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black53 said:
i've tried both and found 6-MAPB to be very similar to 5-MAPB. The difference between them is (at least for me) much less than the difference between 5 and 6 apb.

Did you try the 5-mapb combo that's often recommended here?
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Thanks, good to know. What combo is that?
 
50-100mg 5-mapb, 25mg 2-fma, 5 mg 4-ho-met/5-meo-mipt (should work with other 4-ho/4-aco trypts too, not sure about the 5-meos).

it's a few pages back + an explanation why.
 
mozokev said:
J.Wallace, I have used IV heroin on the comedown of MDMA and 6-APB, and I greatly enjoyed it. As transformer said, the heroin will take a lot away from the experience so it's best to use on the tail end. Also, I would take it easy with the amount and frequency that you are using this.

Personally, I was surprised to find that I was not that impressed with 5-MAPB. 75-150mg doses on separate occasions did not bring as much euphoria as I was hoping (compared to 6-APB or MDMA), just an intense body high and a lot of sweating. However, I did find 5-MAPB useful when combined with 6-APB and/or MDMA, as it intensified the entire experience (euphoria included). I'm not sure if this is because they are supposed to be interact more with DAT than 5-MAPB, which has more affinity for SERT. Although I'm sure their pharmacodynamics are vastly more complex than their Ki values, and that personal preference also plays a large part.

This brings me to my question. Recently, I have seen 6-MAPB offered from several different vendors but I have yet to find any recent threads with comparisons to other serotonin releasing agents. Does 6-MAPB follow the same trend as 6-APB vs 5-APB, that is having more affinity for dopamine vs. serotonin, respectively?
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I was thinking of IV'ing only on the very tail end. I was considering dosing with my girlfriend, who also IV's. Being one who is VERY strict about the importance of HR, I wouldn't dare IV on the peak or even when coming down but only on the very tail end, thinking of it as a nice closer to a day of stimulating euphoria. Just to clear up any confusion some may have by reading my posts, I would not be IV'ing the mapb, just the H. Also, to reiterate on my previous post, I am a 2 - 3 times a week user of H, not mapb. I haven't touched 5-mapb since April.

As for your question about 6-mapb, from everything I've read, it has certainly been hyped up. In essence, it is just like 5-mapb, only from what I understand and am told by fellow experienced researchers, it should in theory be even grander.

Me personally, I find 5-mapb to be hands down the best stimulant I've ever tried. I'm not a stimulant guy by any means, I honestly have no interest in being stimulated, however this stuff floored me, so much to the point that I kept redosing, which is how I ended up going through a G in one afternoon once. Terribly moronic and not smart at all, however it was a grand experience to say the least. And believe it or not, I didn't even experience a crash or that bad of negative side effects during or after. Some slight tuesday blues, however nothing a bowl or two of some nice piff wouldn't help with, from what I remember it wasn't anywhere near as bad as some of the shit rolls I've taken during my youth.
 
It's a bit more stimulating and that's mostly that. The difference is much lower than 5&6 apb.
 
black53 said:
50-100mg 5-mapb, 25mg 2-fma, 5 mg 4-ho-met/5-meo-mipt (should work with other 4-ho/4-aco trypts too, not sure about the 5-meos).

it's a few pages back + an explanation why.
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That sounds like it could be one hell of a combination. I don't have 2-fma, only 3-fa but I have 5-meo-mipt and 4-ho-mipt. I'd imagine it would be comparable substituting the 3-fa and it would probably give me what I'm looking for.

J.Wallace said:
I was thinking of IV'ing only on the very tail end. I was considering dosing with my girlfriend, who also IV's. Being one who is VERY strict about the importance of HR, I wouldn't dare IV on the peak or even when coming down but only on the very tail end, thinking of it as a nice closer to a day of stimulating euphoria. Just to clear up any confusion some may have by reading my posts, I would not be IV'ing the mapb, just the H. Also, to reiterate on my previous post, I am a 2 - 3 times a week user of H, not mapb. I haven't touched 5-mapb since April.

As for your question about 6-mapb, from everything I've read, it has certainly been hyped up. In essence, it is just like 5-mapb, only from what I understand and am told by fellow experienced researchers, it should in theory be even grander.

Me personally, I find 5-mapb to be hands down the best stimulant I've ever tried. I'm not a stimulant guy by any means, I honestly have no interest in being stimulated, however this stuff floored me, so much to the point that I kept redosing, which is how I ended up going through a G in one afternoon once. Terribly moronic and not smart at all, however it was a grand experience to say the least. And believe it or not, I didn't even experience a crash or that bad of negative side effects during or after. Some slight tuesday blues, however nothing a bowl or two of some nice piff wouldn't help with, from what I remember it wasn't anywhere near as bad as some of the shit rolls I've taken during my youth.
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My apologies, I completely misunderstood and thought you were using 5-mapb 2-3 times per week. lol

I don't believe you'd run into any problems mixing H and 5-mapb, IMHO, whether it was during the peak or comedown or tail end. I find injecting H after any stimulant is nice, just expect it to overpower whatever you feel before, depending on the size of your dose.

