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EADD Heroin Discussion Nininininineteen [19] (I wasn't really sure what was going on)

Theres a point actually, i got one of them sharps bins, the small one from the chemist last time i went, Similar to this one:

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And i cannot fucking open it.It says press on marked area, and i think somethings meant to open when you do, but nothing does, drove me mad trying to get it to open the other day
 
NAh i mean open the top bit to put stuff in, i'm not sure if its knackered or i'm just retarded. Probably both
 
.35 for 25 nice stuff, yeah the price ain't great. But its lush stuff. Off a Pakistani fella, from brum this stuff is.

All about being in a car, fuck weighting around in the rain. Thank God for my mate having monies to drive about, I hate wet feet.
 
Hi people, sorry I havnt been posting not in a very good place at the moment at my previous whining post will testify

Have managed to keep myself pretty much sedated and bedroom bound with a selection of street gear and various downer type rcs which while being mostly effective I know will only end in tears.

Street gear seems to have retained its quality since xmas id say there is a 3 in 4 chance of getting something half decent compared to 1 in 4 a year ago

Ive been smoking 2 to 4 bags a day along with a fair bit of weed.

As for the rcs Ive got myself a selection kit of benzo type pellets (Pyrazolam, Diclazepam, Etizolam) which im pretty impressed with. Id rather have a crate of rivotril anyday of the week but i find the effects of the diclazepam and pyrazolam typically benzo like with enough differences in their effect profiles to justify me having both. Ive just tried the intas etizolam blister strips for the first time as well and they're mad , half lifes to short for my liking but a couple of them will rubber you up nicely in a weird not quite benzo type of way. Great sleeping pills as well.

Ive also had a tat around with some AH-7921 ( did i get that right - if so its the shittest name for drug ever). Firstly in the name of HR it must be advised that people do not mess around with this notoriously sketchy chemical. Its difficult to guage doses and its possibly also been responsible for some deaths since its appearance on the rc market. I mention here on the heroin forum simply as a comparison as one notable feature is that I didnt have the inclination to go out and score on the days I used the AH which i thought was quite interesting. The first time i used it i took roughly 100mg followed by a 200mg booster about 2 hours later after id decided id be able to tolerate the stuff. The second dose brought on deep nod but with none of the cocoon like warmth of gear. By the time id come round properly i felt definately opiated my eyes were pinned to fuck but with none of the euphoria or mood enhancement of gear. It wasnt unpleasant by any means in recreational terms id liken it to a cross between methadone and codeine (sorry, ihavnt taken many pharm opiates so this is the best comparison i can do) with a leaning towards the methadone as I felt sort of listless and sedated throughout. Lasted at least 9 hours as well so there was no need for a redose and it helped me get my head down foyr the night (Id taken the original lot mid morning)

Right enough rambling here i am using up oxygen that someone else most definatley deserves more than me.
 
Sounds a bit shit. If you don't have the ccooon of warmth and it leans more towards meth, is it cheap, cus that might be a saving grace..

SO how much is cost? Or can you not say that? being a RC. no interest in getting it myself :\
 
i see that T***X dealing forum is gone. It's a shame it was always good for a laugh.
 
Lol aye i noticed tht rcently too, always made me chuckle. Funny thing is, like other common buy/sell sites people sell drugs openly on there, and barely anyone gets stopped unless they're shifting kilos of the stuff
 
Also, i got some free gear today off a friend who brought it over from home. its #3, smells a bit weird but is quite nice, thing is it dissolves with just a biut of heat n stirring, no cirtic.. which i guess is a plus?
 
It cant be #3 as its a base and so not water soluble - could be #4 that had been dyed brown for the EU market - or it could be something completly different - barbs, fent......etc go easy is all i would say - you could always burn some on foil and catch the smell.
 
wcote said:
Sounds a bit shit. If you don't have the ccooon of warmth and it leans more towards meth, is it cheap, cus that might be a saving grace..

SO how much is cost? Or can you not say that? being a RC. no interest in getting it myself :\
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its not worth the money at all you can find prices on google. ill stick to buying heroin in the future. with its long duration of effect it might be good for a taper tho if your trying to detox as there isnt many options available commercially that are full on opiod agonists

Thinking about it some more id buy it if was dirt cheap as while theres no real opiate glow there is a real opiate type serenity that lasts for hours, something i get in spades when I take methadone recreationally
 
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Kronos said:
Theres a point actually, i got one of them sharps bins, the small one from the chemist last time i went, Similar to this one:

SharpsBin1.4_lg.JPG


And i cannot fucking open it.It says press on marked area, and i think somethings meant to open when you do, but nothing does, drove me mad trying to get it to open the other day
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One thing I noticed,and was told about stuff you get in exchange packs is that almost all of it is 'seconds'..ie:imperfect.like the needles are often barbed,so not surprised your sharps box is fucked.

