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How does MDA degrade over time? Does it oxidize and turn into something else?

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In 2012, I got some lightning bolts. Really solid MDA, great, sweaty, stoney, shit-eating-grin time. I kept just a few for later use.

Two years later, I tried it again. Great initial experience, but then it got dark and paranoid at the peak, mostly due to a set / setting interruption. Little paranoid blurps going off in my head, like how the helicopters flying above me totally knew what I was doing, etc. Pulse racing at 140 bpm. Suuuper sweaty, swallowing felt like I had playdough in my mouth. I was able to keep it from going full-on bad trip, and just watched some TV and chilled out. But it took several hours.

This has never happened on MDMA, not matter what the set / setting. But this is also the only time I've ever taken old pills.

My question is whether or not MDA (or MDMA) degrades to a different chemical over 2 years. If not, how does it degrade? How long will it still be good?

Also, is MDA simply less predictable than MDMA? Does it have a higher potential to turn ugly if the set / setting is bad?
 
Well I remember reading that MDMA is extremely stable and MDMA that would've been synthesized during the construction of the pyramids would still be good today.
So MDMA should not degrade to a different chemical in 2 years.
However, I don't know about MDA.
 
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Mda and mdma if kept in proper conditions will outlive you. You probably had this freak out due to the psychedelic qualities of MDA, and like you said: set and setting. It happens. Though I don't think you should turn to your chemical for the reason of the "bad trip".
 
Could of been Dehydration and or Anxiety so I would Smoke some Cannabis Buds to Chill.
 
Well I remember reading that MDMA is extremely stable and MDMA that would've been synthesized during the construction of the pyramids would still be good today.
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Can we get some sources for this as from what I have seen on certain synthesis forums some salts of MDMA overtime can turn into a sludgey mess. Weather conditions can also greatly impact this.

I think there are certain variables in the mix here to be so certain about this however, I am open to suggestions or would be interested to see some sources etc.
 
futura2012 said:
Can we get some sources for this as from what I have seen on certain synthesis forums some salts of MDMA overtime can turn into a sludgey mess. Weather conditions can also greatly impact this.

I think there are certain variables in the mix here to be so certain about this however, I am open to suggestions or would be interested to see some sources etc.
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Apparently Shulgin said that

http://www.erowid.org/ask/ask.php?ID=1768
 
Thanks for the replies. I had noticed the great number of variations of phenethylamines out there, often just having an atom or two different, with vastly different effects, so maybe a degraded compound could change. But I'm glad to hear that's not the case.

I'm sure it was MDA, the pills were tested in 2012. I think the issue is that MDA is less predictable, particularly for someone like me who has had difficult times with psychedelics.

Probably should stick with MDMA. Oh well!
 
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Cheers for the link.

I did read that write up. Only thing to note is this at the end:

If stored in a cool, dry and closed container such as an amber glass vial (avoid excessive heat, light or moisture), its safe to assume that MDMA and 2C-T-7 will both last longer than you will.
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So I guess if weather conditions were warm, potentially humid, or you stored the MDMA with sun exposure then this could affect things.

I also wonder if the MDMA had impurities with it. Could any of these interact with the MDMA over time?
 
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