That's not what I said at all. You didn't comprehend what I said. Also, you speak in a strange way that is somewhat enigmatic to me, I can't really make sense of what you are trying to say.
LSD - does anyone agree? (argument about LSD being unhealthy)
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That's not what I said at all. You didn't comprehend what I said. Also, you speak in a strange way that is somewhat enigmatic to me, I can't really make sense of what you are trying to say.
pmoseman
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If the cure for a LSD problem is more LSD... then that is one hell of a trap.
whiteroom67
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This usually tends to be the case... "it was the drugs!!!1!" ...no, it was just you. 8)
whiteroom67
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Awesome and well said. I have had good and bad experiences. When it came to the bad experiences it was one of 2 things: I chose the wrong time/place/set and setting; orm there was something it needed to teach me, and while painful at the time, I came out stronger and more aware in the end.
pmoseman
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And what did you learn?
whiteroom67
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Many things... every trip was different. One difficult trip I had that was more on the personal side was that I came to the realization that I would regularly not take responsibility for things as much as I should have.... this was something I always consciously (or sub-consciously) avoided, but become harshly apparent during my trip. I became grossly aware of how my actions influence my younger brother and how I needed to change certain habits and aspects of myself in order to be sure not to lead him down the wrong path, because I became more aware of how much he actually does look up to me, and I became really uncomfortable at some past choices I had made that I felt wouldn't be good for him to see in his older brother. This made me change the way I would relate to my brother and make sure he didn't make bad decisions. I was really uncomfortable after this trip... very shaken up and anxious. Over time I realized it was because I couldn't accept this part of myself, the irresponsible part, and some awesome people on here helped me come to realize and make sense of that. I am still working on making peace with it, but these things take time and it gets better everyday with every good choice I make to help others, whether a stranger or my family, but especially my family.
Another thing I've learned, was on a more universal, cosmic sort of scale, and more positive. I feel I came to better understand the nature of reality in a sense. It became apparent to me how everyone's reality is greatly influenced by their subconscious... and their egos. We all have egos, it's what helps us give ourselves our identity. It's who we are, who we know ourselves to be as. We are all here, living here, but who knows why? Like as far as the ultimate reason... no one knows. But our goals in life are subconscious attempts to create meaning out of why we are here, but what about those in power? Those that represent the "eye" on top of that pyramid. I began to analyze what they think their purpose is in being here, and actually felt a connection to them. Almost as if they are striving to achieve money, power... but for what? To what end? We all, especially that 1% all work to climb to the top of that pyramid, we all want to succeed at something... but then, what happens when we get there? There is nothing there. Nothing at the top. They are just as well-off and miserable as the rest of us. Our minds are all operating on different planes of existence, but we are all here using the same consciousness, so no matter what one has or doesn't have, what one achieves or doesn't achieve, in the end it doesn't matter, because ultimately, there is nothing at the top of the pyramid anyway. It's what everyone wants, but no one seems to achieve. Even those in power have something controlling them - their desires. Their desires are created by their egos, an all the ego does is actively separate us from each other, when we are all just going to die anyway - and in the end, no one will have anything more than anyone else anyway. We are all operating on different "planes" of perception in life (these planes are hard to describe, but I "felt" and "experienced" them at the time of my trip), but all of thse planes are just part of the ultimate reality already anyway. The same is in all of us. All is in the All, and the All is in All. The All, pure consciousness, when experienced, is the infinite present moment, not some goal at the top of the pyramid, because again, even once the top of the pyramid is achieved - there is nothing there. It was a universal understanding that I felt gave me more peace in knowing that whatever I do in life, as long as I am happy, nothing else matters. What makes me happy is making others happy. Helping others. I felt a change in direction of my life that day. I'm still at my day job, but I am in the process of applying for the peace corps, and planning my years after that rather than just running in the rat race, which is how I felt before that trip. Because even if you win the rat race, you are still just a rat.
