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I'm uncertain if psychedelics would improve my life or not. Advice?

According to Stuart Macrobert you don't need to worry about finding movements for small muscles pmose - just do squats/deadlifts/pull-ups etc - big multi-muscle exercises.
 
If you have found a muscle from doing yoga that you have not worked out before then that is where the most gain can be found.
 
Does it strengthen your core to just tighten your stomach muscles throughout the day? My core is weak as shit and I really suffer for it. I find it painful and difficult to do most core exercises which is why I never stick to it.
 
Probably a little bit but not like exercise would do. Honestly if you stick with it for a little while you'll stop finding it painful and difficult. When I started working out, for about 3 weeks I had bad back pain afterwards, it was a push to get through but now I don't anymore and I just feel so much better. My posture is WAY better (which is super important) and my whole body is stronger, and I rarely get pains anymore in my back, and that used to be a big issue for me. I can also breathe better, before I started working out I'd feel like things were pressing on my lungs a bit, it was an uncomfortable feeling, like it was hard to pull a full breath.

Also your stomach is just one part of your core. Your core includes all of the muscles in your chest, back and abdomen. It's important to strengthen them all as otherwise you'll be out of balance with which muscles are stronger and they all play their parts.

It's totally worth the work. :) And now working out is one of my favorite parts of the day. I woke up late today (due to staying up later than normal) and I missed my early morning workout, I can't wait til work is done and I can get over there.
 
Ismene I know Stuart McRobert he is a good author. So is Brooks Kubik and John McCallum. Bradley Steiner had good tips and John Grimek, Steve Reeves, Tommy Kono, Doug Hepburn, Paul Anderson, Arthur Saxon, Thomas Inch and Reg Park all have good workouts. It's true, just do the big movements and you will grow. Squats, deadlifts, rows, presses, etc. Especially squats and deadlifts. They work all the major muscles and many of the smaller ones, including the stabilizers. Olympic movements like cleans and snatches are great too (just be sure to use good form). When that amount of muscle (especially the hips, legs and back), is hit hard, your body releases mounds of hormones like testosterone and HGH that make your whole body grow. There is no need to do smaller movements, they are a waste of time and energy and usually result in overtraining if added on to the big movements. Like pmoseman said, yoga is also great for the whole body, and he is also correct about walking or other cardio being good for losing fat and that is what creates definition, not "small" or "isolation" movements.

This thread is way off topic lol. Good convo though.
 
I haven't really been involved in this thread, but i just saw it and clicked to the second page, when did this become a thread about yoga and excersizing lolol
 
LOL I have no idea hahah. It's a good convo though. We probably should start a separate thread about this though and get back to the original topic.
 
Yeah let's get back to how psychedelics change people's lives for the better. Ok, keep sharing your personal stories. Thanks!
 
I actually just posted a trip report in the Trip Reports forum. 400 mg mescaline, 130 ug of LSD, 110 mg MDMA, and ~50 mg DMT all in one day. There was also ~5-10 grams Kratom and 10 mg Valium thrown in there when it got too intense at one point, namely when the MDMA kicked in. Overall it was pretty positive for the most part though. I had a day off so I figured I'd go all out. Long story short... everything was good except I should've taken less MDMA, it was way too intense when it kicked in, then I probably wouldn't have needed the Valium at all. Kratom was pretty minimal except at the very end of the night.

Ultimately, it reversed a bad trip I had over a year ago and I've felt great so far. The next day I was tired and a little spaced out, and had a headache, but now I'm fine and feel great. Definitely plan on taking another break for awhile now though. Oh and I was 2 and 1/2 hours late for work the next day lol. Oh well. I'm planning on quitting anyway soon enough. I've already achieved the general knowledge of ego-softening from tripping and have learned how to work at applying it to my every day life, so that was nothing new, but still a great reminder. The visuals were great though and in general it was quite the catharsis for me.
 
Every single psychedelic experience gives you an unprecedented chance to live in absurdly profound awareness of what is happening... for better or worse.