Thanks for shedding the light on 6-mapb for me!
 
I overdid the 5-MAPB combination with 2-FMA and 5-MeO-MiPT a bit on Saturday. 110 mg total 5-MAPB (80 mg initial dose, 30 mg booster 2 hours in) was a little too much for my size (53 kg). It was lots of fun but I lost the ability to recognize people's faces and felt really delirious during the second half of the roll. Peak was 5 hours long though, which was excellent. I've never had a high dose of MDMA but it sounds like this pretty much matched what happens there...

I feel a bit like an alien or something even today, and definitely did a number on my serotonin levels and general state of being, as I felt very tender and sad yesterday and smoking cannabis made me feel "spooked" like I had just been watching a horror movie. I also crave shit-talk, conversation and bonding and have been messaging tons of people just to talk.
 
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i need some help, i took about 10 to 15 mgs just to try it, and i felt something even from that, but it gave me high anxiety, a slight headache and some stimulation. all in all bad side effects even from 15 mg. Should i even try the regular dose? at this dose it reminded me of a anti depressant. im wondering if you need a 50 or more dose to make it feel like 6,apb or will it just totally tweak me out and make me manic any help would be nice.
 
XTC4Life said:
i need some help, i took about 10 to 15 mgs just to try it, and i felt something even from that, but it gave me high anxiety, a slight headache and some stimulation. all in all bad side effects even from 15 mg. Should i even try the regular dose? at this dose it reminded me of a anti depressant. im wondering if you need a 50 or more dose to make it feel like 6,apb or will it just totally tweak me out and make me manic any help would be nice.
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Did you test your product? Remember these RC's technically "aren't for human consumption" so if you die it's not safer than buying "ecstasy" off the street.. in fact the relationship vendors have is less personal than a face to face transaction unfortunately. They can kill you without seeing you or knowing what a great person you are...
 
I found this compound to be very short-lived, the peak lasting something like 3 hours at most, do you people agree? To the ones who have tried the combo (+ 2-FMA, + tryptamine), do you think that the 2-FMA helps to extend the duration of the trip and make the comedown smoother?
 
Torresmo said:
I found this compound to be very short-lived, the peak lasting something like 3 hours at most, do you people agree? To the ones who have tried the combo (+ 2-FMA, + tryptamine), do you think that the 2-FMA helps to extend the duration of the trip and make the comedown smoother?
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I agree that 5-mapb seems very short lived. I would say that it's a good 5 hours before I'm totally baseline, but 3 hours is about right for the peak IMO.

I just got 2-fma this week, so I'll hopefully be able to try out the combo this weekend and report my results.
 
Two to three hours for the comeup and peak sounds about right to me, but I don't know if I would call it short lived; compared to the x-APBs perhaps, but I haven't ever found myself really wanting for more (especially if I follow up with a small booster dose about an hour in).

From my experience, I would expect a minimum of five hours for a 100% return to baseline. However, I do agree that the majority of primary effects would have worn off by the five or six hour mark.

The comedown from 5-MAPB on its own seems quite smooth to me. The addition of 2-FMA will definitely leave you feeling stimulated for longer, but in my opinion this actually makes the comedown less smooth (more jaw clenching, teeth grinding, anorexia, difficulty sleeping). YMMV.
 
InterestingFACT said:
I agree that 5-mapb seems very short lived. I would say that it's a good 5 hours before I'm totally baseline, but 3 hours is about right for the peak IMO.

I just got 2-fma this week, so I'll hopefully be able to try out the combo this weekend and report my results.
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Yes, please report!

MundaneDivinity said:
Two to three hours for the comeup and peak sounds about right to me, but I don't know if I would call it short lived; compared to the x-APBs perhaps, but I haven't ever found myself really wanting for more (especially if I follow up with a small booster dose about an hour in).

From my experience, I would expect a minimum of five hours for a 100% return to baseline. However, I do agree that the majority of primary effects would have worn off by the five or six hour mark.

The comedown from 5-MAPB on its own seems quite smooth to me. The addition of 2-FMA will definitely leave you feeling stimulated for longer, but in my opinion this actually makes the comedown less smooth (more jaw clenching, teeth grinding, anorexia, difficulty sleeping). YMMV.
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I tried 5-mapb twice, and didn't like the comedown. I felt waves of anxiety and at this time I lost all my empathy, because that amazing feeling was going away. I felt this in the comedown of almost every empathogen i tried.
One exception was 5-APB, it gave me the smoothest comedown ever! It also lasted a lot longer than 5-mapb, so I was thinking, maybe a longer duration means a smoother comedown? Maybe i'm wrong, but I have the impression that the frustration of the trip ending so soon plays a big part on having a bad comedown.
 
