerking sessions on 5-mapb :D First time I ever tried it, went with 110+110 mg, weed and poppers. Porn never looked so good. In fact, I ended up having the greatest (anal) orgasm of my life. I couldn't hear no sounds, I couldn't see anything but a white light that I bathed in, and I couldn't feel my body, as if it melted and blended with all the matter surrounding me. It was close to nirvana. Indeed, it was so good that it became the dragon I chased for months and ended up depressed but that's another story
I once had a binge session with over 400 mg of 5-mapb and 100 mg of 5-apb; I ended up masturbating for 20 + hours. Of course, it was mostly anal masturbation because maintaining an erection is almost impossible for that long. And although I had many anal orgasms, I believe I never had a normal penile orgasm.

Sex : I tried a few times with my wife, and it was amazing. The main thing to remember though is, again, maintaining an erection is hard (I guess it's due to vasoconstriction). Plus, it's very easy to veer off course and start talking I remember one time we would fuck for 10 minutes, then talk for 15, then fuck for another 10 and talk for another 15 for hours. Cumming in the usual way is also hard. But if you don't mind that, it's not a problem, there are so many other things you can do to have fun And again, some weed and poppers makes it even more heavenly.

And in my experience the comedown can last for quite a bit, once we had sex at t+15/16 and it was still amazing. Plus, at that moment, I could finally come normally, and achieving that in your loved one's body under the influence is really gooooood.

What dose was this at? Im a little confused as to the first time dosing, I am VERY experienced with mdma, but from what people are saying this stuff seems alot more potent. If there are negative side effects at above 100mg im definitely gonna start around 50-70.

 

[sinan]

What dose was this at? Im a little confused as to the first time dosing, I am VERY experienced with mdma, but from what people are saying this stuff seems alot more potent. If there are negative side effects at above 100mg im definitely gonna start around 50-70.

First time I dosed 110 mg, plus 110 mg one hour later. 220 mg totals.

 

[drugs_for_parents]

I have done it several times.
Three times at clubs
Male, 6'2" 170ish pounds

First time: 90mg 5-mapb with 40mg 2-fa. With a sober friend. Great experience.
Second time: 100mg 5-mapb with 10mg 4-aco-dmt and 20mg 2-fa with a friend who took same dose. This was too much for either of us.
Third time: 85mg 5-mapb with .5mg 5-meo-mipt and 30 mg 2-fma. This was great for my friend, but too little for me.

Also dosed some others for therapeutic use.
80mg 5-mapb. Excellent experience helping 120ish lb female with PTSD symptoms. She commented that it was the most useful and the most unpleasent experience ever.
80mg 5-mapb each for a couple with relationship issues. Both said it helped them sort out issues. Both stated that the substance is completely not recreational alone.

For a club, add a stimulant, great on its own for psychotherapy. Dose curve seems oddly steep compared to eg methylone or 4-mmc in my limited experience.

 

[Innerpeace]

I have done it several times.
Three times at clubs
Male, 6'2" 170ish pounds

First time: 90mg 5-mapb with 40mg 2-fa. With a sober friend. Great experience.
Second time: 100mg 5-mapb with 10mg 4-aco-dmt and 20mg 2-fa with a friend who took same dose. This was too much for either of us.
Third time: 85mg 5-mapb with .5mg 5-meo-mipt and 30 mg 2-fma. This was great for my friend, but too little for me.

Also dosed some others for therapeutic use.
80mg 5-mapb. Excellent experience helping 120ish lb female with PTSD symptoms. She commented that it was the most useful and the most unpleasent experience ever.
80mg 5-mapb each for a couple with relationship issues. Both said it helped them sort out issues. Both stated that the substance is completely not recreational alone.

For a club, add a stimulant, great on its own for psychotherapy. Dose curve seems oddly steep compared to eg methylone or 4-mmc in my limited experience.

Ty for your experience. Good insight here

question about with the 120 ish lb female that did 80 mgs.she said it was the most useful and unpleasant expirience ever, is that a typo? if not, what didnt she like about it ?

 

[drugs_for_parents]

Girl was 26, 5'10" 118 pounds.
Not a typo. She felt much better with her life after the drug had worn off and she had integrated the experience. I can from observation that her personality was completely different. She was prone to serious depression before, but that totally disappeared about a week after taking 5-mapb.
The experience itself was terrible for her.
I was there, I won't post a full report (no time, and a bit of a confidentiality thing), but here is the gist...

