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Yes, fluorinated amphetamines are illegal here too!

Ethylphenidate is too dopamine selective and I would prefer not to mix releasing agents and reuptake inhibitors in the way too, even if they are very selective.

6-MAPB is likely to be less selective for serotonin but could work well if the rations were adjusted. These drugs were chosen for availability, pharmacological and price reasons.

We wanted to use MDAI 2-FMA and 5-MeO-MiPT but MDAI has been discontinued and only very expensive old stocks remain.
 
They were just banned here in the summer, along with 5 and 6 apb, mxe, 5-meo-mipt, amt, 2c-e, 25i and 25c nbome and a whole bunch of stims and cannaboids I don't care about.

Ok, I'll probably skip the eph/other stim entirely. I've had 5-mapb before and never felt like it needed more stimulation. But the additional trippynes from 4-ho-met would be great, that's the biggest thing I missed in 5-mapb compared to 5/6 apb.

I guess I'll see how the 6-mapb is on it's own first before attempting any combos..

Btw, do you think (other than the difference in duration) that there's any reason 5-mapb + lsd/lsz would be a bad combo?
 
No, I would be happy with that combination, so long as I didn't overdo either.
 
Thanks, I'm not going to have any 4-ho-met for a few weeks, but should have some 5/6-mapb, lsz and lsd in a few days, so...

I'll report back how it went.
 
100mg of 5-MAPB was insufflated with another friend at 12 in the afternoon.

The powder was white and fluffy, the line looked huge because it was so fluffy.

After bracing myself for a minute, I ripped the line. There is a slight sting and burn, and my eye begins to water. The powder is very fine and feels really uncomfortable in my sinuses. Too much powder at once. While not pleasant, 5-MAPB is not as caustic on the sinuses as some other drugs.
Come up was very rapid, almost startling. The head change can be felt after only 30 seconds. My palms instantly become clammy. Nausea. Too much, too fast. I have to throw up, almost do not make it outside the door.

My friend also feels the sharp come up. He lies on the couch. 100mg is too much in one go insufflated, recommend around 50mg, and then a 50mg redose, rather than all at once. Or less.

It takes about 20 minutes to become comfortable. My friend and I talk about various topics, as we have not hung out one on one in a while. The conversation is not forced, and while rushing is present, it is not quite as pushy and apparent as some related drugs. Weed is very nice with this.
We both note that textures seem to stand out more. Everything looks richer, brighter, and softer.

It was the middle of the day and now we had dilated pupils. The bright light hurt, so we hang a thin blanket over the blinds to block the light. It helps immensely. The blanket has thick stripes, and we notice that the red ones seem to really pop out vibrantly.

Our auditory perception was also enhanced. This was kind of unique. Everything sounded so much deeper. I decide to put on some music, and it sounds amazing. We both talk and listen to the music.

My vision became blurry almost as soon as I took the drug, and now nystagmus starts and my eyes begin to flutter. This is pleasant. But it makes reading a text on your phone very difficult. We settled on a local radio station as I was tired of tending to the music. I love this radio station, and we both agree the music has a significant effect on the high. It seemed like certain songs in particular would send my eyes bouncing.

When I close my eyes, there is a certain brightness. There are some colors and patterns. It is not distinct like with a psychedelic, this has much softer and less pronounced visuals. With my eyes open, there are no visuals apart from those already mentioned. There are slight tracers when I move my hand in front of my face, but there is no long trail.

It feels really good to listen to the music, and shut my eyes. My body is stimulated, but my mind is so relaxed. We both lay on the couches with our eyes closed. Sometimes we talk, and sometimes we relax in silence just absorbing the music.

After about two hours, we both notice a drop in effects. We take another small bump as a redose, about 30mg each. It brings us back up, but not as high as before. After about 30 minutes I notice my nose is dry and clogged so I go to the sink and rinse it out with water. There must have been a good bit of powder stuck in my sinus, as I can feel it hit me again when the moisture hits it.

After about another two hours, I decide to leave my friend and head over to my girlfriend's house. By this time most of the main effects have worn off, and all that is left is residual stimulation. I try to have sex, but I am just not into it. I notice I overheat easily, and my mind seems to wander. So I give up.

Even though my last dose was at about 4pm, I cannot fall asleep till very early in the morning, about 12 hours after the last dose. I do not think I drank enough water, as I kept getting hot throughout the night. Wish I had a benzo to help me sleep, as this part of the experience was not entirely comfortable. I drank a couple beers before bed, though my stomach could not really handle it.

This was my second experience with 5-MAPB. I would say my first experience was neither positive nor negative, but neutral. The setting was not ideal, too many other people around us that were not under the influence. The second time it was just me and one other friend, so the atmosphere was more laid back.

