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EADD Heroin Discussion Nininininineteen [19] (I wasn't really sure what was going on)

Got some apparently lush gear, got .25 was expecting better tbh, didn't get more cus expecting v good. Very rare that my mates assessment on gear is wrong. Phoned him asked if same stuff and he said it was, ah well was still nice, good an floaty stricgling to keepnme head up at times, with good rush and legs, , was quick coarse gear, darkish orange so not fluffy stuff which has usually been what the better stuff is like.

Prices to weight ratio still nonsign of chang :\
 
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Well hello there Bluelighters! :) I hope everyone is keeping well!? I haven't been scoring much lately, so I've been keeping my head down. I find that things are still very hit and miss in Dublin.

I'm seriously beginning to think that I am the problem, not the gear. Because even when I score the gear that my friends are raving about, the gear they think is out of this world, I just think it's OKAY. If it's not pre drought quality, then I can't call it anything but OKAY. My mates agree it's not pre drought quality, but they still think it's amazing.... So, either everyone I know is mad, or I'm mad.... I think I'll go with me being mad, coz that makes more sense!

Anyway, I found this and thought it was funny. So, I thought I'd share it here to give you lot a giggle! :)

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...in-contains-six-spoons-of-sugar-2014020583256
 
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Hi Maxalfie! :) Yep, I still about. I'm back working again, thank god! Its a crappy job, but it pays the bills. I'm in college as well, so I've been staying out of trouble, most of the time... ;) How are you? I hope all is well your end.

There are a lot of crappy reports going around about Philip Seymour Hoffman death, I came across this one earlier and I actually thought it made a lot of sense, someone who actually gets it:

http://debiehive.blogspot.ie/2014/02/addiction-mental-health-and-society.html
 
Well hello there Bluelighters! :) I hope everyone is keeping well!? I haven't been scoring much lately, so I've been keeping my head down. I find that things are still very hit and miss in Dublin.

I'm seriously beginning to think that I am the problem, not the gear. Because even when I score the gear that my friends are raving about, the gear they think is out of this world, I just think it's OKAY. If it's not pre drought quality, then I can't call it anything but OKAY. My mates agree it's not pre drought quality, but they still think it's amazing.... So, either everyone I know is mad, or I'm mad.... I think I'll go with me being mad, coz that makes more sense!

Anyway, I found this and thought it was funny. So, I thought I'd share it here to give you lot a giggle! :)

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...in-contains-six-spoons-of-sugar-2014020583256

regarding the 'sugar in smack' article....is that why it sticks all over your teeth?
 
you dont necessarly hqve to wait 24 - 36 hous before doing your sub. just wait till youre sttarting wd's. even mikld ones like hot flashes, aches and a runny nose and you shoukd be good as theres obv no smack on yer receptors. taking a little sub before you iv h wilk not ease you in to your next sub dose, itll just block your h shot. go easy on those speedballs!
id also wait till youre in wd from your sub before your h. be careful, my friend, as if you take h too soon after your sub, you may think "this is shit", go for more h next time, but with lss bupe to block., youll od.

maybe try waiting 36 hours from sub to speedball every time so you can be more consistent. or better stil, smoke thr broon.
 
ok i just started on subutex. 36 hours off iv heroin, iv morphine and iv methadone.

doctors reckons 4mg will be enough as 40mg methadone would just about hold me.

took 8mgx2 thursday and 8mg friday, 8mg saturday and 8mg this sunday morning. havent been feeling really sick. im sure once my mind adjusts to a partial agonist instead of a full agonist ill feel fine. i plan to do 6mg for a couple of days and stabilise on 4mg for a week (maybe 2 weeks) before tapering down to 2mg.


my plan is to lower tolerance to 2mg/day subutex and take a day off every 2-3 weeks and enjoy a few speedballs.

i cant afford a daily habit, its not healthy, i want to start being productive again and believe subutex is the key to this. I no longer have any intention to be opiate-free for the next year or so.

any advice on taking short breaks from subs to play with heroin and then going back on them?

at 4mg/day would not taking my dose for the morning and waiting till later in the afternoon to shoot the H work around this blockade effect?

if i take a super small dose like 0.5mg before i start shooting heroin can i dose my subs earlier (like onset of Wds, instead of 24-36 hours off) without going into precipitated withdrawals?

im sure going back on the subs after a 24 hour binge on a full agonist wont invlove much if any discomfort in adjusting (as i will have already spent at least 2 weeks adjusting to a partial agonist before i take my subutex break)

im sorry, we dont have subs in ireland and i really dont know much about them. any info/advice/opinions appreciated.

thanks in advance.

you dont necessarly hqve to wait 24 - 36 hous before doing your sub. just wait till youre sttarting wd's. even mikld ones like hot flashes, aches and a runny nose and you shoukd be good as theres obv no smack on yer receptors. taking a little sub before you iv h wilk not ease you in to your next sub dose, itll just block your h shot. go easy on those speedballs!
id also wait till youre in wd from your sub before your h. be careful, my friend, as if you take h too soon after your sub, you may think "this is shit", go for more h next time, but with lss bupe to block., youll od.

edit: 4mg is quite alot o sub and easily ebough to block your smack for aa full day. sorry...
maybe try waiting 36 hours from sub to speedball every time so you can be more consistent. or better stil, smoke thr broon.
 