She was sexually assaulted as a young child (by another young child who was probably emulating something his parents had done) and it left her pretty messed up. She relived the experience on 5-mapb, it was very unpleasant for her, but she was able to move past it as a result. She even forgave the kid; the bit about him just emulating behavior he observed were her words, not mine. She also experienced complete ego loss at one point during the experience and kept asking me if she was dead. This was her first experience with any drug though (she had not even tried weed and never more than one alcoholic drink at a time), so people with higher mental tolerance might have very different effects.

 

[Innerpeace]

Girl was 26, 5'10" 118 pounds.
Not a typo. She felt much better with her life after the drug had worn off and she had integrated the experience. I can from observation that her personality was completely different. She was prone to serious depression before, but that totally disappeared about a week after taking 5-mapb.
The experience itself was terrible for her.
I was there, I won't post a full report (no time, and a bit of a confidentiality thing), but here is the gist...

She was sexually assaulted as a young child (by another young child who was probably emulating something his parents had done) and it left her pretty messed up. She relived the experience on 5-mapb, it was very unpleasant for her, but she was able to move past it as a result. She even forgave the kid; the bit about him just emulating behavior he observed were her words, not mine. She also experienced complete ego loss at one point during the experience and kept asking me if she was dead. This was her first experience with any drug though (she had not even tried weed and never more than one alcoholic drink at a time), so people with higher mental tolerance might have very different effects.

thats encouraging to hear. Ive been though some traumatic issues and have though about using a therapy-ish dose and ask someone close to help me face some traumatic experiences . I think its at least worth a shot

 

[maynard29607]

I got some clear tan crystals from a vendor recently. Tried 50mg and so did my wife. I felt threshold, but my wife got mild euphoria. Will double it to 100mg.

It sounds as if we may have gotten a weaker batch in looking at these posts.....o well, if 100 is not the sweet spot, we plan to add 1-2g b+ cubensis and see where that goes

 

[drugs_for_parents]

The dose curve is STEEP. 50mg to 100mg is a huge jump in effects. There is also a strong synergy with psychedelics. Combining the two results in a very sedating experience. I would try 90 rather than 100, but its up to you of course.

 

[neal301]

Just got my 2 gram shipment from a trusted source. Rocks look exactly like MDMA, brown.

50mg down the hatch. Will update this post and redose in T+1:30 if its a good experience.

Wish me luck

EDIT: T+1:05
Snorted 25mg due to a lack of effects. OUCH. and I mean OUCHHHHH. Definitely feeling something now.

EDIT 2: T+1:20
Popped 15mg dextroamphetamine to add dopomine stimulation.
Forgetting random shit and everything feels better.

EDIT 3: T+1:27
Parachuted another 75mg of 5mapb

T+1:54
ROLLING FACE

T+4:40
Took another 50mg to come back up because im coming down mad hard.
This stuff is really weird, I have most of the side effects of MDMA but I dont have any crazy desire to talk about random shit with my girlfriend who I am with right now. Definitely a heavy body load, leg is covered in purple veins. Keeping hydrated is a MUST.

 

[maynard29607]

The dose curve is STEEP. 50mg to 100mg is a huge jump in effects. There is also a strong synergy with psychedelics. Combining the two results in a very sedating experience. I would try 90 rather than 100, but its up to you of course.

Sorry, just now read this...

Wife and I did 100mg each last night for valentines. I saw that curve you speak of. 50 had me nowhere, but 100 was splendid! Come up was 30 minutes, had mind blowing sex(this actually increased my sex drive unlike MDMA, which tends to be distracting). I got no jaw clenching and could have gone to sleep on it.

After 4 hours as I felt the effects wear off, had a mix drink and some fast food. Woke up feeling wonderful. Decided to take a 5 mile walk through town.

I could see the benefit of adding low dose stimulant and psychedelics, but I wasn't left wanting last night.

 

[Innerpeace]

Just got my 2 gram shipment from a trusted source. Rocks look exactly like MDMA, brown.

50mg down the hatch. Will update this post and redose in T+1:30 if its a good experience.

Wish me luck

EDIT: T+1:05
Snorted 25mg due to a lack of effects. OUCH. and I mean OUCHHHHH. Definitely feeling something now.