Over all it is an okay substance, but nothing really special, for me at least. It lacks the push and the magic. It seemed to lack the depth I am looking for. I would not really go too far out of my way to purchase again, and I am now out and probably will not be running any more experiments in the foreseeable future.
 
Transform, regarding your combo from the top - I just tried 6-mapb which feels more stimulating. I think you could do 5-mapb:6-mapb:4-ho-met with perhaps 50:50:10 (add more 4-ho-met if you want it more trippy, add some stim if it's still not stimulating enough for you.
 
I had the opportunity to sample this one last weekend. With all the negative stories on side effects I wanted to see how the week went before I posted my observations. My SO and I started off with 80mg each. We then boosted with 250mg 4MEC/30mg 5-mapb 2 times and finally 60 mg 5-mapb towards the end. The first boost was about 2 hours in and the next about 2 hours later and the final one (which was mostly wasted) about 8 hours after the initial.

I found the effects to be mostly positive. The empathy is there but it is not pronounced and forced. I prefer the overpowering empathy that makes you clumsily profess your feelings to complete strangers. This is empathetic but not near to that degree of MDMA/MDA or even MDMC/4MMC. It is a pleasant sort of empathy that makes socializing much more gratifying than usual but not overwhelming in its force. This would make a great social lubricant but is not suited to cutting through issues in relationships.

The euphoria is there but it is not in your face like MDMA or substituted cathinones. Again it is a light and controllable euphoria. I think it really does lack in this department. One would expect to see low release values for DA with this one. Possibly related to this is the complete lack of tactile and erotic elements. This was most disappointing for us and is what compelled us to add the 4MEC.

There is a fairly strong stimulation there but it does not make the experience uncomfortable at all. It is well received during the primary effects duration but it does seem to have some legs. The stimulation was the last effect to leave. I found it necessary to take 3mg xanax to get to sleep and I have zero tolerance for benzos.

There were some GI issues. I had to sit in the bathroom a good 15 minutes about 2 hours in and the wife was nauseated on and off for the duration.

The bruxism was brutal. I never have this problem but I did with this. I felt like I got punched in the jaw the next day. Take some magnesium for this.

I don't feel that the 6-mapb that is floating around would provide the missing elements of tactile and erotic as it doesn't have those elements itself either. So unless some sort of synergy comes about I don't see that combo adding the missing piece.

I plan on trying a 4-fa combo. If it doesn't cause too much stimulation this might be a promising combo and add the missing element.

All in all this is a pleasant chem but not a game changer. Those wanting to socialize will be quite happy. Those wanting an enhancement for the erotic will be disappointed.

MDMA>MDA>MDMC>4MMC>5-mapb>4MEC
 
Hi,

interesting that you felt strong stimulation from this. But then again individual responses to drugs do vary. Personally I've fallen asleep during the peak of 5&6 apb, 5-apdb and 5-mapb. I think your right about the 6-mapb. It would provide more stimulation, but since you had plenty of that and 6-mapb is more expensive....

Also, if you can find them try a combo of 5 and 6 apb (60-75mg each), it's really great. Another thing to try is the combo posted by Transform at the top of the page.
 
It makes me wonder whether everyone is getting actual 5mapb. Seems reports vary quite a bit. Ill post my findings in the next week or so, waiting on a shipment now. I had high hopes but the negative reporta concern me.
 
APBs seem to be wildly variable in general so it doesn't surprise me that 5-MAPB is as well. Set and setting likely play a large part in it. Just go into it in conditions that are conducive to a great time and watch your doses and I'm sure it will be a great time!
 
transform said:
20 took no more than 150mg 5-MAPB. I am in regular contact with 10 of these and none reported unusual (or really even unpleasant) side effects. I think mine were worst, with an uncomfortable headache in the following week.
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Interesting. Have we heard anything about severe after-effects where overuse isn't involved? Too many trip reports run something like, "I was on another drug (stimulant or entactogen), and then i took .4 gm. or more of 5mapb in a sitting?

5-MAPB already has plenty of serotonin release.
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Has this been established in study? It follows from SAR and known affinities for 5apb and 5apdb, but there have been surprises, like 6apb's surprising lack of affinity for SERT (if this one experiment's data pan out).
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I wonder if this is also a timing thing. What if you were to take 4fa in a way where 5mapb's serotonergic peak comes after the rolley peak of the 4fa? Might this mix work well and extend the serotonergic effects?


We wanted to use MDAI 2-FMA
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MDAI + a vanilla stimulant works as well as you'd expect on paper (ie, as an mdma mimic), but with reduced after-effects. I haven't seen any data on agonism at 5ht2b for MDAI.

ebola
 
Not heard anything about severe after-effects where overuse isn't involved, no. I concurr with your positon on this.