Sometimes it will make you a better person for months, years, or forever. Sometimes it will be challenging and, in my experience, will give you some challenges in the months ahead as you try to integrate your experience.

If you are not living in a place where you are battling for survival then fucking go for it. If you don't want to be challenged, then have a seat, softy, and leave it to the rest of us. Otherwise....waiting on this trip report. Peace and love my friend. :D
 
Psilocybin by itself is moderately toxic, as are certain foods preservatives, and anywhere near a moderate dose is not physically dangerous.

A poison mushroom can have longer waiting periods and the effects can sometimes last beyond one full day.

I would disagree with the optimistic claims that psilocybin mushrooms have no potential to be neurotoxic.

It seems psilocybin has more differences from LSD than most people realize, ie myself earlier. It is probably not a good idea to transfer negatives/positives from one to the other and, as such, I have found few if any studies from the earlier wave of psilocybin research and can't say much about current research being done.

Psilocybin for depression on web md.

If you believe there can be these long lasting positive benefits from the experience, I would assume certain adverse psychological effects (bad stuff) could linger for just as long.
 
What I find beneficial about psychs is that life is very monotonous when you never have any major alterations of consciousness and psychs definitely cause major alterations. You can't get that kind of contrast from normal life from other types of drugs really. It's also sort of a traumatic event sometimes and traumatic events can bring about changes in how you view life. It's kind of a rite of passage you might say. You go through the trauma of your world being dramatically altered and you can grow from that. Stressful situations in normal life no longer seem like that big a deal after you've survived your world being morphed around you. It can be too much for some people though. At lower doses I guess it just provides some entertainment, like going to a movie but the movie is in your mind and all around you.
 
The theory I heard from a protege? of David Nutt is that psilocybin takes mechanisms in the mind that work in synchronicity and disjoins them, so you might see how they fit together, which you are now privy to doing yourself during a meditation. An action that can break depression.

Even so, if that is not the cause of your problem then psilocybin may only be truly capable of doing harm in the long term.
 
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pmoseman said:
Psilocybin by itself is moderately toxic, as are certain foods preservatives, and anywhere near a moderate dose is not physically dangerous.

A poison mushroom can have longer waiting periods and the effects can sometimes last beyond one full day.

I would disagree with the optimistic claims that psilocybin mushrooms have no potential to be neurotoxic.

It seems psilocybin has more differences from LSD than most people realize, ie myself earlier. It is probably not a good idea to transfer negatives/positives from one to the other and, as such, I have found few if any studies from the earlier wave of psilocybin research and can't say much about current research being done.

Psilocybin for depression on web md.

If you believe there can be these long lasting positive benefits from the experience, I would assume certain adverse psychological effects (bad stuff) could linger for just as long.
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I've never heard of psilocybin being considered moderately toxic, as there has never been proof of long-term physiological damage in any way - not from what I have seen anyway, so I'm not sure I agree with that. If you can find any sort of scientific literature that demonstrates any possible neurotoxicity of psilocybin, I'd be interested to read about it, though at the moment I'm can't say I buy it. Of course, there is the argument that EVERYTHING can be harmful in a large enough dose, even things like water and oxygen. But one has to consider the practicality of consuming a large enough dose, of whatever it is. With psilocybin, any level of noticeable toxicity seems very unlikely. I do agree with it having the potential of possibly causing long-term psychological distress however, if one were to have a bad trip. One can't deny that. That's why set and setting, along with frequency of use, and yes, dose as well, are generally considered very important.

I am not really a fan of WedMD either, as they seem to have a habit of making something like the common cold sound as malicious as Ebola.

For example:

“It is not a cure all. It is certainly a difficult experience. This is not something people are going to abuse and do all the time because it is not fun,” psychotherapist and psychedelic-research advocate Neal M. Goldsmith, PhD, recently told me.