EDIT 2: T+1:20
Popped 15mg dextroamphetamine to add dopomine stimulation.
Forgetting random shit and everything feels better.

EDIT 3: T+1:27
Parachuted another 75mg of 5mapb

T+1:54
ROLLING FACE

T+4:40
Took another 50mg to come back up because im coming down mad hard.
This stuff is really weird, I have most of the side effects of MDMA but I dont have any crazy desire to talk about random shit with my girlfriend who I am with right now. Definitely a heavy body load, leg is covered in purple veins. Keeping hydrated is a MUST.

Thank you for he report

vasoconstriction that bad , on this stuff?

marquis , mearke and reaqents (all three test kits)on this stuff, and did it in fact turn purple and black?

 

[tripz_two]

Just got my 2 gram shipment from a trusted source. Rocks look exactly like MDMA, brown.

50mg down the hatch. Will update this post and redose in T+1:30 if its a good experience.

Wish me luck

EDIT: T+1:05
Snorted 25mg due to a lack of effects. OUCH. and I mean OUCHHHHH. Definitely feeling something now.

EDIT 2: T+1:20
Popped 15mg dextroamphetamine to add dopomine stimulation.
Forgetting random shit and everything feels better.

EDIT 3: T+1:27
Parachuted another 75mg of 5mapb

T+1:54
ROLLING FACE

T+4:40
Took another 50mg to come back up because im coming down mad hard.
This stuff is really weird, I have most of the side effects of MDMA but I dont have any crazy desire to talk about random shit with my girlfriend who I am with right now. Definitely a heavy body load, leg is covered in purple veins. Keeping hydrated is a MUST.

If you get a chance, give us a summary of your thoughts after a night on this. Also, when you say most of the side effects of MDMA do you really mean actual side effects like eye wobbling and teeth grinding, or do you mean the desirable effects of MDMA?

 

[tripz_two]

So, is the domestic US stuff that's brown not as strong as the white batches people are reporting from EU sources? Also, how does the libido and tactile compare to MDMA?

 

[Innerpeace]

So, is the domestic US stuff that's brown not as strong as the white batches people are reporting from EU sources? Also, how does the libido and tactile compare to MDMA?

I've tried 2 batches, one beige/off-white powder, one white powder, and they had exactly the same effects. I'm not sure how to differentiate between batch strength, or if the whole strong-batch v. weak-batch thing is even true.

is every-one using all three test kits on this stuff?

 

[neal301]

Okay since I'm getting alot more feedback than I thought I would I will wrap up, gladly because alot was left out of that last post.

This stuff is very weird, when I say side effects I mean my vision was constantly straying from one thing to another (eye wobbling) and that my jaw felt extremely tense. My body had a very relaxed feeling throughout it and very warm, but my feet were freezing and yes I had purple vens all throughout my leg, I definitely felt like my body was under quite alot of strain.

I was with my girlfriend the entire experience and we were able to engage in sexual activity. *EXPLICIT CONTENT THIS PARAGRAPH* I could maintain an erection with no problems, however the weird part was I was spontaneously loose feeling in it and I would go "wait am I still hard?" and I would be. The most difficult part about sex on this stuff is actually CONVINCING yourself to do it, and you really do have an extremely short attention span. How this plays out is while engaging in intense intercourse or such it is very pleasing and nice, but the SECOND you stop or pause you just get lost. Very difficult to imagine.

Another thing that was very odd about this substance: the redose was much better than the initial dose. Something was just not right with the first dose, I felt absent minded, and blank. Not what you would expect from a serotonergic substance. It is worth noting I took 20 (yes 20 not 15) mg of dextroamphetamine and its possible that had something to do with it (took this with the first dose). It is DEFINITELY a locked in and stoned feeling. Just laying down and listening to music was very enjoyable.

All in all, it didnt feel healthy, and I really wasnt too impressed with the mental effects. There is some tactile enhancement. Me and my girlfriend redosed 3 times and then had a VERY pleasant sleep without the aid of sedatives (it almost made me tired).

EDIT: about me for accuracy's sake: I have used .3 of MDMA once a month about 4 times in the past year (aka never more than once a month) and the last time I used mdma was last month. I am only on dextramphetamine as a medication for adhd and I abuse it regularly.