I am indeed just following SAR and subjective effects to claim that 5-MAPB is very serotonergic. I can't say I'm surprised about 6-APB not being a super-strong SRA though, thinking about its effects.

I think you could match it with 4-FA in the way you describe, but my gut feeling suggests it wouldn't be as good as selective agents being combined.
 
transform said:
I can't say I'm surprised about 6-APB not being a super-strong SRA though, thinking about its effects.
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Really? I sure as hell was. For your average user, 6-apb seems a bit like a less stimulating MDA.

ebola
 
I will be posting my tests on 5mapb tomorrow night or the following morning, im recieving an order tomorrow from a very reputable vendor. My girlfriend and I are going to start with a allergy test, then drop 100mg or so (maybe a single redose, but i am going to try to keep it low so i can judge after effects and such). Im planning on jotting down notes and reporting my findings.... I usually dont get excited about any of these rc's, but this one seems promising to me.

I started rolling in 2003 , and as a teen I waaaay overdid it, up til a few years ago I used to roll almost every night. But after a few year break and a little growing up I have learned to use sparingly (tho the magic has really diminished even with a few yr break) I guess long story short is that im hoping this is a good alternative, not necessarily a replacement as there will probably never be a true copy , ... but id be very happy to have a stockpile of a cheap alternate . Around my area there is barely any mdma, and even when there is I dont trust it usually.
Anywho, ill be reporting back in the next couple days with my findings :) hopefully it will help in some way
 
Well, my 5mapb arrived yesterday , and my gf and I tried it out last night . Definitly enjoyed the experience but it wasnt how I thought it would be. It was pretty euphoric, and we talked about all kinds of things , opened us up like a book lol. Touch was amazing, and we spent half the night if not more just playing in the bedroom.. i typically dont get all horned up on molly till i come down some, but we started playing w a vibrating back massager and it escalated into some pretty amazing sex .

I planned on doing a play by play TR, but i didnt really keep track of time, and alot if it we were banging like crazy soo... lol.
But we ate a small meal at like 4pm, then relaxed and had a few beers til about 8pm or so. Then we dropped 130mg in a zigzag paper, and watched a movie.
About an hour later we started feeling really good, light feeling and in a great mood, I made up another 75mg bomb for each of us and we took them.
Probably another hour went by and we put some music on, which was awesome....music seems godlike, esoecially kn loud headphones :)
Started to spin some lights over top of my girl, she was laying on the bed lookin crossseyed as fuck lol. I felt likethe photons and strings were a part of me, rhythm was not altered at all, if nkt enhanced. I have been spinning for alot of years and never really have given her a lightshow since weve been together , so she was blown away :) (not to toot my own horn but im pretty good at messin with eyeballs, 2strings is my thing and ill make u look like ur havin a seizure lol)
Anywho.. this went on for a bit, then we both snorted 50-60mg , in small increments so it wouldnt blow down into the lungs, and this is where its at! Snorting sent me to another level, nystagmus from hell, awesome feeling all around, we talked and rubbed each other down fir a while.. I can honestly say we are soulmates, even w/o drugs, but this connected us ob a much deeper level. After we talked and peaked hard, the back massager came out.. needless to say it was fucking incredible.
Which leads to the sex. F"ing mindblowing... were both freaks and this helped make things freakier lol . She and I both had multiple orgasms... long story short we are going to plan another mapb night soon, ive got a stockpile for us so :) ...

Sorry if this is winded, I planned a typical trip report but I couldnt really put in a time frame... all in all I liked it, def a good chem , not so much like mdma , sorta but not if u kno what I mean. Has alot of the same properties, but way less pushy, .. good for a night at home with your signifigant other, I imagine going out would be a blast too so ill have to trt and report back in a couple weeks .

If anyone has questions feel free to pm me, I kno I couldnt find much info when i looked and woulda loved to hear about it.. . . But then again thats half the fun sometimes with rhese rcs :)
 
SilentRoller said:
If I remember correctly, I found the SERT/DAT/NET values for MAPB once (I'll try and find them again), and it was some ungodly SERT value with almost no dopamine and a pinch of NET.
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Could you be thinking of 4-chloro-amphetamine? That's the strongest serotonin releasing agent that I'm familiar with. I tried finding the data that you referenced but could not.
 
Mixed 30 mg 5-MAPB with 80 mg 4-FA last night with cannabis. Went to a bluegrass event (my friends are obsessed, I prefer electronic and reggae) and had a really nice time. I felt talkative and calm, the 5-MAPB was felt pretty well at this dose. Dancing felt great and I was much looser than if I had just taken 4-FA.

Partner was feeling very amorous during comedown but I wasn't at all. These chems aren't erotic at all for me.
 
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