In general, it just made me more open-minded, more accepting, more spiritual, and more aware. Sometimes it was comfortable, sometimes it wasn't, but I am much more comfortable with who I have become today because of my very occasional and "safe" LSD use. I still have an addiction I am working out, not physically anymore, but psychologically, but when I am ready I know I will make it, when the time is right. We are all where we should be at any given moment, because we ultimately create our own realities. My experience with DMT and Ayahuasca gave me an even deeper insight into this... but I'll save that for another post.
whiteroom67
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Many things... every trip was different. One difficult trip I had that was more on the personal side was that I came to the realization that I would regularly not take responsibility for things as much as I should have.... this was something I always consciously (or sub-consciously) avoided, but became harshly apparent during my trip. I became grossly aware of how my actions influence my younger brother and how I needed to change certain habits and aspects of myself in order to be sure not to lead him down the wrong path, because I became more aware of how much he actually does look up to me, and I became really uncomfortable at some past choices I had made that I felt wouldn't be good for him to see in his older brother. This made me change the way I would relate to my brother and make sure he didn't make bad decisions. I was really uncomfortable after this trip... very shaken up and anxious. Over time I realized it was because I couldn't accept this part of myself, the irresponsible part, and some awesome people on here helped me come to realize and make sense of that. I am still working on making peace with it, but these things take time and it gets better everyday with every good choice I make to help others, whether a stranger or my family, but especially my family.
Another thing I've learned, was on a more universal, cosmic sort of scale, and more positive. I feel I came to better understand the nature of reality in a sense. It became apparent to me how everyone's reality is greatly influenced by their subconscious... and their egos. We all have egos, it's what helps us give ourselves our identity. It's who we are, who we know ourselves to be as. We are all here, living here, but who knows why? Like as far as the ultimate reason... no one knows. But our goals in life are subconscious attempts to create meaning out of why we are here, but what about those in power? Those that represent the "eye" on top of that pyramid. I began to analyze what they think their purpose is in being here, and actually felt a connection to them. Almost as if they are striving to achieve money, power... but for what? To what end? We all, especially that 1% all work to climb to the top of that pyramid, we all want to succeed at something... but then, what happens when we get there? There is nothing there. Nothing at the top. They are just as well-off and miserable as the rest of us. Our minds are all operating on different planes of existence, but we are all here using the same consciousness, so no matter what one has or doesn't have, what one achieves or doesn't achieve, in the end it doesn't matter, because ultimately, there is nothing at the top of the pyramid anyway. It's what everyone wants, but no one seems to achieve. Even those in power have something controlling them - their desires. Their desires are created by their egos, an all the ego does is actively separate us from each other, when we are all just going to die anyway - and in the end, no one will have anything more than anyone else anyway. We are all operating on different "planes" of perception in life (these planes are hard to describe, but I "felt" and "experienced" them at the time of my trip), but all of thse planes are just part of the ultimate reality already anyway. The same is in all of us. All is in the All, and the All is in All. The All, pure consciousness, when experienced, is the infinite present moment, not some goal at the top of the pyramid, because again, even once the top of the pyramid is achieved - there is nothing there. It was a universal understanding that I felt gave me more peace in knowing that whatever I do in life, as long as I am happy, nothing else matters. What makes me happy is making others happy. Helping others. I felt a change in direction of my life that day. I'm still at my day job, but I am in the process of applying for the peace corps, and planning my years after that rather than just running in the rat race, which is how I felt before that trip. Because even if you win the rat race, you are still just a rat.
In general, it just made me more open-minded, more accepting, more spiritual, and more aware. Sometimes it was comfortable, sometimes it wasn't, but I am much more comfortable with who I have become today because of my very occasional and "safe" LSD use. I still have an addiction to opiates I am working out, not physically anymore, but psychologically, but when I am ready I know I will make it, when the time is right - because I realized it stems from not fulfilling my true path in life. We are all where we should be at any given moment, because we ultimately create our own realities. My experience with DMT and Ayahuasca gave me an even deeper insight into this... but I'll save that for another post.
whiteroom67
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^Shit, sorry. duplicate post. My comp fucked up and I thought it didn't post the first time. My bad.