^I can;t agree with that statement at all. If it did not have the potential to be fun, people would not be using it recreationally to the extent that they do. I do agree with it when he says it is not a cure-all though. That part definitely rings true. A lot of people seem to glorify its potential in that respect.

In any case, I myself have has difficult experiences, along with glowing experiences. I have also had instances where a good trip reversed any psychological distress from a previously experienced bad trip. So it is all subjective and unique from person to person and experience to experience. As far as physical harm? I can't agree at all that it is even close to moderately toxic. Psychologically risky, yes, possibly; but toxic? No.
 
Recently I did mushrooms for the first time (6g). Before I was an unhappy person, sort of depressed but mostly just really bottled up inside. Go back 5 years and I wouldn't have been able to readily identify emotions in myself but now I feel very aware of my current emotional state. I don't think I would've reached the happy/peaceful place I'm at without psychedelics. Definitely would say psychedelics are useful for therapy more and more studies are coming out everyday on MDMA therapy for vets as well.
 
whiteroom67 said:
I've never heard of psilocybin being considered moderately toxic, as there has never been proof of long-term physiological damage in any way - not from what I have seen anyway, so I'm not sure I agree with that. If you can find any sort of scientific literature that demonstrates any possible neurotoxicity of psilocybin, I'd be interested to read about it, though at the moment I'm can't say I buy it. Of course, there is the argument that EVERYTHING can be harmful in a large enough dose, even things like water and oxygen. But one has to consider the practicality of consuming a large enough dose, of whatever it is. With psilocybin, any level of noticeable toxicity seems very unlikely. I do agree with it having the potential of possibly causing long-term psychological distress however, if one were to have a bad trip. One can't deny that. That's why set and setting, along with frequency of use, and yes, dose as well, are generally considered very important.
I am not really a fan of WedMD either, as they seem to have a habit of making something like the common cold sound as malicious as Ebola.

For example:

“It is not a cure all. It is certainly a difficult experience. This is not something people are going to abuse and do all the time because it is not fun,” psychotherapist and psychedelic-research advocate Neal M. Goldsmith, PhD, recently told me.

^I can;t agree with that statement at all. If it did not have the potential to be fun, people would not be using it recreationally to the extent that they do. I do agree with it when he says it is not a cure-all though. That part definitely rings true. A lot of people seem to glorify its potential in that respect.

In any case, I myself have has difficult experiences, along with glowing experiences. I have also had instances where a good trip reversed any psychological distress from a previously experienced bad trip. So it is all subjective and unique from person to person and experience to experience. As far as physical harm? I can't agree at all that it is even close to moderately toxic. Psychologically risky, yes, possibly; but toxic? No.
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Well, I've read comments from Native Americans who use shrooms regularly and they say that it can indeed induce madness in some. Oddly, they have also said that it makes you age more rapidly, or I suppose LOOK old sooner. I can see it inducing madness. I've had some rough trips on it where I really did feel like I had gone completely mad and thought I might stay that way. A trip like that could push some people over the edge permanently, I would think. It's really not one of my favorite drugs. I have a healthy respect for it.

I think the shrooms make psilocybin to stop people (and animals) from eating them. I got their message loud and clear. I just leave them to grow now. I have an aversion to them after numerous bad trips. Just the thought of the taste practically makes me gag. I doubt if I could even eat them again. I guess I associate the taste with the negative effects I experienced. I far prefer LSD. I live in a place where shrooms grow wild (Liberty Caps). You can hardly sell them here because nobody likes them.
 
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That's weird, most people I know love mushrooms (who are into psychedelics). I can see mushrooms causing someone to go mad as well, if they're prone to that (and shouldn't be doing psychedelics). But that does not equate to neurotoxicity.

Mushrooms make me nervous as well, they're a very powerful thing.
 
Xorkoth said:
That's weird, most people I know love mushrooms (who are into psychedelics). I can see mushrooms causing someone to go mad as well, if they're prone to that (and shouldn't be doing psychedelics). But that does not equate to neurotoxicity.

