☮ Social ☮ PD Social Thread: Trans-dimensional Hyperspace Cocktail Bar - Fractals Apply Within

[Roger&Me]

yeah meth is a great way to go crazy as fuck lol

even regular amphetamine can make you pretty crazy if you overdo it, but meth is just ridiculous

i need to go back to the psychiatrist and get more adderall, i miss that stuff

 

[coelophysis]

I avoided vaping it because I read that it's too fiendy that way. Which I was trying to avoid at all cost.

 

[PepperSocks]

i need to go back to the psychiatrist and get more adderall, i miss that stuff

Although I'm not disputing you have a valid reason for it; you sir have the best doctor I have ever heard of. Most of us have to get benzo RCs to get benzos at any reasonable cost or accessibility. Meanwhile you say you won't touch etizolam with a ten foot pole because of it being a thienodiazepine with posibility of blephorspasms. Meanwhile I'm thinking "gee must be nice to be able to be choosy", the same principle applies to the stims and opies you get your hands on.

Most of us have to go through back channels via grey or black markets, meanwhile you're able to go in, communicate symptoms, walk out with legit, quality drugs. Even if I have the symptoms for something, if it's not severe I get nothing for it. I don't even have a history of drug seeking, it just seems the only people able to get real drugs outside of severe, long term issues, is old folks.

Gah, Roger you have a bitchin doc, if psychs were legal you'd be able to get them too

I avoided vaping it because I read that it's too fiendy that way. Which I was trying to avoid at all cost.

It is, but I don't find it worse than oral. With oral by 2-3 hours I'd say "a bit more", 2-3 hours after that "a bit more" and so on. Smoking I might come back for hits on the 15s in the first hour, but after that I'm good. Once I reach a ceiling with it, I'm okay. I never quite reach that ceiling with oral dosing, and the duration ends up wrecking me, worse than vaping would because it lasts so long.

This is one scenario where I can't entertain the 'benzos are the devil' argument. Stay up, wired, sketched out, can't sleep, anxious turning paranoid, auditory hallucinations of whispers from people nearby, outside the house talking about you, preparing to barge in and see your state. On both the mental health and neurological point of views the vastly preffered practice is to take a benzo hours before that point is reached, let your neurons slow down, and get some sleep.

I don't have benzos so it's poppy seed tea, valerian, diphenhydramine, and alcohol. Eventually a heavy mix will put me down. 10mg of diazepam would be preferred though (or 1mg of etizolam )

 

[Help?!?!]

Good is this shit going fast! Reminds me so much of a few years ago! Absolutely ace discussions going on as well! You know it's going good when your confused on where exactly to jump in at because there's so much discussion and someone is posting every fifteen minutes!

 

[coelophysis]

Although I'm not disputing you have a valid reason for it; you sir have the best doctor I have ever heard of. Most of us have to get benzo RCs to get benzos at any reasonable cost or accessibility. Meanwhile you say you won't touch etizolam with a ten foot pole because of it being a thienodiazepine with posibility of blephorspasms. Meanwhile I'm thinking "gee must be nice to be able to be choosy", the same principle applies to the stims and opies you get your hands on.

Most of us have to go through back channels via grey or black markets, meanwhile you're able to go in, communicate symptoms, walk out with legit, quality drugs. Even if I have the symptoms for something, if it's not severe I get nothing for it. I don't even have a history of drug seeking, it just seems the only people able to get real drugs outside of severe, long term issues, is old folks.

Gah, Roger you have a bitchin doc, if psychs were legal you'd be able to get them too

I used to think that, and maybe it's different in Canada, but I was buying loads of Etizolam from the internet and spending so much money. Then I got hooked and HAD to keep buying them. Totally pissing my money away. Easily 150-200usd per month on the shit because at that point I needed them to keep from having withdrawals. But in all honesty I believe it's really simple to get benzos prescribed. All it took was one doctors visit and I was prescribed 1mg of Klonopin 2 times per day and the prescription only costs me 13 dollars lol. I had wasted so much money on Etizolam because of my fear of going to the doctor and being rejected. The truth of the matter is they want to prescribe you shit like that, they want your business. I cannot wait to be done with my benzo taper. Being down to .5mgs per day is helping me feel better. I actually feel like there is a light at the end of the tunnel for the first time in a long while. I can't wait to get this shit over with.

