☮ Social ☮ PD Social Thread: N-Dimensional Funhouse of Possibilities

[xammy]

I will honor his memory by taking 2C-B soon, it was the first psychedelic I tried and one of Sasha's favorites if I recall right?

RIP

 

[SONN]

RIP alexander 'sasha' shulgin. One of the most admirable proponents of social change in all of history IMHO. If there was ever a such thing as a mad scientist, it was him, and I mean that in the most positive way possible. I really wish I could have met him and personally thanked him for all of the beautiful life changing experiences i've had due to his genius.

when I saw the first post that said RIP sasha I literally went "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"

 

[coelophysis]

when I saw the first post that said RIP sasha I literally went "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!"

Hate to be the bearer of bad news =/

I'll most likely take 2c-b in a little bit.

 

[I B Profane]

Hate to be the bearer of bad news =/

I'll most likely take 2c-b in a little bit.

Good thinkin' Abe Lincoln.

I really wish I had a Shulgin compound on hand to ingest today of all days...I should maybe hit up my friend for some 4-ho-mipt or 5-meo-mipt, I think he'd have enough left to share. I have some mxe but I remember reading somewhere that the Shulgins weren't very big fans of dissociatives?

I guess some meditation and listening to Brokedown Palace will have to do for the moment.

 

[Goddess Mode]

I think I'm going to join in on the taking a Shulgin compound today, I can't imagine a better way to commemorate him.... I was going to wait a little longer before tripping again but it's been five days and I have today off, so I don't see why not....

 

[Solipsis]

It's a nice sentiment, I just think he'd want you to still keep the importance of a proper set and setting in mind. I think he didn't just advocate use but responsible use.

Anyway I'm sure you already got that...

 

[Goddess Mode]

Don't worry, I wouldn't be tripping if it wasn't a good time for it. :3 Believe me, I've been through enough of that....

Just took 25 mg of 2C-I a few minutes ago. Depending on how it feels in 45 minutes to an hour, I may add some 4-HO-MiPT on to it.

 

[Solipsis]

Then have oodles of fun

 

[Goddess Mode]

Thanks so much!

 

[Folley]

I'm sure it can make for a nice trip, but honestly, once a psychedelic has killed someone in even remotely reasonable doses, they pretty much hit me "forgotten forever" list. With dozens of unbelievably safe psychedelics in existence, I really just don't see the point.

Wait.. has 5-MeO-DiPT killed before? Haven't heard of that. That's another Shulgin designed chemical, no?



Still, let's try and not be melancholy for the man. I'm sure wherever he is, it is where he is supposed to be A life is to be celebrated, not mourned. Especially a life as fulfilling and full of innovation as Sasha's!



Let me know how that dose works out Goddess, and if you think it would be a good level for a club vibe. Last time I took ~12mg and was quite underwhelmed, though it made for a good background drug.

 

[Xorkoth]

It's true, he was quite old, he lived a full and amazing life. Of course it's sad, but we should celebrate his life.

So I JUST got home, I've been going all day, I woke up at 7:30, worked out for an hour, worked a full day, ran errands, then went to the market (for the first time since a week before I took the ibogaine, so 6 weeks), and stayed til 10. I only made $25 there tonight, but I lined up a $30 sale tomorrow (already made his piece, he just wanted to wait til it dried before taking it), talked to a couple about to move to Asheville and they want to buy some art when they move in, and talked to a really interesting woman about her child who sees sounds in color and had a vision at 18 months old about Jesus and his eyes were filled with new colors... and her super cute friend, I think a little vibing may have been going on. The three of us talked about spiritual and universal topics for a while.

Now I just hit a nice little bowl of nug pieces and crystals, and I'm relaxing and Bluelighting for a couple of hours and going to bed.

I feel so great guys. No withdrawal, no PAWS, only 5 weeks later. And I'm way more in shape and eating well, I'm like practically exploding with euphoria half the day lately. Car rides are full of intense universal types of thoughts, my mind is always active (for the last 13 years it's been silent unless I am trying to think of something, usually, since I started smoking all day every day at 17), I feel like I have dozens of awesome ideas every day, and now I have the energy and motivation to execute more of them. It feels easy to do things again and I am really honestly happy, like not depressed whatsover like I have been for at least 10 years. No anxieties except brief moments I work through. My brain is working really well and I'm in control of myself. I feel like my life has restarted, it's like the way I had become is just a dream, and I'm back.



(It needed three)

Also I think I need to at some point be a performer of music. I think I have something unique to express.

 

[coelophysis]

It's a nice sentiment, I just think he'd want you to still keep the importance of a proper set and setting in mind. I think he didn't just advocate use but responsible use.

At home after a nice break with all my creature comforts and the intentions to celebrate someones legacy. Sounds like a solid set & setting for me.

 

[Goddess Mode]

Wait.. has 5-MeO-DiPT killed before? Haven't heard of that. That's another Shulgin designed chemical, no?

Still, let's try and not be melancholy for the man. I'm sure wherever he is, it is where he is supposed to be A life is to be celebrated, not mourned. Especially a life as fulfilling and full of innovation as Sasha's!

Let me know how that dose works out Goddess, and if you think it would be a good level for a club vibe. Last time I took ~12mg and was quite underwhelmed, though it made for a good background drug.

Yeah, it's gotten at least a few people who were dosing excessively. I don't think it's the most dangerous thing ever, but it definitely is enough to make me concerned. I'm pretty cautious about drugs and my body though, I really don't often care for any psychedelic that does anything to my body, positive or negative, aside from just giving me energy (in a clean way like LSD).