treezy z
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lsd for me is the most harmless drug, including marijuana.
theacidtest
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I've always felt the same way, though for me LSD has been less harmless than marijuana. LSD has never been anything but a positive element in my life. I'm sure for some people it can be a problem, but then again so can almost anything.
whiteroom67
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It does definitely, to a degree, however there's a lot of people that place wayyy too much emphasis on money and material things. When we aren't happy in our lives, and have just a "job" for the paycheck, we tend to buy and spend money on things we don't need in order to temporarily "fill the gap". Having traveled and spent time in 3rd world and developing countries, there are a lot of people I found there who are happy and at peace, and those who can even be said to be even happier, than many that I've met and known here in America, despite their apparent lack of economic wealth. So working in tune with economics is important to a degree to survive in the world, but when we are lying on our death beds, most people won't be thinking about their Mercedes, they'll be thinking about the difference they made in their lives to those they care about, and the difference they've made in the world.
Self-actualization and finding one's vocation is the single most important thing in a person's life aside from acquiring the basic physical needs of survival. Vocation is natural gifts + passion. When people do what they love, and what they simultaneously are good at, it becomes their vocation. When they consider at least 80% of their day-job to be their vocation and not just a "job", the line between work and play is blurred, and you will become good at what you're doing simply because you love it so much. And when you love doing something that much, you get good at it, and when you get good like that, the money will come. So in a way, our inner realities DO heavily influence the creation of our outer realities.
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treezy z
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^i'm broke as fuck and i don't care, probably from psychedelic experiences.
whiteroom67
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Do you work or are you unemployed, if you don't mind my asking. You can always PM me if you'd rather
treezy z
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i work 20 hours a week and get disability.
that said if i was working full time an had the same amount of money i'd be miserable. i'd get involved in shadiness if that was the case.
pmoseman
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But you have never actually been to the top of the pyramid.
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whiteroom67
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Really? Maybe I have... maybe I've been there and back again. More than once... how would you know?
Everyone's "top of the pyramid" is different. What is one man's treasure is another man's garbage.
The point is, if you possess the mindset of always needing something more, and/or aren't true to yourself, then true happiness, joy and peace will never come to you. You will always find nothing at the top of the pyramid.
The fact is, I will admit, there may be ONE thing at the top of the pyramid, that one thing which we all already have the potential to have at this very moment, this very second... but very few people are aware of it. It is all a matter of perspective.
We are all already at the top of the pyramid, if you are able to see it that way, through self-awareness and uncompromised acceptance.
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pmoseman
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I am just going off what you said and now you are backing out of the "I know all/everything about everybody" statements into "everybody has their own top of the pyramid".Really? Maybe I have... maybe I've been there and back again. More than once... how would you know?
Everyone's "top of the pyramid" is different. What is one man's treasure is another man's garbage.
The point is, if you possess the mindset of always needing something more, and simultaneously aren't true to yourself, then true happiness, joy and peace will never come to you. You will always find nothing at the top of the pyramid.
The fact is, I will admit, there may be ONE thing at the top of the pyramid, that one thing which we all already have the potential to have at this very moment, this very second... but very few people are aware of it. It is all a matter of perspective.
We are all already at the top of the pyramid, if you are able to see it that way, through self-awareness and uncompromised acceptance.
But then go right back into handing down dogmatic reasons why everyone is surely miserable at the top of their pyramid, none of which you have actually experienced.
As I was starting to say before, you have limited your pyramid by placing yourself at the top of it and now you see what is at the top without bothering to climb one. Perhaps you are missing something else entirely unexpected by doing so.
pmoseman
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Not that I disagree with helping others or finding the right vocation, I think those are two major issues in everyone's life that should be dealt with.
Real "top of the pyramid" stuff, so to speak. But after those are fulfilled everything would be empty, not really, helping everyone is a great goal, but realisitically unattainable.
Real "top of the pyramid" stuff, so to speak. But after those are fulfilled everything would be empty, not really, helping everyone is a great goal, but realisitically unattainable.
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