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ColtDan: Steady on mate. Indulging in Benzos to sort an Opi problem sounds like a bad idea. You sound like an early version of my self, you even share the same name. I started with innocent use of stimulants and always used to say "I'm a stimulants guy" while using opiates and benzos but before I knew it I was using both heavily and had completely forgotten about stimulants. So go steady mate as both of those addictions we'll give you an addiction in no time.
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Cheers, i have no opi problem that was a one off, ages ago i used to do them every weekend then easily stopped

Woke up pretty fresh. thank fuck i got to sleep, that nodding and feeling sick was driving me nuts
 
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Hope you're feeling better today fg.

Mental Kenny said:
Why are you here and not on Beeg, xvideos, pornhub? That's the only thing you can do when you can't sleep after too much speed
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Don't worry the monkey was thoroughly spanked, and morals of video choice steadily decreased with time.
 
Nah Kratom is much more forgiving than that, I easily went six months of daily constant use, quit CT and had no WDs to speak of.

MDB: you might have felt WDs from kratom even after very short stints of use with it, because your body was already hooked on other opiods.

Kratom is incredibly forgiving in the beginning, as long as you are a opiate-naive person with no previous habits.

You can probably get away with eating it daily for months on end and not have any issues quitting.
 
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Mental Kenny said:
Nah Kratom is much more forgiving than that, I easily went six months of daily constant use, quit CT and had no WDs to speak of.

MDB: you might have felt WDs from kratom even after very short stints of use with it, because your body was already hooked on other opiods.

Kratom is incredibly forgiving in the beginning, as long as you are a opiate-naive person with no previous habits.

You can probably get away with eating it daily for months on end and not have any issues quitting.
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how long have you been taking it Kenny, do you give yourself breaks form it, or use it continually on a dayly basis ?
 
I've had previous habits (and far more extensive use of opioids than MDB) and I haven't felt any discomfort from stopping, even when I've used kratom following a two-day oxy binge. Had I used an actual opioid on that third day, I'd have at least mild withdrawals to look forward to, but I felt nothing.

As you suggest, maybe MDB's problems stemmed from actually having bupe metabolites still in his system. I don't know. I do believe that the opioid receptor action is a relatively small component of kratom's effects profile, however.
 
yeah that adrenergeric action with red vein thai is something else, im not sure how strong the SNRI properties are. I've still yet to regularly find my 'sweet spot' properly with that strain, 1 heaped tsp doesnt seem to be quite enough, 3 can be too much and cause tremors and dyfunctionality. That suggests 2 would be the ideal dose but soimehow thats not quite hitting the spot this time round. With red vein borneo, any dose is good, whatever i happen to be doing on that stuff, i feel good about doing it. Time flies by on both strains though. What other strains would you recommend Kenny ?
 
mydrugbuddy said:
yeah that adrenergeric action with red vein thai is something else, im not sure how strong the SNRI properties are.
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It tends to give me the kind of erection I'd normally only be able to muster if I were hypomanic or if it were first thing in the morning. Or maybe if I were stable, but that doesn't really happen too much. Whether it's down to SNRI action or something else is anybody's guess.

Sorry about that, but it's a very noticeable effect. :D

With regard to SNRI action, it doesn't give me any problems when used alongside lithium, and lithium is to be used with caution alongside SNRIs because of the risk of serotonin syndrome. So again the SNRI activity is in all likelihood relatively mild.

I've definitely not felt jittery from it. I'm using around one-and-a-half to two heaped tablespoons per dose too, so it's not like I'm taking small doses. Maybe lithium is a factor in this?
 
mydrugbuddy said:
how long have you been taking it Kenny, do you give yourself breaks form it, or use it continually on a dayly basis ?
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I started in the spring of 2007, first couple of months it was just something I would take to decrease my social anxiety before uni, so when having lectures, let's say 3 or 4 times a week. Then it quickly became something I would take every night to chill.

Soon I started doing it daily, went a whole semester of daily use, without even giving a thought about the fact it might be addictive, anyway, end of semester, I go back home, no WDs, nothing no symptoms.

After that I started using it again, this time daily for a whole year, when I first had a delay in delivery I then realized that it was indeed physically addictive, at the time, I wasn't expecting any WDs but went on to opiophile and found out it was common with prolonged daily use. Mind that during that time I didn't use any other opiate/opiod.

