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Toucan said:
I think if you bear through it you'll have a better trip next time
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Yeah you've probably got a point. Being better equipped (as in more experience) with dealing with bad trips would definitely always be a bonus. Still, if your taking them purely for recreation and not self-improvement, then a benzo is always handy
 
A benzo is always handy I am told an anti-psychotic is even better..Did Swampadelic not say that up there somewhere? When my friends and I in the late 80s as pretty young teenagers used to do LSD if anyone started freaking we gave them orange juice!!! God only knows who told us this and why we thought it was credible (nipping off for a google). However as we were only about 14/15 we did believe it and because we believed it implictly it did work as only a placebo can.

If it turns out there actually is any evidence for Vit C etc stopping a 'bad trip' I shall be back.

Oohh microdots..not seen one of them for a lifetime....daydreams...;)
 
It also seems that whilst being under the influence of acid (or any other psych for that matter) that the placebo effect is a lot stronger! One thing thats worked for me in the past, when i was with someone who was having a bad trip, was to give them a paracetamol or multi-vitamin or whatever and tell them its valium. Worked a right treat :)
 
I think that some of the best trips you can have are the 'bad' ones - i.e. they are usually the most intense, insightful, life changing experiences that you can have. They really dig into your soul and expose your deepest fears, forcing you to confront them and deal with them, often carrying over into the next few days, forcing you to totally re-evaluate everything you previously believed to be true about yourself and the universe. The one thing I really learned from many 'bad' or difficult experiences on mushrooms or acid was; 'never trip without some fuckin' benzos handy' ;)
 
Yeah, I also always have some benzos on hand when tripping. Don't remember the last time I had to use them (not counting for sleep after the trip is over but you still can't sleep) :)
 
anyone tried this yet N-MOB-5-APB or 5-apb-nbome The IUPAC name of this research compound is 1-(benzofuran-5-yl)-N-(2-methoxybenzyl)propan-2-amine meant to be a cross between nbome and 5abp
 
foolsgold said:
anyone tried this yet N-MOB-5-APB or 5-apb-nbome The IUPAC name of this research compound is 1-(benzofuran-5-yl)-N-(2-methoxybenzyl)propan-2-amine meant to be a cross between nbome and 5abp
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I was reading that it is barley active, and once past threshold dose barely noticeable, some one mentioned as well that it is probably pretty toxic.
 
Don't bother, the NBOMe attachment only works for the 2C series reliably. It doesn't work for MDA and is unlikely to work here. Doesn't even work for mescaline.
 
Yeah, I do wonder though - converting 5-APB-NBOMe back into 5-APB itself shouldn't be an incredibly difficult task should it? Maybe it'd be a good way to continue to sell banned substances to those who have a little chemistry knowledge and some time on their hands.

With the 25x-NBOMe series it obviously wasn't a viable conversion since they were more expensive and potent than their relevant 2C-x analogues, but since the amphetamine-NBOMes seem to at the very least be a lot weaker than their non-NBOMe derivatives, if not totally inactive, such a conversion might be worthwhile if you can get ahold of the NBOMe at a similar price to the original, and the original is now illegal.

Though for most people it would just make more sense to order whatever you're looking for illegally from another country anyway since it's easy enough.
 
Not exactly new but first time it's done anything at all when I've tried it so new to me... sampled some bk-2C-B t'other day. Tried it several times previously (first batch) and did literally nothing beyond burn like fuck via any RoA beside bombing. This time it worked (bombed - fuck risking any more delicate surfaces again 8(). Surprisingly "trippy" - in many ways "deeper" than 2C-B itself. Had an overall good trip from it and it lasts ages.

However, there is a major issue. I have never known any substance generate quite such severe GI distress. Makes aMT look gentle on the gut. Without getting too graphic about it, I was very, very glad to be at home alone and within 10yds of the bathroom. All. Fukkin. Day.

Trip was fine - surprisingly interesting actually - but nowhere near worth it for the utterly ridiculous level of gutrot involved.
 
Shambles said:
Not exactly new but first time it's done anything at all when I've tried it so new to me... sampled some bk-2C-B t'other day. Tried it several times previously (first batch) and did literally nothing beyond burn like fuck via any RoA beside bombing. This time it worked (bombed - fuck risking any more delicate surfaces again 8(). Surprisingly "trippy" - in many ways "deeper" than 2C-B itself. Had an overall good trip from it and it lasts ages.

However, there is a major issue. I have never known any substance generate quite such severe GI distress. Makes aMT look gentle on the gut. Without getting too graphic about it, I was very, very glad to be at home alone and within 10yds of the bathroom. All. Fukkin. Day.