Mushrooms make me nervous as well, they're a very powerful thing.
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Well, maybe it was just the people I associated with who didn't like them that much. It was mostly due to the rough initial stages which often include nausea. I haven't tried selling them recently. This was back in the early 80s I'm talking about. I do know some people who seem to enjoy them. For me though, just too many negatives from past experiences for me to ever want to use them again. Feeling like you're in Hell is a little hard to forget, and feeling completely insane, albeit temporarily. At the time, you don't know if it's temporary or not. You're just in a very scary place and nothing makes sense anymore and you just want to get back to normal again, which seems very far away at the time.

Shrooms were the scariest thing I ever experienced, aside from maybe Salvia. They both scared the hell out of me. I remember on one particular shroom trip I was thinking "this has gone so far from the real world that it's impossible for it to go back again, because that would require a sudden shift from this reality to a completely different one". At the time I was thinking that there was no way to follow the trail of bread crumbs back to the real world again because I had just gone too far away. But, of course, I did gradually return to it. But those are the kind of mental states you can get into on shrooms. Eventually I just decided that it wasn't worth it for a cheap buzz. Shrooms in fairly high doses are serious, serious stuff, make no mistake about it, anyone reading this. Shrooms are not to be trifled with. They are a powerful being and they can punish you dearly if they find your motives less than worthy. They can tear your world apart, trust me.

Shrooms, at least Libery Caps, are very easy to spot growing, with their distinctive bell shape and the large patches they grow in and the fact that they turn light colored as they dry in the sun. It's like they're saying "look at me, I'm right here. I dare you". To me, I got the feeling sometimes on them that Satan had planted them in the world to trick us into getting us under his control. I don't believe that now but when on them I really did get that impression sometimes. I could really feel Satan coming for me through the shrooms. As I said, scary as Hell, literally. Not trying to frighten people or anything, but yeah, it can get pretty intense sometimes. I have to avoid them so that Satan can't gain access to my mind. One moment of weakness is all it takes. Oh look at the lovely mushrooms, so pretty. Do not even THINK about it. Well, unless you're a fate tempting sort.
 
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That's true enough, it certainly can induce madness. Especially in certain people who are predisposed to mental illness/disorder. It doesn't mean it certainly will though, everyone is different. But I know what you're saying though jason... I myself have had some trips where I have gone "mad" and over the edge as well... looping thoughts of fearful and anxious thoughts that made me scared that it would not go away after the trip was over. But at the same time, afterwards, it always did (with mushrooms), and I realized whatever it was they were trying to show me (one trip I am thinking of in particular for example, was focused on the shitty relationship I have with my father). It was certainly what one could consider a "bad trip", but it helped me re-evaluate certain things about myself and my father that I integrated into my life and perceptions long after the trip was over, and ultimately had a positive effect long-term as it forced me to see thing from his perspective easier, and re-evaluate the reasons behind the condition of our relationship, and hence my own life choices/habits as well.

It wasn't comfortable, and a lot of people would not have been able to handle it. I wasn't expecting it either, because it was a very low dose that I took that day, so it totally caught me off guard and I was like WTF...

Then again I've had low doses of mushrooms mixed with alcohol and Kratom while partying and all it did was enhance the intimacy and connection I felt with everyone else at the party. Every trip truly is different, and mushrooms are very powerful indeed. Definitely more of a potential mindfuck than LSD. Again, this doesn't mean they are toxic though, at least not in the typical physical sense. If you want to use the word "toxic" metaphorically in a way that includes anything negative (i.e. toxic people in your life), then I guess you could consider them potentially toxic to your well-being in that sense, but that's different.

I wouldn't agree though that shrooms have psilocybin solely to discourage people from eating them because that then begs the questions, why do they have psilocybin at all? If we weren't meant to eat the mushrooms because they have psilocybin, they wouldn't have it, or, it would have a much more consistently negative effect. Just my analysis of the situation.
 
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