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Methamphetamine Discussion Thread 2.0

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lovepsychadelics said:
As for the pricing some of the mods here are rather stringent/strict/dictators but most are pretty cool when you're not mentioning stuff that will get you sent to the naughty corner.
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Regarding prices, there's a few reasons mentioning them can lead to trouble, and not much basis for arguing that keeping them in adds to HR. The sitcho above isn't a huge deal but I edited out the prices as the rule is best kept consistent across the forum.
 
Welp, I discovered what full-blown meth psychosis is like. After a big night on it I found myself hearing voices that took on an increasing amount of substance as the day stretched on... I'd leave the room we were all in and just listen through the walls, hearing vague sinister plots and vicious insults. I finally flipped when someone said it was time to end me, and everyone else agreed in triumphant cheer -- they did this right in front of me, or so I imagined. I'm told that in reality I was just sitting with a vacant stare, lost in my head.

Ended up absolutely turning on everyone. Said awful, paranoid things. Said a mate's girlfriend was "repulsive", among other charming claims of conspiracy... before being driven home I remember hiding from the cops (???) in the shed, cause they'd totally never find my stupid wigging arse behind the washing machine. My behavior has cost me 2 good friends.

I dunno why I'm writing this, really. Didn't want to start a thread but don't have anyone to talk to. Just kinda... can't believe how sucked into madness I got. Who was that lunatic? Was that who I've burnt down to?

Urgh. No more shard for me. Not for a good long time.
 
Didn't want to start a thread but don't have anyone to talk to. Just kinda... can't believe how sucked into madness I got. Who was that lunatic? Was that who I've burnt down to?
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Nah, that's not who you've become, don't stress yourself out.

You had a scary and socially awkward experience, but you sound like you're able to make sense of it all now and you understand what happened. So chalk it up to experience and do your best not to end up in that place again. If you do end up in that state too many times, you are seriously risking your mental health.

And just to anyone reading: Stimulant psychosis is like wearing away the filters in your mind that protect you from insanity, basically. You can only get away with it so many times. In particular, if it the duration of the madness is longer each time it happens you should seriously consider giving it up. Ideally, you'd never get yourself into that situation at all - but sometimes you don't know your limits till you've crossed the line.
 
So if you dont normally throw up after being on it less than 2 days. (Been consistantly on it more days before without throwing up) Kinda nibbled a little bit since first smoke but not alot. Vego pasta. Drinking lots of water. Had a few bongs to try and sleep on. Ate a banana cos- its been awhile since last smoke cos trying to wind it out of me to sleep. After i ate the banana ive had to vomit quite violently at least 4 times. Feeling like im fine and i wont vomit again and then i do. Ugh!

Come downs arent normally this bad. And ive been on longer benders without vomiting. Im trying to be good and stopping and having a sleep rather than continue for another couple of days and it feels like im being punished for restraining. No fair

Everythings kinda shakey when i look at it and my body feels like its shaking from the inside out and i dare say i will vomit again before i try and sleep which probably wont happen as maybe the http (is that it?) That my flatmate gave me to help me sleep (not knowing ive been on meth) was thrown up have anything to do with me throwing up?

Im fucked. I wana sleep. I feel sick in the guts. Have a headache now. Have to be on my way to work in about 12 hrs. To be honest this is probably one of the shortest binges ive had in awhile. As i said. Trying to be good. Pfft one of my glands in my right side of my face swelled up and has stayed that size for well over 12 hrs now

Wtf is going on? Insight? Help? I dont know but this is one fucker of- a come down
 
mate ive had bad comedowns just from one night on it, I know this probably isnt gona be popular HR advice but what u need are some downers, alcohol is a good one if u have some. Combine with a low dose benzo (be careful mixing alcohol and benzos) drink plenty of fluids and the try and SLEEP, sleep is the only real thing that will make you feel better at this point.

You have done the right thing in trying to eat something. I think what u are refering to is 5htp, 5htp is OK i guess for meth comedowns, its tradiontally used for mdma comedowns but could work for meth also.

Goodluck budy.
 
I tried to reply to this twice last night. My 1st was massive and took forever to write so when the 2nd try was lost i figure i was sharing way too much cos i was high and i share too much sober lol so i took it as a sign from the universe that it shouldnt have been said ;-)

Just wanted to come back and sax thanks for replying. I got 3hrs of sleep in this morning which isnt enough but it will get me through work. I think i would have had to cancel.
 
went from IVing rock once a fortnight to complete cold turkey and its been about 8 months since my last shot.. dont even think about it anymore but having this said, it was purley because I've been diagnosed with hypertension and I dont want to do any further damage to myself although I have become somewhat of a pisshead (mabey I already was one lol) since which isnt good for my blood pressure
 
Halif said:
Nah, that's not who you've become, don't stress yourself out.

You had a scary and socially awkward experience, but you sound like you're able to make sense of it all now and you understand what happened. So chalk it up to experience and do your best not to end up in that place again. If you do end up in that state too many times, you are seriously risking your mental health.