Torresmo said:
Yes, please report!.
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Well, my experiment this weekend got a bit derailed, unfortunately. None of my friends were using any substances (other than a tiny bit of weed briefly), and one of my friends was worried about anyone appearing impaired in front of his parents.

In advance for the weekend, I had prepared a capsule containing 100mg 5-mapb, 20mg 2fma, 2mg 5-meo-mipt, 3mg 4-aco-dmt, 3mg noopept, 3mg sunifiram.

The noopept and sunifiram are nonspecific potentiators, but I had some concerns about the safety of combining sunifiram with stimulants so kept the dosage very very low.

Anyways, because I didn't want to be too fucked up around (mostly) sober friends, I took 1/3 of the capsule at 10 pm, before going to a movie (guardians of the galaxy), another 1/4 or so later during the movie at around 12 midnight, and then finished the cap at 1:30am.

As such I never felt the full effects of the originally described dosage, but rather kept myself going at a mild buzz. All in all it was very pleasant--I was feeling chatty, subtle waves pleasure, pleasant tingling feeling all over my body (from the mipt I would guess), significant color enhancement, random emotional connection/empathizing with people, the movie, etc.

All in all it was a great experience, though of course mild because of the dosage schedule. We ended up sitting in my friends back patio with a fire going till 3:30am or so. It's 4:30 am now, and we're winding down for the night. I'm still feeling pretty stimulated. But the other effects are mostly gone. I took 1mg etizolam to calm me down/get me in a state where sleep is possible. Hopefully I won't have to take more.

Because of the staggered dosing, I can't really comment on the duration question I originally set out to answer. I would say the desirable effects lasted until 3-3:30. Actually the stimulation I'm feeling now is still pleasant--just in the speedy 2fma way only. Anyways, that would be 6.5hours from the first ~33mg dose at 10, but just 3 hours after the last dose. I imagine I will still be feeling stimulant effects in the morning when I wake up. Judging by 2fma's usual duration. I've heard a bad report or two about usig 2fa instead, but I think it would be much better to find a shorter acting stimulant to pair with the other here--2-fma is just too long-lasting.

EDIT: it's now 11:30 the next morning, and I can confirm I'm still feeling pretty stimulated. I fell asleep just fine, but who knows how restful that sleep was under the influence of the 2fma. I suppose I'll find out when the 2fma finally wears off.
 
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So there's a general consensus that 5-MAPB is a little lacking without a stimulant added like 2FA,2FMA, d-amp, but what about plain ol' caffeine? Any positive experiences from the combo? Some of my best ecstasy experiences were pills that had MDMA and caffeine as the only active ingredients.
 
Ordered 5 g of this site which is pretty reputable, no darknet or anything, and got about 4 gs. Might complain but the product looked incretibdly pure, i know looks dont mean everything, but it seriosuly looked nice, almost like little clear sand or salt, but see through cystals, transparent not cloudy. there were no rocks or shards, but uniform sand size pieces, ill take a pick one im not rolling anymore.

I have to say this stuff is fantasitc.
I dosed 100mg at 6:00p and a 40mg booster at 7.30. i still kinda feel the roll now at 4am.

Ive eaten at least 200 e pills in mt life between 99 and 2009 so i know how recognize the feel. Lovey dovey, mongy. could go to sleep on it. Not very visual but i day rolled and didnt have the chance to get glow sitx
 
LSDiesel said:
Ordered 5 g of this site which is pretty reputable, no darknet or anything, and got about 4 gs. Might complain but the product looked incretibdly pure, i know looks dont mean everything, but it seriosuly looked nice, almost like little clear sand or salt, but see through cystals, transparent not cloudy. there were no rocks or shards, but uniform sand size pieces, ill take a pick one im not rolling anymore.

I have to say this stuff is fantasitc.
I dosed 100mg at 6:00p and a 40mg booster at 7.30. i still kinda feel the roll now at 4am.

Ive eaten at least 200 e pills in mt life between 99 and 2009 so i know how recognize the feel. Lovey dovey, mongy. could go to sleep on it. Not very visual but i day rolled and didnt have the chance to get glow sitx
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How would you compare 100mg 5-mapb to 150mg mdma? Besides lasting longer.
 
Shuold cocaine be avoided while taking 5-MAPB? If it helps, 5'11" 170lbs and dose about 100mg 5-MAPB.

Thanks.
 
Yes, cocaine is a reuptake inhibitor so will block some of the effects of 5-MAPB (or any other releasing agent).
 
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