I like your attitude though. I definitely feel like this is a more of a celebration on my end right now. ^-^

Of the 2C-I alone? I've actually used it a number of times. As a newer experience for me, 12 mg would have been underwhelming too, but 25 mg would definitely be good for a club. That was the first dose I ever took of it and the way I described it was like rolling for the first time again, years after the fact, and with some beautiful full-spectrum rainbow cobweb visuals thrown in. For what it's worth though, I used to go to clubs a lot, but I've never found myself wishing I was at one on 2C-I. The trip it gives me is pretty mentally shallow, but I've pushed the doses pretty high on it, and I actually rank it among heavy duty tryptamines in terms of sheer hallucinogenic power. I've had immersive entity contact on 2C-I second only to DMT, only even sexier, but without any of the profound messages. On my strongest experience with it ever I basically just had an orgy with the entities for a while. Something I'd much rather be in a more intimate space for.... But that's just me. If you want lots of energy and some neat visuals and music enhancement, 25 mg will definitely get you there.

If you're asking about the 2C-I mixed with 4-HO-MiPT then I would have to suggest that there is no dose suited for a club lol. I took 25 mg of each, the former an hour before the latter. Correspondingly, it was sort of like a sexier, shallower version of what I expect ayahuasca to be like, including physically. Still a lot of depth though, just not in quite the same way as the personal insights and such that you'd normally expect from a profound trip.... They were there and all, but I'd say that the much stronger focus was that hallucinogenic potential of the 2C-I mixing with the particularly dissociating effects of 4-HO-MiPT. It gave me undoubtedly the sexiest visuals I've ever had from any trip, and there was definitely a good body energy in that sense too, but it was a no pain no gain kind of trip for sure. I eventually took some Libriums to cool it off just because I didn't want to keep dealing with the body junk all night. I had smoked some weed earlier too to help with nausea, and I quit smoking lately and wasn't missing it so I didn't do that lightly. It definitely helped a good bit, and was really what made the trip worthwhile to begin with. I also had two notable nitrous sessions, the first with sexy music and eyes closed for meditation which led to my most powerful dissociative ego loss to date, and the second outside in a lawn chair while staring up at the sky which led to my most powerful out-of-body experience to date, which I remember little to none of other than that it was incredibly alien in feeling. A crazy experience for sure, and NOT what I was expecting from mixing these two doses of these chemicals.... I *definitely* wouldn't do this at a club, haha.

^^ Lots of energy for rambling also.

I feel so great guys. No withdrawal, no PAWS, only 5 weeks later. And I'm way more in shape and eating well, I'm like practically exploding with euphoria half the day lately. Car rides are full of intense universal types of thoughts, my mind is always active (for the last 13 years it's been silent unless I am trying to think of something, usually, since I started smoking all day every day at 17), I feel like I have dozens of awesome ideas every day, and now I have the energy and motivation to execute more of them. It feels easy to do things again and I am really honestly happy, like not depressed whatsover like I have been for at least 10 years. No anxieties except brief moments I work through. My brain is working really well and I'm in control of myself. I feel like my life has restarted, it's like the way I had become is just a dream, and I'm back.

That's really awesome. :D I sincerely hope things just keep getting better and better for you!

 

[pharmakos]

Also I think I need to at some point be a performer of music. I think I have something unique to express.

Do it! Learning to play guitar was one of the best decisions I've ever made. Its such a good emotional release.

 

[Roger&Me]

learning to play music can be a frustrating journey at times, and it seems like i'm always many steps behind where i want to be. but there probably isn't any better feeling in the world.

 

[SONN]

what I don't get is how some super good classically trained musicians can play extremely difficult pieces but can't even begin to try to improvise like the thought never even crossed their minds.

 

[Roger&Me]

i hear ya man. improvisation is really where the magic is at

having a solid understanding of music theory and a well-developed musical vocabulary is essential though, because you can't break the rules creatively unless you actually know them. classical training is still probably the best avenue to accomplish that, imo at least. at the very least it allows you 4 years of music school to think about nothing but music. i really wish i was classically trained

 

[swilow]

^I dunno, I think you can break rules that you don't know about, you just won't know it when you have. Of course, a baby could play two notes a semi-tone apart and create some kind of dissonance and it would just be atonal nothingness. If Cecil Taylor does, it just has that much more impact...

(It needed three)

Sorry, but I feel that 4 was more appropriate.

 

[Bahamut]

What's up guys everything is been going well for me since my little binge on the 4-ho-met. Went through 500mg in four days. It was pretty wasteful but I had a good time. Got some MAL to dip into but I'm probably going to wait a week or so.

My detox from opiates is going well. Only took one parachute of kratom this morning and 40mg of loperamide. I'm going to wait until I start feeling shitty before I take anymore. Also going to hold off on my morning Etizolam dose and see if I can just take stick with a night time one.

Well have a good day everybody I'll probably be back around in a little bit

 

[Xorkoth]

Do it! Learning to play guitar was one of the best decisions I've ever made. Its such a good emotional release.

Guitar is what I want to learn. The stuff in my head is made for electric guitar solos.

I have a lot of musical training, I played piano and was really good from 8 to 18, I actually played recently at my parents' house, very rusty but I have the muscle memory framework still. I also played percussion in band from 5th grade through the end of high school. I've got a solid foundation of music theory as well. And I sing improvs to myself almost all day every day (and other people hear it if they're around me which is cool).

what I don't get is how some super good classically trained musicians can play extremely difficult pieces but can't even begin to try to improvise like the thought never even crossed their minds.

My ex is like that. She's one of the best classical pianists I've ever heard, some of her versions of Bach are better than any recording I have ever heard. But she can't improvise at all.