And just to anyone reading: Stimulant psychosis is like wearing away the filters in your mind that protect you from insanity, basically. You can only get away with it so many times. In particular, if it the duration of the madness is longer each time it happens you should seriously consider giving it up. Ideally, you'd never get yourself into that situation at all - but sometimes you don't know your limits till you've crossed the line.
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Thank you for your reply, Halif.

I think you've got the right idea... accept the facts as they are, try to repair the broken bonds, and move onward. Not a lot else I can do, really. Heh... "socially awkward experience". That's one way to put it.

I got back on her last night with a different group of friends -- heard the voices and had the same paranoid thoughts again, but this time I kept it all under lock and key, and mostly it all faded. The trick is to ignore the madness... giving it the time of day only makes it that much worse.

Keep Calm and Carry On.
 
lovepsychadelics said:
hx_ : Lol 200 mg sample. Hehe looks like you got some nice quality gear for your <no prices>. That'd cost about 20 x what you paid over here and it'd be somewhat shit. Hell if 0.5 g after an acetone wash leaves only 400 mgs roughly of meth it's 20% cut. If that is rated as good then fuck me!!! That to me is pretty crappy. Some people have sorted me gear recently that 100 mg's off does sweet fuck all and would be better being called crystallized meth base then ice. No wash but lucky to be 40% meth.

As for the pricing some of the mods here are rather stringent/strict/dictators but most are pretty cool when you're not mentioning stuff that will get you sent to the naughty corner. As for me my usual guy has had massive issues with his source so no joy at this point in time. I trust no other fucker to supply me with VERY high purity crystal meth (he does the acetone wash himself, hell I've sat there and watched him and the return is more like 95% ie 500 mg washed yields 475 mg or there about). That is good quality meth that has NOT been jumped all over.
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Good on you for having an awesome dealer, lets see some photos of the goodness? I have been smoking shards for a long time and very rarely do i get more than .4g back from .5g. And like I said this was 2/3 price I would have normally paid. I don't see how anyone can complain about quality when 1 point is enough to keep me awake for days (admittedly no tolerance these days). I want to see pictures of your 95% crystal. I'm very interested.
 
Wow Doofqueen long time sis! Hope your well!

I usually only have 50mg in a shot coz throwing up while rushing isnt fun(excess sweating, overheating + heart rate increases even more which I dont need. It interrupts my calm mind & causes anxiety and panicky shit which is why I use ice instead of regular speed anyway, I seem to suffer much less anxiety and physical exhaustion with crystal compared to regular speed ) but today I decided to test out a whole point and rushed my balls off, my stomach did somersaults like usual but I didnt spew. I dont know how I stop myself coz I get damn close to chucking. I think it may just be nausea and not full on spewing that is an effect. I seem to be one of few that has this effect after a shot. Even if I dont get a mega-rush my stomach still turns until the rush is over(average 20 minutes), I dont feel sick now just wired as fuck. Pity my dealer is going to jail in 2 weeks, its been good having quality product and nice, sane people selling it. My suburb needs a break anyway but god knows everyone will find someone new.

Oh lastly, dont let anyone talk you into mixing up a shot without a filter. I did it just this once(once in 7-8 years) coz ive seen people do it so often but I definitely got unwanted effects due to not filtering(headache etc) just dont, it was very silly!)

P.s someone mentioned something about ear pressure? I noticed my ear popped after the shot I had today as if I were on a plane or something. Not sure if it happens everytime but it seems like its happening more often. Usually with IV but I guess coz your so new to smoking you'd get similar rushes to IV if your getting big tokes. Fuck me im sweating so much and im so, SOOOO HIIIGGHH!!!! I think ive just ruined the whole 50mg shot thing. Full points from now on. Its not tolerance either, just a realization that I can have big shots and not have my heart beat through my chest. Ice is soooo different to the old speed/base. I often thought I was dying/having a heart attack on that shit. Im confused. I thought ice was purer/stronger?
 
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^ I think because meth induces such a dopamine rush, that it overrides any anxiety that could come from it.

It's my theory as to why some people claim smoking meth to be a more chilled experience, as opposed to the ol school goo.

It's not the case once the stuff wears off, that's when my anxiety gets to a point where I have to do something about it.

Just my thought on the matter, don't quote it.
 
Yeah I know a lot of people who can't handle Meth because they say it gives them anxiety and makes them feel irritable or ancy. I've been sober for 2 friggin' years and it seems that once I quit Meth I started getting anxiety. I feel like Meth was my everything.. it helped with anxiety, it gave me drive and confidence. Shit calmed me down even when I did a fat shot =/ fucking sucks man 2 years sober with no relapses you would think things would get better for me. Honestly if I wasn't married to my loved one I'd probably still be using no questions asked. Hope things get better for me cuz life is depressing sometimes and I don't even know what to do. I argue with my wife because I keep talking about how much I miss it.. I'm afraid I'll never change *shrugs* any who I'm done I just needed to vent sorry guys!
 