I think getting prescription stimulants would be a little harder than benzos but from what friends tell me, they sure make it seem easy to obtain. Ultimately that is my goal, to get off the benzos, since I never had any issues with anxiety anyway, just the abundance of Etizolam being around and the fact that they make sleep come easier had me fall into a slippery benzo slope that I'm still regretting, but I really want to get a prescription to adderall, I need it because I seriously lack motivation and have a hard time concentrating on shit that doesn't interest me. And amphetamines seems to fix that problem, lol.

I think the hardest prescriptions to get would obviously be pain killers like opiates. I know stimulants have their abuse potential but it seems that a majority of drug users prefer opiates.

Of course this is really just my observation on prescriptions and not fact. But benzos definitely are easy to get. On my last visit the doctor basically asked me if I would like more benzos than I'm already on. The druggie in me wanted to say sure, but I really despise benzos and how I unintentionally fell into their trap with no reason. If I had more lying around then who knows, I'd probably gobble them up because I can't help it, or at the very least, it's very hard for me not to help it.

It is, but I don't find it worse than oral. With oral by 2-3 hours I'd say "a bit more", 2-3 hours after that "a bit more" and so on. Smoking I might come back for hits on the 15s in the first hour, but after that I'm good. Once I reach a ceiling with it, I'm okay. I never quite reach that ceiling with oral dosing, and the duration ends up wrecking me, worse than vaping would because it lasts so long.

Oddly enough I have pretty good self control when it comes to stimulants. My first trial with meth I had to redose because I knew I hadn't taken enough. But once I was high, I only needed that one dose for the day. I honestly don't even recall having any cravings whatsoever. I feel like if I vaporized it though it would have been gone on that first trial run day.

 

[coelophysis]

Good is this shit going fast! Reminds me so much of a few years ago! Absolutely ace discussions going on as well! You know it's going good when your confused on where exactly to jump in at because there's so much discussion and someone is posting every fifteen minutes!

Pfft, more like every 15 seconds.
Man day light savings time is fucking me up. It feels way too early in the evening still to already be 5 am. I should not have taken that hour long nap after I finished mowing the lawn today. But it was so hot and sunny, it drained me. I took a shower when I was done and laid down just to take a breather and the next thing I knew I was asleep.
I should probably start thinking about bed but I'm feeling way too chatty. I gave up caffeine as a new years resolution but I slipped and had a Coke about 2 hours ago now. I'm wondering if that's the reason I'm still wide awake and wanting to chat. I wonder if my tolerance really could have gone down that drastically. Weird.

How are you doing tonight cutie?

 

[PepperSocks]

Naw, I can't even get a PRN benzo script. I had one in the past, but the resident wouldn't give me one. I might be able to get one through my actual, senior doctor, but even then it certainly wouldn't be daily. A bottle of 30 will be expected to last me about a year, come back in 2 months asking for more; tough shit. If I only use it for comedowns every once in a while it can work like that.

My benzo problem kicks into high gear if I need sleep, and I live in an apartment with noisy neighbours.

taking dried poppy seed tea sublingually is nasty. This batch especially. I drank the first 2 pulls long ago, and did 4 more pulls after that, to grab everything I could. I boiled it down, then in a double boiler when the bottom was getting close. Scrapped it up and put it under the tongue. I wonder how much mold germinated and got extracted in those later pulls.

Anyway, sublingual seems to be the most efficient way of doing it. Not all of it goes to the blood bypassing 1st pass as a lot gets swallowed, but better than swallowing it all.

 

[coelophysis]

Wow that sucks but is also a blessing in disguise if it's hard to get benzo scripts like that lol. Be thankful.
If you're only using them for comedowns then I highly doubt you're coming down every day so it should be enough. Once I'm off of benzos I plan to keep my prescription going so that I can have a stash just for comedowns.

I've never heard of sublingual poppy seed tea. How long does it take in comparison to the shake and washing of the seeds method? is it worth the work?

 

[PepperSocks]

Yeah, comedowns are the only time I crave benzos, and in a rough comedown when you just want your jaw to loosen, heart rate to go down, and get some sleep, the desire for a benzo at that time is huge. This is the first I haven't had them for comedowns in 6 years, and it's obvious why I sought them. I'll agree daily benzos are the devil. For sporadic use on comedowns they are not only pain relieving, but neuroprotective. I don't think staying up with fried nerves and audio hallucinations is more healthy than taking a benzo. I don't crave benzos if I can sleep without them. Comedowns without benzos are the devil.

