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inflorescence said:
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But yeh swarm we gotta stop using this vile, ridiculous,,,extraordinarily not interesting, functional or recreational filth..the eph..imo!?

So a zop for me and more water. Feeling fine and dandy..let us all be careful. You may be on the whole more tolerant/fitter/younger and know yer mixes of shit....so don't go throwing things at me...for caring...and yes trying to take own advice a lot these days too...aint trying to be Queen HR but I just can't stand anymore ill effects...just love you all <3 tis all....fucking tired and happy and slight hippy lapse there. Seriously please all stick around a looooooooong time.
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First point - seconded personally. I know others that get on great with ethylphen but I think I'm as good as out from hear on.

Second point. Well fuckin said. I know we all like to tell stories of past nuttiness, few more guilty than me, but right now its all about the HR incentive. If I see another RIP thread anytime soon I'm gonna seriously loose my shit. I'll take it on the chin and be there to support others as always cos that's what I stand for, no ifs or buts. Inside though recent events have barely sunk in let alone begun the slow and long journey towards the healing process.
 
Chatative said:
It seems to me that the aMT craze never took off... it seemed to be following on the back of the 'benzofury' craze, with all those suppliers trying to sell it as the next amazing RC. .
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To me it seems like aMT never got as popular because it still was so easy to get things like DMT, 2C-C, 2C-E, the 2C-T-X:es, and so on. Shame, because to me it's always been one of the golden ones.
 
weird, never got on with amt myself. always gave a headache and just kinda felt like a poor mans acid.

only did a hand ful of time though so I fully trust it works it's majic on certain individuals.
 
Methylone..have a wandered round these 'ere threads getting a little confused and bamboozled and I just wondered what an effective min dose may be in your opinions..and what your average/normal dose may be?

Cheers <3
 
Methylone. That's a weird one for me right now. I got some in recently and all I got was nausea off a 60mg dose. In fairness I packed the pill the night before and leaned over and dropped it as soon as my alarm went off. Didn't have a good one either way.

Before it was banned I never took it on its own. I used to pack a pill (or several) with 60mg methylone and 40mg mephedrone. 5 of those would see me through the night. Along with about 600mg dxm.

Answer to your question. 50mg should get you off baseline, 150 mg isn't gonna kill you.
 
Isn't around 150mg a 'standard' dose? I certainly wouldn't bother with 50mg. I assume we're talking oral doses?

Not that I'd bother with methylone at all these days, but I'm sure that I rarely took anything much under about 200mg. Which might be on the high side, but I didn't have any problems. YMMV.
 
Sammy G said:
Isn't around 150mg a 'standard' dose? I certainly wouldn't bother with 50mg. I assume we're talking oral doses?

Not that I'd bother with methylone at all these days, but I'm sure that I rarely took anything much under about 200mg. Which might be on the high side, but I didn't have any problems. YMMV.
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cool nice input sammy. Like I said it was hard for me to judge as I always did methylone in combo with mephedrone and dxm. Alot of people aren't familiar with dxm, however, if you take the stim properties of mxe and remember how precarious that can be when mixed with other stims, well DXM is like the hardcore stimulant version of mxe.

I'm sure this probably isn't news to you as your an experienced guy but I wanted to justify my treading cautiously all the same. I think I can remember putting away grams of methylone pre ban but since I can't be sure I kept my mouth shut.
 
does anyone know if AL-LAD will ever be back? loved that stuff, almost as good as LSD.
 
Am gutted to fuck as I missed all that. All I picked up was a gram of that 2ckb -something or other that didn't agree with me at all.

There's always lsd itself mind. I'm also a huge mescaline fan, though the awful vinegar cactus sludge can be quite prohibiting. Still hasn't stopped me on my first 20 odd mescaline trips so can't see it stopping me in the future.
 
LSZ is still around isn't it Swarm? Tis a good one too.

aMT is lovely but the duration always put me off. Vaporising it was really not easy because it tasted dreadful and made you cough. Combined with the large amount needed I only gave it one unsuccessful try.


The benzofurans are good on their own but personally I think they need a little careful combination to balance them into truly great drug experiences. 5-MAPB with some 2-FMA and a dab of 4-HO-MET is my favourite. I found 5-APB a little lacklustre in all aspects but still very nice and combos well with 6-APB.
 
Going through hellish times over here across the pond.

Turned out my wife was snorting MXE all day from sun up until sun down. At work, at school, at home, just constant. Then we ran out and I refuse to order her more and now she's giving me shit and saying she "needs" it and all kinds of crap. Constant tension every day, she accuses me of "controlling her" because I won't order more to "help her", even though I explicitly told her from the start not to do it everyday, let alone continual redosing .

