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Gibberings CLXXVIII - Too skanky for your tastes?

All of us in are in the gutter, but some of us look to the stars :)

(and I'm quoting that almost with a straight face - which has got to count for something)
 
Eveleivibe said:
No offence but why do some of you take certain drugs when all I hear is how miserable they make you feel with the come downs? Is it worth it? You could get true happiness - and better mental health from the endorphin rush of exercise, healthy eating n clean air as well as vitamin D.

What take stuff that make you have these horrific comedowns????

I've not had alcohol in a week n a half now n I feel ace.
Still on subbies n citalopram but one step at a time.

I'm not judging by the way so please don't get offended - Im simply asking as it seems ludicrous.

Evey
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You've just jumped straight to the negative, youve missed out the blissed state of euphoria and love, the confidence and creativity. A state of ecstasy. It is worth the discomfort afterwards, and that usually stems from lack of sleep, if you manage enough sleep afterwards at some point its fairly minimal. I never really got bad comedowns anyway.

If you tried stims, psychs etc you'd understand. Why did you take codeine to the point it caused you consequences, that can be seen as ludicrous with that chain of thought..

You have hangovers from booze, its no different really.

No amount of exercise or vitamin D would come close to the happiness of dropping some top notch MDMA.

By the way, im not offended ;)
 
Comedowns aren't that bad, if you moan that much about having a comedown then you're either a complete wimp, super sensitive to a type of drug, or you majorly overdid it with something. Usually the last one. I've been hammering the shit out of everything from Thursday till Sunday night, had an amazing time and waking up this morning only felt a bit groggy and a tad more upset than I would have been today anyway. I'm pretty lucky in that I'm particularly ususceptible to comedowns or anything in general anyway but even if I did get them properly (as I did when I first started taking anything) the high is always worth it. Also agree about it having a lot to do with lack of sleep, also lack of hydration.

If only I was a mind reader scotchy, I only got home fucking half an hour ago. Walked so fast from uni station I felt like I was going to collapse, must be my healthy lifestyle. I was probably equally likely to get murdered on that walk even though I'm 'ard so might have been worth the risk.

I am now feeling proper exhausted and wan, beddy time and a fat line of coke when I have to wake up in 7 hours i think.
 
ScotchMist said:
You've just jumped straight to the negative, youve missed out the blissed state of euphoria and love, the confidence and creativity. A state of ecstasy. It is worth the discomfort afterwards, and that usually stems from lack of sleep, if you manage enough sleep afterwards at some point its fairly minimal. I never really got bad comedowns anyway.

If you tried stims, psychs etc you'd understand. Why did you take codeine to the point it caused you consequences, that can be seen as ludicrous with that chain of thought..

You have hangovers from booze, its no different really.

No amount of exercise or vitamin D would come close to the happiness of dropping some top notch MDMA.

By the way, im not offended ;)
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The difference was I was ADDICTED. It just seems daft to me to take something to feel good when you just end up depressed n feeling like crap for days in end.

No I've no wish to try stims. My emotions are messed up as it is. I took codeine to balance out my emotions n negativity. I was not in my right mindset. I was an addict, as you very much know. Had I not have had a L5/S1 disc hernation, I'd have never taken it.

But I hear all that Dan n others seem to go through on a weekly basis just for a day or so if 'feeling good' n it really doesn't make sense to me as to why you all put yourself through it when you have the choice not to n are not dependent or in dysfunctional mindset.

Exercise is more likely to balance out my emotions n improve mental health. Stims appear to mess up mental health both on a temporary n permanent basis from what I've heard off many.

Thank u for your responses. It's much appreciated.

Evey
 
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SummerSerenade said:
Comedowns aren't that bad, if you moan that much about having a comedown then you're either a complete wimp, super sensitive to a type of drug, or you majorly overdid it with something. Usually the last one.
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you forgot to list " young" amoung the reasons.
just wait a little bit and see your body catch up ... there s no way my partying can be as wild now as it was 10 years ago. and im not even talking about using massive amounts of substances either

@ evey - it s probably better then that you havent had anything else but codeine and your meds. yeah exercise will do you good and so is a healthy diet and all that :)

dont forget people are also more likely to be on bluelight moaning about comedowns then when they are actually having fun.... there are very few posts here about how great the concert is going right now, or how hot the girls you re chatting with at the party are. simply because in the happy place and happy moment you are there, not on a forum
 
very true about someone being sensitive to particular drug. Can happen.

I'll take mdma comedown and after effect over opiate withdrawal or alcohol hangover any day of the week.

But I like MXE better than MDMA because much less side-effects for me.

Depends what you mean by addicted. My friend is addicted to MDMA, takes it 2 to 3 times per week when going out.
 
Eveleivibe said:
I do agree there. That remark about Father Christmas was uncalled for. Raas did nothing to warrant that. All he did was defend me when everyone was saying I'm talking bollox.

Edit: would anyone like a camomile tea????

Evey
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Hang on a minute here, what about this

Creepy_McGee said:
Coz you play favourites and abuse your mod powers to suit you. arrrrghh I wish I could snip YOU off the mod list. you're useless.
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You (and him) might think its OK to persistently make unfounded and slanderous posts about me personally, stating that I'm bias, unfair and deliberately victimising you (and now him apparently) but I have no right to respond :? ...and your link doesnt work BTW :D

Do I think these posts are verging on harassment, do I think these posts could be construed as libelous, deceptive, fraudulent, tortious or inaccurate Indeed I do:\ Have I removed any of them....no ....how that makes me bias I've no idea

In both you cases your definition of bias is anyone who takes any action you don't like, since you would have no idea what other action I have or have not taken against others your view has little to no validity, it's barely a baby step above whining

Creepy_McGee said:
The BLUA states that it is not affiliated with other links put on the site, but doesn't stipulate that they are not allowed on the site.