Sublingual PST is brewing the tea like normal (shake, filter, repeat), then collect the filtrate, and boil off the water. When nearing the bottom of the pot (casserole dish for me), use a double boiler so after water in the PST dish is removed the residue doesn't get super hot and destroy the goodies. When the water is gone all the goodies are contained in a solid crust on the bottom of the dish. Scrape it up, put under tongue.

I tried vaporizing it like opium, but it mostly burned before vaporizing morphine. I once had a very clean residue, light brown, lines of needles in it; I wondered if I could snort it. I crushed it up, took a line. Wow, burn, not as bad as 2C-E, but bad for the amount that went in and the effects I got. After that I figured sublingual was the best option other than just swallowing it. Swallowing it is the same as drinking the tea, without so much water consumption.

Oh effects; ya it's a bit stronger and kicks in quicker. I can feel it in 10min, full by 30-40min. It might just be stronger due to quicker accumulation. It doesn't last as long; 6 hours or so, so regular oral opiates, whereas the tea is like extended release.

 

[xammy]

Under 24 hours to the finale :3

 

[PepperSocks]

I want to post a humorous picture as to why you shouldn't do drugs, but it's a bit much and quite NSFW.

I have a raw spot on my hoo-hoo-dilley from masturbating too much on meth. :D

It's like a torn off callus.

 

[coelophysis]

Yeah, comedowns are the only time I crave benzos, and in a rough comedown when you just want your jaw to loosen, heart rate to go down, and get some sleep, the desire for a benzo at that time is huge. This is the first I haven't had them for comedowns in 6 years, and it's obvious why I sought them. I'll agree daily benzos are the devil. For sporadic use on comedowns they are not only pain relieving, but neuroprotective. I don't think staying up with fried nerves and audio hallucinations is more healthy than taking a benzo. I don't crave benzos if I can sleep without them. Comedowns without benzos are the devil.

Sublingual PST is brewing the tea like normal (shake, filter, repeat), then collect the filtrate, and boil off the water. When nearing the bottom of the pot (casserole dish for me), use a double boiler so after water in the PST dish is removed the residue doesn't get super hot and destroy the goodies. When the water is gone all the goodies are contained in a solid crust on the bottom of the dish. Scrape it up, put under tongue.

I tried vaporizing it like opium, but it mostly burned before vaporizing morphine. I once had a very clean residue, light brown, lines of needles in it; I wondered if I could snort it. I crushed it up, took a line. Wow, burn, not as bad as 2C-E, but bad for the amount that went in and the effects I got. After that I figured sublingual was the best option other than just swallowing it. Swallowing it is the same as drinking the tea, without so much water consumption.

Oh effects; ya it's a bit stronger and kicks in quicker. I can feel it in 10min, full by 30-40min. It might just be stronger due to quicker accumulation. It doesn't last as long; 6 hours or so, so regular oral opiates, whereas the tea is like extended release.

Very interesting. Even though I'm trying to stay away from Poppies I may have to give this a try just to see how it is. Thanks for explaining it to me. I'll see if I can try it tomorrow and I'll let you know how it worked for me. Honestly I'm very intrigued. I've always hated drinking all that damn tea. It becomes hard to get down. I doubt I'll fall into any kind of habit because what annoys me more than day 3 having no effects is the entire process of shaking and filtering lol. Squeezing it ends up hurting my fingers and wrists, it's quite annoying. But this method sounds too interesting NOT to try out. I don't know if I'd go the sublingual route though. I'd probably just swallow it down.

I want to post a humorous picture as to why you shouldn't do drugs, but it's a bit much and quite NSFW.

I have a raw spot on my hoo-hoo-dilley from masturbating too much on meth. :D

It's like a torn off callus.

Fucking Yowzers. I know what you're talking about and those are the fucking worst lol.

And dude post the funny pic! If it's nsfw, well then that's what the tags are for!

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Speaking of meth, I had a close call last night at work . I don't think I want to do any more of it lol, especially not IV.


Oh P.S.

