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Interesting you chose to go with that ratio. I would have flip flopped the doses for each of the chems. What made you choose to go with that dosing strategy?
 
I wanted less of a hangover and less of a serotonin dump, and intended on having a fairly mild yet energetic social experience.

The first time I tried 5-MAPB at 80 mg I just wanted to sit and talk about my feelings and could barely move.
 
80 mg - empathy, a spaced-out "warm fuzzy" feeling, desire to listen to music and dance, intolerance of loud/annoying/drunk people.

I feel pretty crappy today but that could easily be from eating a ton of shitty Superbowl snacks and smoking weed. A bit of jaw tension.
 
I've started seeing quite a few reports of heavy hangovers(depression, anxiety, headaches) associated with this. What I'm wondering: Has anyone experienced these type of severe hangovers in the following days after a single use (and without other chems involved) ? and it seems to me that this is being reported more so with 5-mapb than with any of the other apbs. Can anyone attest to that?
 
I wouldn't say the hangovers are any worse than a solid night-morning on mdma. Then again, I never take a lot of anything... My doses are always moderate-low. When testing these type of chems remember to eat healthy before and after, re-up on 5htp, Vitamin B complex, theanine etc to reduce any negative after effects.
 
atlantis4eva said:
I wouldn't say the hangovers are any worse than a solid night-morning on mdma. Then again, I never take a lot of anything... My doses are always moderate-low. When testing these type of chems remember to eat healthy before and after, re-up on 5htp, Vitamin B complex, theanine etc to reduce any negative after effects.
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This covers it. I personally have much, much worse hangovers and mood disruption from 6-apb at lower doses.
 
atlantis4eva said:
I wouldn't say the hangovers are any worse than a solid night-morning on mdma. Then again, I never take a lot of anything... My doses are always moderate-low. When testing these type of chems remember to eat healthy before and after, re-up on 5htp, Vitamin B complex, theanine etc to reduce any negative after effects.
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I am pretty good with my nutrients when coming down from rolls/etc. but the only amino acid i currently take is arginine. Can anyone recommend others for me?
Also, I always wait until I've slept at least a couple hours before taking 5-htp. this being of course because it would be dangerous to take while rolling, and I want to be safe. Is it absolutely necessary to wait until I've slept some, or is it okay to take during the comedown? I've noticed quite a few people mentioning 5-htp as if they commonly take it on the comedown from rolls/trips/etc.
 
Why do you says 5-htp is dangerous to take while rolling? Never heard that one before.... I usually take it during the comedown and/or right before bed. I also take 5-htp days before and up to a week or two after I take serotonin releasing drugs. Also always take with B complex; has a synergistic effect and works a lot better.

Weed and etizolam help the comedown/hangovers <3

I get worse hangover from alcohol! That's why I don't drink often and usually like a little dip of something else =D
 
I tried 6-APB - didn't think that much to it; stimulant and slightly trippy - didn't seem empathic to me; I am guessing 5-APB is even worse but 5-MAPB sounds pretty good from what I hear.
Out of interest is it cross tolerant with MDMA? I know methylone is but I was wondering about this since some liken it to MDA
 
Couple guys on the dutch forums say it's identical to mdma only more couch locked. Would this be accurate?
What would be the unique reason for trying 5MAPB if you already have plenty of pure mdma?

6APB for instance was totally worth it. Took it at ASOT 650 and had an amazing time (besides total lack of energy haha) It really has it's own feel.
 
heerutosen said:
Couple guys on the dutch forums say it's identical to mdma only more couch locked. Would this be accurate?
What would be the unique reason for trying 5MAPB if you already have plenty of pure mdma?

6APB for instance was totally worth it. Took it at ASOT 650 and had an amazing time (besides total lack of energy haha) It really has it's own feel.
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Well you guys did party for 10 hours straight. Hahaha so jealous.i could see lack on energy being an issue
 
Mazzab said:
Well you guys did party for 10 hours straight. Hahaha so jealous.i could see lack on energy being an issue
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I had an awesome time. Zoned out a couple moments with my eyes closed in my own world with black and white triangles raining down on me on beat <3
If 6APB had more energy and love it would beat mdma. Needed a high dose tho. Dropped 210mg and a 140mg redose 3.5 hours in. (I usually take 150-200mg mdma with 100mg 1.5 hours in or a whole press with a halve) So i either had a weak batch or my apb tolerance is naturally high.
 
Honestly if you have MDMA you probably don't need 5-MAPB. It's very similar but not quite as good.

I have a lot of 5-MAPB mainly because where I live it is extremely difficult to procure MDMA.
 
tasha_yar said:
Honestly if you have MDMA you probably don't need 5-MAPB. It's very similar but not quite as good.

I have a lot of 5-MAPB mainly because where I live it is extremely difficult to procure MDMA.
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Is it really that similar? No crazy toxic effects? Because MDMA is extremely hard for me to come by now that I dropped my drug friends but 5-MAPB I can get relatively cheaply.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Is it really that similar? No crazy toxic effects? Because MDMA is extremely hard for me to come by now that I dropped my drug friends but 5-MAPB I can get relatively cheaply.
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The effects are super similar for me. But it seems to vary drastically by individual, and I wouldn't ignore the reports of people experiencing long term come downs on the APBs. It's obviously not GOOD for your brain as the next day and couple days after are a bit rough.

I've only dosed very cautiously on 5-MAPB, twice, but it felt just like MDMA to me. Empathy, jaw tension, wanting to tell everyone how great they are, etc. I found the week after to be a lot worse with 6-apb and 6-APDB.
 
I think the assessment that 5-MAPB is a bit less energetic than MDMA is accurate.

Reasons to take this instead include cost and the possibility of a reduced comedown (and toxicity). It seems to have similar side effects when abused to MDMA, possibly a bit worse. Moderate use doesn't seem to cause problems (once per month, 150 mg per session max*).

Really I think it needs to be combined with a stimulant to ensure one gets the best from it as otherwise it can feel really intense but still lacking, which leads to excessive dosing. Approx 60mg with 15mg of 2-FMA or 25mg of 2-FA is a good combo and is very unlikely to leave no-tolerance users wanting more. A small amount of a tryptamine psychedelic rounds off the experience perfectly.

*bear in mind it's about twice as potent as MDMA.
 
Sounds amazing. I actually don't like being stimulated so this might be perfect for me. I'm overstimulated pretty much all the time in just every day life so I don't need it from a drug.
 
tasha_yar said:
The effects are super similar for me. But it seems to vary drastically by individual, and I wouldn't ignore the reports of people experiencing long term come downs on the APBs. It's obviously not GOOD for your brain as the next day and couple days after are a bit rough.

I've only dosed very cautiously on 5-MAPB, twice, but it felt just like MDMA to me. Empathy, jaw tension, wanting to tell everyone how great they are, etc. I found the week after to be a lot worse with 6-apb and 6-APDB.
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Never had a comedown form MDMA and after my last 6APB session tho i don't feel bad i have been unable to focus/concentrate all week. Tired too. Other than that i feel fine, just hope i can focus soon haha.

I guess i'll leave 5-mapb alone since i have plenty of mdma anyway. Next on the list is 6apDb or the 6apb/5apb combo. Need to treat these carefully tho, i can imagine suffering comedowns from these APB's
 
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