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General Methadone Discussion v. Why the Hell Not?

ohshea said:
Id like to know what they told you if you could fill us in, hopefully it was in your favor
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I stopped at the other clinic at 5am and was told they don't open till 6:30am. That ain't gonna work for me when I go back to day shift so I haven't even inquired about switching
 
I am currently going through methadone withdrawals. Will take a 7.5 mg hydrocodone prolong my withdrawals?
 
^Not enuff info but if you've been on any maintance dose for a while and jumped off you might not even feel it.Depends on how long you've been off the done too.But I wouldn't worry about taking one pill to get a short break from the WD. Really,not enough info given to make an educated guess.
 
Welderman said:
I stopped at the other clinic at 5am and was told they don't open till 6:30am. That ain't gonna work for me when I go back to day shift so I haven't even inquired about switching
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A clinic that doesnt open until 630? ¿da fuq? Lazy ass bums
 
^ I know that's some bullshit. I'm pretty sure they are open till 7pm but that don't really help me.
 
methadone clincic here I come.. never thought I'd say that!

thats right, I am off to the methadone clinic! I never thought Id say but that I have finally given in to dope; it has me by the dick and wont let go! whats funny is this is the BEST Ive been in a LONG time but I am finally given in and went to the clinic today to sign up and start the paper work! I am hoping to get in quick but I am doing OK w/ the dope as of late; I kicked the physical withdrawal but mentally I am still strapped; I went 7 days w/ ZIP and then 3 days pretty hard doing a G+ a day shooting. now I am DEAD BROKE again and trying to get to the clinic ASAP! use bupe today to get me through the day and have enough for the next few days till HOPEFULLY I start the clinic.

how long does is it take to get going? all I did was paperwork today and she told me she will call me in a day or two.

what do they usually start you off at? I was shooting a G or so a day, so what dosage would I want to be at? if they start small how quick do they increase? you'd think being a dope fiend for as long as I have I'd know more about done but I never got into it or decided to go down that road; last time I "tried" recovery I went 6 solid months on subs before using.
 
Usually they start at 30mg and increase by 10 or so every day for a few days. Everytime I went to the clinic I was dosed the day I did the intake. You will probably use for a week or so after you start. Then you will notice that you can go a day or 2 at time without using.
 
you'll think ill use on top of my dose just because the done is not taking me off E? I am legit broke as fuck and have no ways of obtaining ANY cash so this is part of the reason why. then again, ive always come up w/ money somehow, right? I am hoping I dont need it.
 
I don't know how it works in your state but here you dose the same day you sign up, takes a couple of hours to complete the paper work. You start off at 30mg and can go up by 5 everyday, past a certain amount of mgs you have to get counselor's approval. The clinic randomly drug tests you, being positive for anything is very much frowned upon but benzos is the biggest no-no. I personally had to beg not to get kicked after testing positive for benzos and coke. Some people at the clinic will wave the ridiculous amount of mgs they're taking like a prize, and some really need it to hold them down. But I'd recommend staying as low dosage wise as you comfortably can.

I've been on both methadone and suboxone maintenance and I really try to steer people away from methadone clinic. But that's my personal opinion and I'm not trying to discourage you from doing what you're doing. Both suboxone and methadone are good for one who is truly seeking change. I wasn't truly looking to change, and once I realized that I'm not getting high off methadone and I take enough of methadone to render other opiates useless I went crazy with benzos and crack. Just sharing my experience, wish you luck.
 
my last OD (hospitalized OD) was back in August; I started Suboxone treatment from there at 16MG/day and ran good for 6-7 months. toward the end I started to taper thinking I would be able to kick but ended up going back to the dope and getting kicked out the Suboxone program. now it's too much effort to start back up and take a bit longer before getting back on Suboxone and methadone just seems the easier, more reliable way out right now. I dont PLAN on staying on forever but it sure as hell beats the $100+ I spend on my habit.

why do you steer people away from the clinic? ill be honest, the user in me wants to hit the mathadone clinic to feel the "high" rather than what I got from Suboxone.
 
Its usually take a month or 2 here in Canada and in the states I imagine it would be longer..it's not the place to go when your dope sick and need a fix they can't take every addict coming in sick it would be too much.

Here I went in to the methadone/suboxone clinic dope sick as fuck and they refused to help me they said I'll make a appointment for 1 month from now so you can get a physical done then you need to wait another month to be accepted. I freaked out said I'm hooking up a chain to an ATM and ripping it out of the wall lol my mom was there too with me begging then to help me before I do some thing stupid but they refused.
I went to the hospital where ethey gave me a script for oxycodone since i do have actual chronic pain and the guy was nice I told him I went to the clinic and they turned me away and that I can't wait much longer like this I've been sick for days cold turkey amd im sick of this life i want into detox but i cant wait all sick and he gave me a script right away which kept me well till detox. They got me in as a rush urgent case at detox and they started me on suboxone in the detox and set me up with a doctor for when I got out of there at the methadone/suboxne clinic in only a weeks time which was a lot Better than 2 months I guess if your in detox they can get you in the methadone/sub clinic really fast.
 
Don't listen do what works for you people who say sub's are sooo much better than Meth are misinformed. Its a good thing brother subocne/methadone its all the same thing.