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....whoah be careful with subs after taking gear you will go in to PWD's if yuou just wait for a few sniffles - you need to wait for at least 24h or until you start to feel properly rough,subs are a partial and full antagonist so it will wipe out any gear on yer mu receptors.
 
you're doin well there ructions. I bet you hardly crave it like you used to . You were lucky that it stayted shit in Dublin after the drought. I'm really sick of it. It's strong enough here but I'm bored of it now. I've too much to do.
 
I can barely see!, my vision is so imcredibly blurry sfter pinning up. does anyone know why its so bad?! i dont even feel hig, just wlmost blind and relief from withdrawls will this c :/ ŷAhh. I'm used to slightly blurry but nothing like this.. I hooe it doesn't c csuse permanent damsge?
Sorry. :(
 
I can barely see!, my vision is so imcredibly blurry sfter pinning up. does anyone know why its so bad?! i dont even feel hig, just wlmost blind and relief from withdrawls will this c :/ ŷAhh. I'm used to slightly blurry but nothing like this.. I hooe it doesn't c csuse permanent damsge?
Sorry. :(

maybe cos it's 10 to 4 in the morning!!!
you likely been up smoking(using) all night.
just a thought
 
Been geting half grams lately (delivered) for £20 and the gear has been pretty good on the whole but soon I'm going to Dublin, so I need to detox.
I have 12mgs of Subtex (8mgs) and Suboxone (4mgs), which I plan to kick off at 4mgs intranasally, because that's always been a good starting point for me and then I just take the odd wee line here n there when I feel a bit rattly.

Today though my doc gave me 224mg Valium and 58 X 7.5,gs of Zopicolone (Zimovane). I also take 50mgs of Sertraline (Zoloft) every day.

I'm thinking of kicking off at 4mgs of Subutex and when that runs out, move onto the Suboxone and then use the Valium for any jitters I might have. The Zopiclone is for bedtime. I'm allowed 15mgs at night.

This should be fairly straightforward, should it not??

I should be able to handle that surely?
 
Been geting half grams lately (delivered) for £20 and the gear has been pretty good on the whole but soon I'm going to Dublin, so I need to detox.
I have 12mgs of Subtex (8mgs) and Suboxone (4mgs), which I plan to kick off at 4mgs intranasally, because that's always been a good starting point for me and then I just take the odd wee line here n there when I feel a bit rattly.

Today though my doc gave me 224mg Valium and 58 X 7.5,gs of Zopicolone (Zimovane). I also take 50mgs of Sertraline (Zoloft) every day.

I'm thinking of kicking off at 4mgs of Subutex and when that runs out, move onto the Suboxone and then use the Valium for any jitters I might have. The Zopiclone is for bedtime. I'm allowed 15mgs at night.

This should be fairly straightforward, should it not??

I should be able to handle that surely?

HaHa!:) Grams delivered for £40.8o And a doctor that gives 224?mg of Valium & 58 zimmos.
I must be living in the wrong area!!:!

If what you are saying is true and you're getting grammes for 40 something tells me you wont have much trouble getting off it!!;)
 
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Poach, I want your doctor! I'm also on Valium (tapering off of it though) and Zopiclone. I'm only on 7.5mgs of Zopiclone a night though, which doesn't work for me. Probably to do with my massive benzo tolerance. I've asked to be given more, but they said 7.5mgs is the most they are allowed to prescribe me! Is that bullshit? I have to use 15mgs one night, then nothing the next night which usually ends with me staying up all night.

I can barely see!, my vision is so imcredibly blurry sfter pinning up. does anyone know why its so bad?! i dont even feel hig, just wlmost blind and relief from withdrawls will this c :/ ŷAhh. I'm used to slightly blurry but nothing like this.. I hooe it doesn't c csuse permanent damsge?
Sorry. :(

maybe cos it's 10 to 4 in the morning!!!
you likely been up smoking(using) all night.
just a thought

Haha sorry for such an incomprehensible post! I find when I pick up from one specific person, my eyesight always goes incredibly blurry and I get double vision, even if I only use a small amount. Not sure if its good stuff or its cut to utter shit! I know it's normal to be slightly blurry, but it's so bad these days I can't see anything when I use. Thinking about it, it might be linked to me being diagnosed with Bell's Palsy just before Christmas. Is there anything I can do to make it less blurry? (Other than not using, hah). I use eye drops but they don't seem to do much.

Anyway I'm excited as I've finally convinced the substance abuse place I go to to put me on suboxone! I can't wait, I've been trying to get on a script since December. I've got till the 21st to get on it. It's my birthday next week so I do plan on using a lot to enjoy the last of my days on this, as I've just been using a small amount each day to stop the w/ds. Is this a terrible idea?
 
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All the gear I have copped recently has been fairly average.

Pissing me off trying to score today.

My main guy is off and all the other people I know either aren't answering or their phones are off....There's only one guy on, an asian guy.

His bags are shady and I wanted a teenth but he ain't doing um and will only give me 3 for 25 (standard) or 6 for 50....not even 6 for 45 .... tight cunt!
 
I'm confused with the terminology that I see repeated daily.


Teenth - tenth - 100 mgs?
How much is the going rate for heroin - (HR value, if I was offered a gram of Heroin for a bag of Monster munch then should I be concerned etc)
How does a g get broken down - ^ as above.
What is clucking
What does hash sign 1 - 2 3 - 4 mean ?

At what point does a person switch from snorting - chasing - injecting Heroin ?
 
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