Personally ice/meth makes gives me anxiety i feel sketchy and irritable with a bit of energy like a couple coffees not my preferred drug .Ive only used it a couple of times and ive always been able to sleep fine even after 4 ish hrs.
Another point when my partner who is bipolar has done it she said it cleared her head was able to focus on 1 thing at a time and also was able to sleep very well which she normally cant do.
Just my expereinces with meth
 
opi8 said:
^ I don't think that's against harm reduction, teaching people how to smoke properly. In fact I'd like to read it, I've never smoked ice, I always IV it. But if the time comes when I'm offered a smoke, I'd like to know how to do it properly.
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Captain Brewster said:
^ I think because meth induces such a dopamine rush, that it overrides any anxiety that could come from it.

It's my theory as to why some people claim smoking meth to be a more chilled experience, as opposed to the ol school goo.

It's not the case once the stuff wears off, that's when my anxiety gets to a point where I have to do something about it.

Just my thought on the matter, don't quote it.
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I bought a bag today and had a little shot but I'm making myself smoke the rest coz the duration is shorter (I don't want to be up too long) and the high is more chilled. Just wish I had a pipe and not a bloody light bulb.

Also I like to know that I can use other MOA and have a break from the needle, I really don't think I have a needle fixation. I'm just impatient and I get a different high with each MOA with meth. I hate snorting coz it's too jittery, oral lasts too long with not enough euphoria. I won't bag plugging coz it really is awesome.. For example with heroin I've only ever IV'd it(though my real introduction to harder opiates was snorting oxy 80's and plugging MS-CONTINS (I love morphine!)Until I inevitably started wacking them). Never snorted or smoked once and would never use any other MOA coz tolerance is too high and smoking meth and smoking h have very different comparative effects to IV'ing each drug. But smoking meth still gets me high at a reasonable price. If I were to smoke h it'd cost me nearly a grand and I'd be smoking for hours! Why not just IV and pay 1/3 of the amount. I don't use H anymore anyway coz it costs too much with my tolerance :/

I used last night and had 14mg of clonaz with my daily 100mg of methadone and it was so nice. Benzo's after meth can be almost as good as heroin! Especially with a few bongs thrown in and for me (the ghost of tolerance :(, All my favorite drugs I've developed a long term tolerance to. The one I don't get is Benzo's though. I'll take a month off and still need ridiculous amounts to get that calming feeling even though I've only been mildly physically dependent twice. 14mg of clonaz, 10+mg of alprazolam, don't even get me started on Temzepam, Oxazepam or Diazepam. I had 20, 5mg valium the other night and it had zero effect :/ when I use temaze I often need 20, 10mg pills and haven't had serepax for awhile but it's weak as fuck and doesn't last. I did try some Nitrazepam(Mogadon 5mg) the other day and I find it great! I don't even need much. My tolerance doesn't make sense when you look at equivalence charts though. It's weird. I'm enjoying my clonaz atm though as it's a muscle relaxant and with cones is pure bliss when coming down.

Gonna finish this first bit packed in the pipe then surf the net :)
 
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Meth also gives me confidence and drive, even IV'd after the initial *boom* rush and sometimes spew, I feel my anxiety almost completely dissipates. I'm too happy to feel anxious, I find it strange that some people get anxiety from this drug.
 
opi8 said:
Meth also gives me confidence and drive, even IV'd after the initial *boom* rush and sometimes spew, I feel my anxiety almost completely dissipates. I'm too happy to feel anxious, I find it strange that some people get anxiety from this drug.
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I couldn't agree more! My doctor asked how long I used Meth for and how long I was clean and I explained to him that I've been clean for 2 years but I get anxiety a couple times a month and that's never happened to me. I told him he would be a friggin' G if he would put me on some Desoxyn. Obviously I don't have severe ADHD/ADD and I'm not obese but man I would love to get some pharmaceutical Meth and take it everyday as it would help me with my anxieties and anger. I understand Meth has a lot of bad side effects but it's pretty much the only thing that got me through a lot in my life! It made a lot of things easier and I just miss it sometimes.. okay a lot of the times lol but I can't go back and fuck up my marriage over it! Gotta choose one or the other.. I WISH I could have both though.. shit even if I could just use a couple of times a week I'd be fine with that!
 
^ Yeah for sure. Actually was coming down and had an ultrasound done on a dodgy shoulder and my lymph nodes were swelled to hell... Try explaining that one to your GP. "Well doc I had this real bad cold". Dr to himself/herself "Bullshit artist, another fucking bullshit artist". The neck and shoulder pain is part and parcel my dear. Benzo's are my best friends. Not that I do meth much these day's, getting too old, or post on BL... that's what the darknet is for ;).
 
relapsed today i went out and bought 8ball even i know i have a bad meth problem with all the bullshit going on in my life right now with my job the sdi office and my lawyer i was happy to load my pookie with shards and smoke after not doing any meth for almost two months
 
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