Trip was fine - surprisingly interesting actually - but nowhere near worth it for the utterly ridiculous level of gutrot involved.
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I experienced zero discomfort from a 160mg bomb. Lasted for ages and was very enjoyable. Did have the worst headache of all times the day after, but very much worth it.
 
I got no gi distress from bk2cb and i enjoyed my 100mg experience on it. Not the best trip ever tough. Im struggling to find something to recommend it in stead of other chemicals out there... Id take this over a 25whatever anyday though... At least the dosing is done at acceptable levels
 
foolsgold said:
so no purple nose or fingers from it this time shambles
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Baggie was stained purple (on the papery section obviously) where it had been handled but didn't seem as extreme as the first batch. Given the first batch had no effect on me whatsoever (500mg in total) beyond extreme pain on whatever part of my body it happened to come into contact with I had (and have) no interest in bothering with the shonkily-synthed stuff again but gave it another go as there are apparently less shonkily-synthed batches floating about and as it was a freebie and appeared to be considerably less caustic than the first batch which was accepted (even by the vendor) as being a bit of a wrong 'un (somebody somewhere "forgot" to flush out the pH levels so was more or less (theoreticall psychedelic) drain cleaner).

Was certainly considerably better (as in the actually intended effects had an effect approximating what it should do on paper) and was most certainly less of a dog's dinner than the first attempt but was still way too ropey to ever consider using again. The effects just ain't anywhere close to being worth the side-effects and has been a notorious lottery whether it causes nothing but intense discomfort or not or even if works at all since it was put on the market. From what I can tell it could be a decent psyche if it was produced responsibly in a regulated indusrtry but that is not the case. Even by "grey market" RC standards the quality control seems abysmal for this one. At least when you buy the branded crap you know to expect anything and most likely it'll be pretty fukkin shocking in any number of ways but usually named chems have a certain reliability even if they're shite in terms of effects. This stuff is the other way around. Effects seem pretty good but (from the snippets I've gathered) the synth is a bit less straightforward and a bit more expensive to get right than most of what else is as widely available and most vendors don't give enough of a shit about what is in the baggie once they've paid for a bulk custom synth.

As always, clear example of why prohibition can never do anything but dig the hole deeper and scrape ever thinner and more splintery shards from the bottom of an already paper-thin barrel. People (as a species) are never going to stop wanting to change their consciousness from time to time (or all the time for some) so averaged out there will always be a market and when that market is not recognised and dealt with in a manner approproate to the very serious risk involved then that risk will become ever greater. And all that changes is that Heil readers get to feel a bit smugger and a bit more self-rigjhteous than usual when one of their moronic "campaigns" gets yet another relatively safe compound banned and replaced with a dozen far, far iffier ones each and every time.
 
Can't believe I've actually paid money for something that's marketed as 'modafiendz'. :\

Still, if it serves its purpose (gentle stimulation without edginess, euphoria or fiendishness) then I may have found a decent going out drug. It's hard to be sober when people are getting progressively less inhibited, but it's not much fun staying in and congratulating yourself on your sobriety, and unfortunately gouching out in public doesn't go down well with a lot of folk.

We'll see. I'm not holding my breath.
 
Is it just the Lithium that you take Sam that limits your choice of drugs?

Is it that'd itd be dangerous in a physical sense like taking MDMA on SSRIs or that'd it would just make your meds not work sufficiently?

I know you like LSD, is the reason you cant take that because of your meds or because psychs and mental health issues aren't the wisest of choices? Do you know whats safe interaction wise or are they just an educated guess? Must be a bit of a pisser but being well is certainly paramount. Don't mean to pry, just curious :) You're more than welcome to tell me to mind my own..

Hope the worming tablets work out for you anyway ;)=D
 
ScotchMist said:
Hope the worming tablets work out for you anyway ;)=D
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Get to fuck! =D

Yeah, lithium stops me from being able to take LSD, mushies or any other tryptamine for fear of a seizure, which I don't wanna risk for obvious reasons.

Other drugs aren't totally off the menu - I still enjoy gear and all the other opiates, but stims are a something I'm trying to avoid falling back into. Partly because they amplify my craziness like nothing else, and partly because lithium dampens their effects. Especially at the kind of dose I'm on (1000mg per day).

It sucks, but it beats being in hospital.
 
I always plugged it. Wouldn't dream of taking it any other way. Not that I'd rush to take it again, but I can see why some folk like it.

Never noticed a slow onset as such - how long are we talking?
 
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