Methadone won't get you high either you may feel it less than suboxone actually well I found it to be that way anyways low dose bupe gets me buzzing way Better than methadone can.
But you were taking 16mgs so I bet you didn't feel nothing but SHITTY on that high a dose of bupe so the Meth will give you a bit of a euphoric boost the first few hours you take it but that goes away for most quickly and you just get constipation and lethargic from high dose methadone after a while and your out of breath making your bed so try to find aslodse that works good but doesn't make you too noddy as that nod will become a very shitty feeling soon ,your gut will be all fucked up and you will look retarded like you need a drool tray lol
 
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def. dont take a month or two at the done clinic; everyone I talk to says its happens within days. when I last got scripted Suboxone it took an OD, a pscy ward, and a Dr. note to get me on Suboxone, so I am not going through that again. I even called my past Suboxone Dr. trying to reschedule something and the guy was basically brushing me off. last time I was w/ him for about 6 months before I start to piss dirty, dirty, and MORE dirty, and eventually just stopped going. now I come crawling back and he doesnt put up the hand to help; eh, I dont blame him. I would piss dirty and just lie to the guy as if it was normal. must have been the junkie in me.
 
BostonBrownTown said:
why do you steer people away from the clinic? ill be honest, the user in me wants to hit the mathadone clinic to feel the "high" rather than what I got from Suboxone.
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Since you have opiate experience, you'll be disappointed. It's not much of a high, if you do feel anything, it'll in the first few days, they take you up slow enough to the point where you don't really feel the increase. Not feeling high is also partially attributed to the substance that methadone happens to be.

This is not a universal fact, but methadone clinic, for a lot of people turns into the place to go dose, score some benzos and nod for the rest of the day. You get into "methadone slump," at least that's what they call it around here. I'm not saying that this is going to be you. I'm just sharing my experience.

Like I said in my previous post, I'm not trying to discourage you from the MMT, I'd rather someone doses at the clinic than doing shady shit trying to score dope.
 
d1ahp said:
Since you have opiate experience, you'll be disappointed. It's not much of a high, if you do feel anything, it'll in the first few days, they take you up slow enough to the point where you don't really feel the increase. Not feeling high is also partially attributed to the substance that methadone happens to be.

This is not a universal fact, but methadone clinic, for a lot of people turns into the place to go dose, score some benzos and nod for the rest of the day. You get into "methadone slump," at least that's what they call it around here. I'm not saying that this is going to be you. I'm just sharing my experience.

Like I said in my previous post, I'm not trying to discourage you from the MMT, I'd rather someone doses at the clinic than doing shady shit trying to score dope.
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I am coming off a decent run and I am broke as fuck; so scoring dope//getting money for dope is going to get tough/whacky. ill be first to admit, if I had the $$ and could use forever and a day, then I would most likely be doing that, but I am going broke and putting myself in a fucking hole and a half. already had a ton of BAD shitting happen to me because of addiction and not looking for more at this point, which is why I want to get to the clinic. I tried rehab and to get clean before and came out on the bottom; I dont have time to go down that road again. I am willing to give the clinic a chance and see how this plays out. it seems I hear nothing but bad things but I just look at what I am up to daily and it is nothing but bad things as is, so why not do something thats legal for once.

I look back when I was using bupe and I actually was happy, living a good life, and enjoying life; I dont understand why/how I ended up back on dope.. but oh well, and now the Suboxone is just too tough/long/costly to start, so I gotta take the quick/cheap way out.
 
BostonBrownTown said:
I am coming off a decent run and I am broke as fuck; so scoring dope//getting money for dope is going to get tough/whacky. ill be first to admit, if I had the $$ and could use forever and a day, then I would most likely be doing that, but I am going broke and putting myself in a fucking hole and a half. already had a ton of BAD shitting happen to me because of addiction and not looking for more at this point, which is why I want to get to the clinic. I tried rehab and to get clean before and came out on the bottom; I dont have time to go down that road again. I am willing to give the clinic a chance and see how this plays out. it seems I hear nothing but bad things but I just look at what I am up to daily and it is nothing but bad things as is, so why not do something thats legal for once.

I look back when I was using bupe and I actually was happy, living a good life, and enjoying life; I dont understand why/how I ended up back on dope.. but oh well, and now the Suboxone is just too tough/long/costly to start, so I gotta take the quick/cheap way out.
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I think you'll do great. Methadone can be a great tool for someone looking to get out of the street cycle. Don't feel guilty about going to MMT, it certainly wasn't my intention to bring doubt into what you're trying to do. At the end of the day, suboxone or methadone, it doesn't matter as long as you want to get better, which you obviously do.
 
dude, I am one of those who dont have any other option besides doing MORE illegal things. somehow managed to make rent payments, car payments and phone payments, but other than that, I dont have a fucking dollar to my name. everyday I was taking $100 out of that ATM and spending it on a G (I say it as its the past but it was 3 days ago). been taking suboxone the last few days and hoping to be able to get on the clinic while taking the suboxone and not having to go back to the dope. shit had me by the balls long enough and just want to end this run; I am just chasing that high and NOT getting what I want. I am at the point where I am just embarrassed to be buying pins at CVS; they look at me knowing I am a true junkbox.
 
BostonBrownTown said:
dude, I am one of those who dont have any other option besides doing MORE illegal things. somehow managed to make rent payments, car payments and phone payments, but other than that, I dont have a fucking dollar to my name. everyday I was taking $100 out of that ATM and spending it on a G (I say it as its the past but it was 3 days ago). been taking suboxone the last few days and hoping to be able to get on the clinic while taking the suboxone and not having to go back to the dope. shit had me by the balls long enough and just want to end this run; I am just chasing that high and NOT getting what I want. I am at the point where I am just embarrassed to be buying pins at CVS; they look at me knowing I am a true junkbox.
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Unfortunately, sometimes we have to face the consequences of our actions. I don't mean to be stern, I sincerely hope things work out well for you. Do you have enough suboxone to last you a while?
 
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