Spoiler: Re: Fapping

NSFW:

Spoiler: You know what want to

A good way to capitalise on meth's perviness while alone is to get a tight pair of underwear or something like compression shorts, lie down w some choice material & just tap taptaptaptap tap tap like you would a bongo. It's a nice way to kill an hour or three in the dark, morning hours. It doesn't cause any chafing IME & the payoff is intense . You can also make it more innarresting by putting a sock on under everythang.

 

[pharmakos]

i think he would have bee a fan of dissociatives too if they'd been more common in his day.

they don't get mentioned in the movie, but in the book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas there is a chapter where Hunter takes Romilar (DXM) capsules.

Moral of the post though; I wouldn't want my 10,000th post to be anywhere else on the forum other than our beloved PD social thread. Here's to another 10k of mostly nonsense mixed in with some feels.

i made my 10,000th post in the PD social as well

cops in great britain don't have guns

there is a very funny Bill Hicks bit about this...

You know, my biggest problem with the whole thing was the blood lust that everyone, that came out of everyone, you know? This blood lust, man. It’s really unbelievable. Like I was over in England – you ever been to England anyone? Been to England? No one has handguns in England, not even the cops. True or false? True. Now! In England last year they had fourteen deaths from handguns. Fourteen. Now! United States, I think you know how we feel about handguns. Whoo! I’m getting a warm, tingly feeling just saying the fucking word to be honest with you. I swear to you, I’m hard. 23,000 deaths from handguns. Let’s go through those numbers again cos they’re a little baffling at first glance. England, where no one has guns: fourteen deaths. United States – and I think you know how we feel about guns; whoo! I’m gettin’ a stiffy – 23,000 deaths from handguns. But there’s no connection . . . and you’d be a fool and a communist to make one. There’s no connection between having a gun and shooting someone with it, and not having a gun and not shooting someone. There’ve been studies made, and there is no connection at all there. Yes. It’s absolute truth. You know, fourteen deaths from handguns– probably American tourists, too.

‘Call this a sandwich? (three gunshots) You don’t boil pizza.’ (two gunshots)​

‘That’s the way we eat here! S’way we eat here!’ (three gunshots)

‘This food sucks!’ (three gunshots)​

And boy, does it suck. OK. Great. If I’d had a gun, I would have been number fifteen on that fucking list. You know, fourteen— OK, though admittedly last year in England they had 23,000 deaths PER soccer game. All right. OK, OK. Not saying every system is flawless, I’m saying if you’re in England, don’t go to a goddamned soccer game and you’re coming home, OK?

It’s weird. They don’t have guns in England, but they have a very high crime rate, which tells you how polite the fucking English are.

‘Give me your wallet.’​

'Alright.’ ​

At least no one was hurt. (laughs) How d’you have a crime rate and no weapons, man? Does the guy walk into a bank:

‘Give me all your money . . . I’ve got a soccer ball!’​

‘Shit, Ian, that’s a Spalding. He’s serious. Hand over the pounds!’​

 

[xammy]

Does one time MDMA usage cause temporary memory impairment? I have this party coming up next weekend but I have an exam 2 days later that I have to pass

 

[pharmakos]

there's a definite possibility that it will. make sure to take antioxidants before/after your roll. and maybe even find 20 minutes to study for your exam while you're rolling. :D you'd probably remember the stuff really well then lol.

 

[effingcustie]

Does one time MDMA usage cause temporary memory impairment? I have this party coming up next weekend but I have an exam 2 days later that I have to pass

i don't remember ever having this problem, and did quite a bit of mdma in college. in particular i remember the first time i rolled i had a test the next day that i studied for for an hour in the morning before class and aced it.

 

[xammy]

Yeah, i dont recall having too much memory problems either after MDMA. But this exam has 2 books and the other one is in English which obviously isnt my native language, a lot of pretty complex stuff to remember.

 

[Xorkoth]

Meth in a nutshell. I'm absolutely gobsmacked how a methyl group can do so much. Regular amp would last me forever. This stuff with it's heady high just wants me to keep consuming it, the minute difference of an N-methyl is astounding. I thought oral dosing would be like how I did regular amp, but I could do regular amp and be happy with my grooving high, not constantly desiring more. In a way it's a detraction from the high itself; to want more. When high you should be satiated and comfortable. Meth is findamentally different though; very heady, the most psychedelic non-psychedelic ever. I'm pretty sure serotonin release plays a big part in it, and why it's mucked up MDMA for me. And how it's likely more neurotoxic.