Point aside, it was your initial response that was ignorant.
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If you've an issue with the tiny <snip> I made to your post you are well aware of how to go about asking for a further explanation, I tire of your constant need to bleat on and on...that is far closer to the definition of ignorant IMHO
 
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Morning folks!

Another dreich day... I was just checking the status of my hat I ordered & I was shocked to see it is coming from Milano. Makes you wonder, you're shopping on a .co.uk website but their warehouses aren't even in the same country. Perhaps it's a case of it's coming from the main warehouse, rather than the ones here. Who knows... I guess I can understand why their delivery is so expensive now.
 
I know it doesn't work i checked it last night. Will sort it later.

I'm not harassing you at all, Allein. In fact, despite all this I tried to be helpful towards you the other day when you asked help with your leg. I also bumped the thread encase others had missed it n may have advice.

Having an opinion is not slandering you. And taking things further was only what YOU suggested that I do when I tried discussing things with, even tried making a truce with you. You asked me, both publicly n privately to "take it up elsewhere," of which I did do. And now i'm harassing you for doing as you told me????

Anyway I'm no longer going to discuss this as we just going round in circles n it's just going to bore everyone.

Evey
 
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kingme said:
it will not work.

only way for it to work is to get in with a program.
i could never motivate myself at home to do such things.
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Ok let's elaborate. If you are training. Say to get ripped / toned / bodybuild or whatever then YES you need a programme where you work
Out different muscle groups separately. This is to ensure that each muscle group is repaired before the next workout because you get micro tears in the muscles (that's how they build. It prevents over-training, which occurs if muscle groups are worked without time for them to repair. Also gives all muscle groups chance to be worked through the week so you've not got, say perfectly toned arms n shite legs.

If you are aiming for simple weight-loss, whether or not depends on the individual and a number of factors ie motivational factors etc.

All common sense really :)

Evey
 
even lurking is slow today....

weather is also confused. cant figure out if it s cloudy with spots of sunshine or sunny with a sombre overcast of clouds.

no matter, still got work to do.
2+ weeks to go
 
Eveleivibe said:
Ok let's elaborate. If you are training. Say to get ripped / toned / bodybuild or whatever then YES you need a programme where you work
Out different muscle groups separately. This is to ensure that each muscle group is repaired before the next workout because you get micro tears in the muscles (that's how they build. It prevents over-training, which occurs if muscle groups are worked without time for them to repair. Also gives all muscle groups chance to be worked through the week so you've not got, say perfectly toned arms n shite legs.

If you are aiming for simple weight-loss, whether or not depends on the individual and a number of factors ie motivational factors etc.

All common sense really :)

Evey
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i dont really know how to repond.
my comment was more or less about people being usually overenthusiastic and a bit too hopeful about their goals and means to get there. weight loss is not easy for most people, in that we re usually talking about losing ~10% of someone s weight at least, and that requires a lot more dedication than people think, including permanent lifestyle changes.
losing 2kg a month and then putting it on again in winter or a few more months later doesnt mean anything. nor losing weight without thinking properly about diet, sleep, hydration, exercise. a lot of effort people put into weight loss is wasted and can even do more harm then good, which is why i think that people who really need to lose weight (obese BMI>30) should seek some form of help

if anything, having someone look over your progress can motivate/scare you into following your goals
 
thank you FG. though it isnt my usual work, which is why it feels liek such a burden at times.

how is your "free from drugs" thing going for you?
 
at least you got work and money coming in you got to just look it that way mate :)

its going good i know its only a few days in but i feel different healthy in mind n body at the minute

got somethings coming to set aside in case i slip back in the dark places though just got to remember to keep them for then and not now
 
thats good to hear FG.
it might be a good idea to let someone else keep your stash for you eh :P

(time for a break to town)
 
wish i had someone to do that its nothing much just a gram of mpa and 2 of mxe so on real damage to be done giving the benzos away to a friend in america as soon as i get them though as they were ordered a while ago and just don't seem to be turning up
 
foolsgold said:
its going good i know its only a few days in but i feel different healthy in mind n body at the minute
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Just think, if you are already feeling good after this long... how great will you feel after a few weeks, or even months! Use that to keep you going. :)

kingme said:
i dont really know how to repond.
my comment was more or less about people being usually overenthusiastic and a bit too hopeful about their goals and means to get there. weight loss is not easy for most people, in that we re usually talking about losing ~10% of someone s weight at least, and that requires a lot more dedication than people think, including permanent lifestyle changes.
losing 2kg a month and then putting it on again in winter or a few more months later doesnt mean anything. nor losing weight without thinking properly about diet, sleep, hydration, exercise. a lot of effort people put into weight loss is wasted and can even do more harm then good, which is why i think that people who really need to lose weight (obese BMI>30) should seek some form of help
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This goes for everything really, whether you are trying to lose or gain weight... it's about getting a balance between all those factors mentioned but, a consistent diet is probably the most important factor. If you are losing weight, it's better to be reducing your calories by like 10% rather than going on a crash diet, that in the end of the day will end & your eating habits will go back to how they were before. Of course exercise increases your calorie expenditure, so you need to keep up regularly with that too, or else when you stop you'll starting gaining again.

It's not easy but it's those lifestyle changes that are the most important. Get those right & over the long term you are much more likely to succeed in your goals. If you try to reach your goals in too short a time frame, then you just won't be able to keep up with it. Consistency is always the key.

My parents have found the 5:2 diet, i.e. essentially crash dieting two days a week, to be quite effective for weight loss. You end up wanting to eat less on the non-diet days since you eat such small portions on the diet days. I don't think it's necessarily better than other established diets & in many ways, it's just the popular diet at the moment but it does work if done properly.
 
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