On a brighter note(sarcasm,people),the guy I used to swap my Benzo script for some of his MSTs,has died on me.Big shock as he was only my age.They say he died in his sleep.He was on a huge script and had just brought £300 worth of diazepam from a mutual friend,so maybe that had something to do with it.Really shocking but you know,all good things come to an end.Now I have to find someone else to get my MSTs from(not gonna be easy),but I am gonna reduce on what I have left.Then,I am going to ask my doctor if they can prescribe me something stronger for my pain(i get fen patches atm for legitimate pain needs).Gonna be difficult but i suppose it had to happen.
Such a shock to hear of his death though,poor fella(dunno why I say that cos he's ok now),but his daughter(they had a very rocky relationship)is obviously upset and I feel so bad for her.I know it would kill me to lose my dad.He was a real fuck head but he was a good heart and would always help if he could.He was one of those people that seemed indestructible...always getting into scrapes(quite serious accidents)and just getting away with it by the skin of his teeth.He will be missed.As will my regular supply of MSTs(sounds bad but is true).
 
steewith2ees said:
its not worth the money at all you can find prices on google. ill stick to buying heroin in the future. with its long duration of effect it might be good for a taper tho if your trying to detox as there isnt many options available commercially that are full on opiod agonists

Thinking about it some more id buy it if was dirt cheap as while theres no real opiate glow there is a real opiate type serenity that lasts for hours, something i get in spades when I take methadone recreationally
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With fent? Oh just re read, yous mean AH-7921. I concuur, it is shit. I used to love ODT, i got the whole warmth at peace thing even more than with gear (though i hadd unlimited access and huge doses at the time), was my first proper addiction that one cause if only been fucking about with gear, never neough to be a bit sniffly.

But yeah that AH-7921, its shit, you CAN get a nod from it, but you get no euphoria, no warmth, no pecefulness, it lietally was just a nod, which felt kinda shitty cause it had none of the good things. Stay away.

Also when i was trying this (a year or 2 back) i was hell bent on slamming it but apparently its v v v v v v corrosive, peoples mouths have blistered after trying sublingual and its more or less a 1 shoit k.o for veins. Just stay the fuck away, i'd prefer a kick in the teeth to that stuff.

Amd sounds utter shit kkhat :(, sorry to hear that. cant hurt to try your luck with the doc right? It cant hurt.
 
Wounder Kat in a different life Id might have tried to come to some arrangement about the benzos (IM talking hypothetics here please BL im not trying to source) but as ive mentioned in my previous post despite being a benzo abuser for 15 years now im quite happy with the rc benzos ive been stockpiling> Ive been at them for a month as well and weirdly enough I havnt started to notice any tolerance issues yet, something that was always a problem especially with clonazepam - my all time favourite

Hows your mouth been is it all sorted or do you have to go back to the dentists again?

RIP to your mate tho
 
steewith2ees said:
Wounder Kat in a different life Id might have tried to come to some arrangement about the benzos (IM talking hypothetics here please BL im not trying to source) but as ive mentioned in my previous post despite being a benzo abuser for 15 years now im quite happy with the rc benzos ive been stockpiling> Ive been at them for a month as well and weirdly enough I havnt started to notice any tolerance issues yet, something that was always a problem especially with clonazepam - my all time favourite

Hows your mouth been is it all sorted or do you have to go back to the dentists again?

RIP to your mate tho
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They took all my top teeth and filled and sorted the lowers
I have a plate but it is way loose so In a month or 2,I need to get a new one made that will hopefully fit properly
I really hate that denture glue so I am hoping a good fit will negate the need for that
 
how much is a 100 or 200mg MST? is this allowed - i think so. I ask because on holidays I came into contact with skenan morphine capsules (beads filled with powder) 100s and 200s which seemed incredibly cheap. Like a gram for 35euro on a good day.
 
ok i just started on subutex. 36 hours off iv heroin, iv morphine and iv methadone.

doctors reckons 4mg will be enough as 40mg methadone would just about hold me.

took 8mgx2 thursday and 8mg friday, 8mg saturday and 8mg this sunday morning. havent been feeling really sick. im sure once my mind adjusts to a partial agonist instead of a full agonist ill feel fine. i plan to do 6mg for a couple of days and stabilise on 4mg for a week (maybe 2 weeks) before tapering down to 2mg.


my plan is to lower tolerance to 2mg/day subutex and take a day off every 2-3 weeks and enjoy a few speedballs.

i cant afford a daily habit, its not healthy, i want to start being productive again and believe subutex is the key to this. I no longer have any intention to be opiate-free for the next year or so.

any advice on taking short breaks from subs to play with heroin and then going back on them?

at 4mg/day would not taking my dose for the morning and waiting till later in the afternoon to shoot the H work around this blockade effect?

if i take a super small dose like 0.5mg before i start shooting heroin can i dose my subs earlier (like onset of Wds, instead of 24-36 hours off) without going into precipitated withdrawals?

im sure going back on the subs after a 24 hour binge on a full agonist wont invlove much if any discomfort in adjusting (as i will have already spent at least 2 weeks adjusting to a partial agonist before i take my subutex break)

im sorry, we dont have subs in ireland and i really dont know much about them. any info/advice/opinions appreciated.

thanks in advance.
 
subutex has an extremely long half life, like 72 hours or something tryptamine. I dont think you'd get anything out of taking other opis on top of 4mg of bupe on the same day, as bupe clings to the opi receptors extremely strongly and blocks anything else from attaching to them. I dunno about the low dose of bupe thing as to whether that would work, the stuff is extremely strong, i suspect even doses as low as 0.5 mg would still block other opis but i dont know that for sure as ive never tried taking anything except kratom on top of bupe, and that certainly didnt work.
 
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