Feel like I lost my drug partner, I won't be able to trust her to be honest or control her use of any chem now.
 
Whoah that's no small task you got on your hands JBrandon. I fell into daily abuse of mxe it really damaged me. I lost weight. I couldn't concentrate on anything, and more to the point i was verging on stim psychosis? It really did fry my brain, my dopamine levels were way up there. I was manic.
 
All the drug names confuse me lol... gotta really be messing with your mind taking all this random crap

So many names... so many forms, the thread name really sums it up
 
I'm not on about just MXE

I am on about RC's in general

Lots of random names... I can google it and find 1000's of random letters and numbers and experiences on them

People gotta be more careful!
 
Yeah man. The RC's nowadays seem either shit or dangerous. I miss the mxe days, mephedrone days etc. I know too well what not doing your homework on an RC is like. Death wasnt too far away from me and a friend.
 
Hangover said:
People gotta be more careful!
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This has always been the case, with all drugs. There were plenty of shit or dangerous RCs through history. Remember piperazines? Remember herbal highs? Remember N-ethyl-norketamine? Remember 2-DPMP? Remember 5-IAI? Remember 5F-UR-144 (nephrotoxin)? Remember naphyrone?

And damn, jbrandon. Good luck; that is not a situation I would want to be in.
 
What's n ethyl nor ketamine? That's quite a list you got stored in that high powered computer of a brain Mr Transform.

For me, the most scandalous RC to ever hit the market was mdpv. Considering it was being touted by many vendors as the next mephedrone, the fact that 20mg was enough to have you boxed in a cage of sweat dreanched paranoia for following 24 hrs was just terrible on the part of the vendors. On top of that, the Wikipedia article that described it as a more potent form of ritalin lead to no shortage of first timer castrophe's, and that's just the ones I happened to witness with my own two eyes.
 
headfuck123 said:
anyone got experience vaping/smoking freebase amt? i heard it eliminates the nausea, has a faster onset, a shorter duration and its more stimmy and less trippy.
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Yes I have and yes to the rest. Onset is a long way from instant as may be considered standard for smoked/vaped stuffs though. In fact it still takes at least an hour to really kick in (if not longer). Dose is generally significantly lower than an oral/rectal dose too. Hard to give firm advice but 15mg is quite noticeable and I probably wouldn't go much over 25mg or so myself vaped. It's quite a bit stimmier than oral/rectal doses and duration is a bit shorter (but again, not as much shorter as you may think).

inflorescence said:
Methylone..have a wandered round these 'ere threads getting a little confused and bamboozled and I just wondered what an effective min dose may be in your opinions..and what your average/normal dose may be?

Cheers <3
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Methylone is an odd one. It's utter garbage at anything short of sillyhigh doses (imo, ime, ymmv, etc, etc). I'm far from alone in thinking that though. I totally wrote it off as worthless til I "accidentally" (long story - involved scales being on wrong setting amongst other things though) IVing 750mg or so. Yes. I know. Don't do that at home, kiddies. Was fukkin incredible though <3

Other folks I was with also got triple-dosed for same reason but they went the more sensible oral route and were doses lower anyway cos first time and no tolerance (I'd been binging a bit :o). The one fella didn't seem to get much at all despite the high dose and the other gal was uberfukked (in the goooooooooooooood kinda way) but also developed the most extreme case of lockjaw I've ever seen until it started to wear off. She said it felt good enough to be worth it but she seriously couldn't part her teeth a millimetre for a few hours.

None of that is much use to you really... I wouldn't go less than maybe 250mg oral/rectal myself though even without tolerance. Although, for HR's sake, do go with a low-dose practice run before embarking on a doing it properly night just in case. It really is utter shite unless the dose is high though. Very brief, kinda fiendy and with the comedown from hell. Unless you make the dose worthwhile the negatives vastly outweigh the positives in my book. YMMV and all that...

Transform said:
Remember naphyrone?
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Some vendor sent me an oz of that for free just before it got banned. Was around the peak of my peev daze so didn't object despite it being shite. Ended up going on an insane binge which ended up with me injecting into a vein I could actually see quite clearly due to it being in a hole the size of a 50p coin I'd developed on the side of my elbow from missing a shot and letting it go rancid. Nice. Gotta <3 stim binges 8)

(elbow healed just fine once it ran out but was pretty frikkin bad even by my standards to let things go so far :\)
 
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