So I would say that for me, before you really start having trouble quitting you need to really look for it, as in dosing daily for months if not years.

What made my WDs escalate was the fact that for some periods I also added both isolates, extracts and oxycontin on top of my daily leaf, that's what turned the WDS from something bearable I could go to work like I had the flu, to something that would have me locked in the house for a week puking on myself.

Since 2007, I have done kratom every day, except for a five month break while working in Lebanon(no functioning postal service there), four months in Australia(banned), two months in Abu Dhabi, and this summer between July and October when I took a break.

All other moments since 2007 I've had kratom in my system on a daily basis.
 
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That's interesting MK. Wtf do they do about mail then?
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Well as you're probably aware Lebanon is basically what we(even though I'm in between jobs at the moment/as in jobless) refer to as a failed state, the government has absolutely no control over vast areas of the country, for instance when I travelled to the Bekaa valley, in the streets you don't see government soldiers patrolling but Hezbollah militants, with their own uniforms.

Same thing goes for certain areas of the north(Tripoli) and the south, obviously, around the Litani river, where militias can do whatever they want, hence the frequent violations of territorial sovereignity by the IDF.

When it comes to services, it's normal for people in Beirut, even in the wealthy areas like Achrafieh to buy water from private entrepreneurs, most houses have water cisterns on the roofs as the water supply is unreliable. It's also standard for buildings to have generators as the state electricty company cannot guarantee service and blackouts are a daily occurence.

Don't even let me started on garbage collection or street cleaning.

Basically it's as close to a libertarian paradise as you could imagine, people buy services that in theory should be provided to them by the state from private entities.

Getting something shipped to Lebanon is more than a gamble, their postal service is a joke, plus due to security issues a package like a kratom jiffy parcel, large and heavy, would 100% be opened and even if the contents are legal it will not be delivered.

I have a lot of friends in Lebanon and they're jealous at the fact we can buy stuff online and have it delivered, I think places like Amazon don't even ship there as a policy, as nothing will get delivered.

We have it good here in Europe my friend, very good
 
ColtDan said:
George Michael gave up cannabis because it gave him a Westcountry accent
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Bwaaaaaahahahahahhaahahaa! Fair tickled me did that =D

It's actually a Thing dontcha know. Coming round from a head wound/trauma speaking in a different accent. Really very odd indeed. For an example of a woman with a (strong) West Country accent who woke up speaking with an ostensibly Chinese (although I doubt anyone from China would recognise it as such - it kinda has to be heard to be believed :D) accent...

[video]http://documentaryheaven.com/woman-who-woke-up-chinese/[/video]

Shouldn't laugh cos the poor gal is really very upset about it and it must be a very strange and disturbing thing to happen to anybody. But must confess the accent is an absolute belter all the same. It's arguable whether it's an improvement over a West Country accent ;)

EDIT: Dunno why vidembed isn't working but at least the page will load a bit quicker. I'm sure y'all's fingers can use the exercise so make with the clicky-clicky.

EDIT2: Copywrite claim would be the reason presumably. Ah well, have a clip instead...

 
Mmm chewed a couple of those new white diclaz pellets about an hour and half ago, obviously I had already done 4 pyraz earlier, feeling pretty nice and chilled. Sun is out, if only it weren't for my gut problems, still getting chills and pain in my belly, annoying.

Anyway from what I gathered from my last experiments:

Pyraz: absolutely fantastic for anxiety, for work and social settings, not sedating, doesn't make you slur or stumble even at silly doses, just keep the doses as low as possible for anxiety relief when needed. Do not try to do it recreationally, it's a bloody waste, I went through 50 of the fuckers in 3 days trying to catch that benzo buzz or at least a stone. Use them medically for anxiety relief

Diclazepam: The best of the lot, strong on the body, decent sedation and mood lift, lasts for ages, good price/effectiveness ratio. These have the blackout potential though, so be careful not to overdo them.

Flubromazepam: Can't wait for the powder to arrive as those 4mg pellets were a piss take from the vendors, hate to have to take four tablets just to feel anything. They're good.

Anyway, we're pretty spoiled with RC benzos at the moment, hope it lasts
 
Wow Mental Kenny you going strong on em benzos eh? Take care.

Diclazepam pellets is weak as fuck imo. but ok Mine was not white, they where greenish.
 
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