I've tried meth 3 or 4 times, from my ex-neighbor. I smoked it each time. I agree with you, it's quite compulsive and very different from regular amphetamine... reminds me a bit of MDMA but much, much more physical and less lovey (but still lovey to some extent). Fortunately I never had any of my own, he offered to sell me some once and I almost said yes and then said no. I knew it would be a bad thing. The thing about it is, the comedown is so wretched for me that I never want to do it again soon after I do it. I always end up taking poppy seed tea to make myself feel non-shitty, even if it meant breaking my tapering regimen. As a result I am not too keen to do it again.

Speaking of amphetamines, that 4-FA last night was interesting. I redosed once after a couple of hours. The euphoria was quite nice, and there was a light, airy feeling in the center of my head, that grew and grew, eventually I felt like mjy head was floating. After several hours it developed into a bit of a headache. I started feeling a little come-downy, so I decided to take 15mg of MXE to see if it worked like ketamine does. It did bring back a bit of the euphoria and made me feel much smoother physically. So after a while, I decided I was going to have a moderate MXE experience, no trying to hit the oneness or anything, just relax with music and feel nice. So I took 35mg more, and then a couple of tiny dabs with my finger when that wasn't quite enough. I proceeded to have a very weird MXE trip, it was strong, but it felt less "real", like I was a bit removed from it. I was a little more mentally sober. Also, I had a weird headache the whole time, it was centered in the spot that the 4-FA gave me a heacache but it felt like a flat line expanded into a plane across my whole head, going straight through my head through that center point, so there was like a very thin disk of pain. It was small so it didn't hurt overall that much, but the part that hurt hurt quite a bit. It stayed the whole time and I was aware of it constantly. It even lasted afterwards when I was mostly down and trying to sleep. This morning I woke up without a headache, but feeling absolutely exhausted and every time I stood up I would get a terrifyingly powerful head rush, the kind where your vision sparkles and starts to fade out and you can barely stand. I almost fell over in the shower. I went and got some poppy tea and I feel significantly better now, but I feel like I took a beating. I don't know if it was the 4-FA, the combo with MXE (most likely as I never remember 4-FA having much of a comedown years ago)... it's probably also because it's been 3 days in a row that I've done drugs. I think I learned that I can't do how I used to when I was in my mid-twenties anymore. Well that's good, I know I was overdoing it a bit, I was having a surge of euphoria that I can again and that I got a few items for my stash. Live and learn.

i need to go back to the psychiatrist and get more adderall, i miss that stuff

I like Adderall the most of any amphetamine I've tried, I have had some amazing times on it, it makes me feel so warm and functional and nice.

Good is this shit going fast! Reminds me so much of a few years ago! Absolutely ace discussions going on as well! You know it's going good when your confused on where exactly to jump in at because there's so much discussion and someone is posting every fifteen minutes!

Hell yeah! PD Social is straight bumpin'! I love it.

I've never heard of sublingual poppy seed tea. How long does it take in comparison to the shake and washing of the seeds method? is it worth the work?

I have never heard of that either. Samadhi_smiles once tried reducing it down so he had a sort of opium-like goo, he smoked it and said it was dirty feeling. I always just get a 64 oz Gatorade bottle, preserve half the loquid, and put just under 2 pounds of poippy seeds in there. Then I shake it up for 5-7 minutes and slightly unscrew the cap and turn it upside down, squeeze the bottom until I develop a fold-over part that I can compress as a sort of lebel to squeeze all of the juice out. I drink it (32 oz of liquid) and then make another extraction. Then after a couple of hours I pour all the seeds out and put in another pound roughly and do the same thing. Always gets me really nicely opiated.

PepperSocks, how come you reduce it? Just don't want to drink all the liquid? Or is it specifically for sublingual? Some people think the tea is nasty, I don't think it is even with plain water but with lemon-lime Gatorade it's quite tasty actually.

<picture of True Detective>

That's a picture of True Detective, right? I just watched the 7th (most recent) episode this morning. I freakin' love that show, it's SO good. So the next episode is the finale already? Will there be more seasons or is it like a 1-season mini-series?

 

[xammy]

There will be more seasons, but with different cast and different story.

I just took 25mg of MXE in a capsule, this should help with this irritating hangover I have had all day. Weed helped a lot already