Actor Philip Seymour Hoffman Found Dead of Apparent Overdose

Ugh, I have read online the past few months about heroine being laced with fentanyl. As soon as I heard he died of an overdose I suspected it was one of those laced batches.

Fortunately, I have never gone down that road. Our society needs to come back to compassion. Unfortunately, the money isn't there to educate the masses. We need a more pragmatic solution, and it has to be multi phased.

- There needs to be a campaign to educate the public on how powerful the addiction is, and that it can happen to anyone and it has nothing to do with ones moral character. Needless to say, decriminalization, and access to maintenance programs that includes therapy as well. Perhaps even easy access to rx drugs like oxi or opana for people that aren't ready to actually go down the path of subs or methadone. I don't know.

Until people with opiate addictions can seek help without fear of being stigmatized or criminalized, this shit will continue.

I am sad for PSH's death. That said, how many 'city wide police searches' have been conducted after non famous people have died as a result of this heroin laced with fentanyl in it?

Sickening.
 
Felonious Monk said:
That would be really fucking heavy to record your own call for help...
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Yeah it would be hard to not ramble trying to explain your selfishness and shame and apologizing. LoL....I guess you would have to let whomever you designate know about the possibility of getting "the call".

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I was just thinking that if you have someone there to give you Narcan you're getting it a lot quicker than if a call first has to be made and an ambulance dispatched... That half hour is really pushing it and every second counts... Not saying it's a bad idea just needs tweaking.
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Yeah unfortunately where I live, the only way you are getting Narcan is from a paramedic or (if you are lucky) a police officer. There is a bill now to get it in all first responders vehicles but that isn't a done deal. According to the newspaper article on the bill, Narcan has a shelf life that makes the cost of maintaining the supply in all first responders vehicles somewhat substantial and they are concerned about the extra waste of having so much of it out there that might not get used in time.

Of course it would be great if you could get your phone to give you a shot of Narcan if you stopped breathing but I think that's pushing the limits of our tech in 2014. (Not really of course but nobody is going to design a device like that for "junkies".) It's bad enough that Narcan/clean works aren't handed out or sold to the public in all cities.
 
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It'll be interesting what they do if they actually can track down/locate the dealer who sold the heroin (that was possibly laced...I don't know much about that) to Hoffman...they'd very likely make an example of them. They should've done the same to the big money pharmaceutical companies after what happened to Heath Ledger, but hey, those fuckers are next to untouchable...
 
hood said:
Yeah it would be hard to not ramble trying to explain your selfishness and shame and apologizing. LoL....I guess you would have to let whomever you designate know about the possibility of getting "the call".



Yeah unfortunately where I live, the only way you are getting Narcan is from a paramedic or (if you are lucky) a police officer. There is a bill now to get it in all first responders vehicles but that isn't a done deal. According to the newspaper article on the bill, Narcan has a shelf life that makes the cost of maintaining the supply in all first responders vehicles somewhat substantial and they are concerned about the extra waste of having so much of it out there that might not get used in time.

Of course it would be great if you could get your phone to give you a shot of Narcan if you stopped breathing but I think that's pushing the limits of our tech in 2014. (Not really of course but nobody is going to design a device like that for "junkies".) It's bad enough that Narcan/clean works aren't handed out or sold to the public in all cities.
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The cost? I have seen a documentary that involved about needle exchanges/harm reduction groups and they said a 10 dose vial of Narcan costs $2.75. Meaning it costs what roughly 27 cents to save someones life.
 
hood said:
Yeah it would be hard to not ramble trying to explain your selfishness and shame and apologizing. LoL....I guess you would have to let whomever you designate know about the possibility of getting "the call".



Yeah unfortunately where I live, the only way you are getting Narcan is from a paramedic or (if you are lucky) a police officer. There is a bill now to get it in all first responders vehicles but that isn't a done deal. According to the newspaper article on the bill, Narcan has a shelf life that makes the cost of maintaining the supply in all first responders vehicles somewhat substantial and they are concerned about the extra waste of having so much of it out there that might not get used in time.

Of course it would be great if you could get your phone to give you a shot of Narcan if you stopped breathing but I think that's pushing the limits of our tech in 2014. (Not really of course but nobody is going to design a device like that for "junkies".) It's bad enough that Narcan/clean works aren't handed out or sold to the public in all cities.
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Basically they are saying that our lives arent worth saving. The lack of collective humanity is sickening.
 
Heath Ledger's father slams 'offensive' report in wake of Philip Seymour Hoffman death

The father of the late actor Heath Ledger has attacked reports that Philip Seymour Hoffman helped counsel his son about his supposed "drug addiction", calling them a "complete and disrespectful fabrication".

The reports, which surfaced on a website called Popdust and have since been repeated by British tabloid The Daily Mail, claim Ledger was "just one of many friends Phil tried to help".

It was the second time in as many days The Daily Mail ran false reports related to Hoffman, after falling for a hoax about an alleged hoax that preceded his death.

Citing an unnamed "close friend of Hoffman's" as the source, the reports claim Ledger's death "broke Hoffman's heart".

But Ledger's father, Kim, has rubbished the reports.

"This is a complete and disrespectful fabrication of circumstances surrounding any relationship Heath and Philip Seymour Hoffman may have had and very offensive to the memory of Heath for his family and friends," he said.

"Heath died from an accidental overdose of prescription drugs whilst suffering severe pneumonia and sleep deprivation.

"Our thoughts are also with Philip's family and friends during this tragic time."

Ledger was found dead in his New York apartment in 2008. The New York City chief medical examiner ruled his death was caused by an accidental overdose of prescription medications.

Forty-six-year-old Hoffman was found dead in his own New York apartment yesterday, reportedly with a hypodermic needle still in his arm, following a long and public battle with substance abuse.

http://www.portnews.com.au/story/20...n-wake-of-philip-seymour-hoffman-death/?cs=36
 
I read that as "my son didn't have an addiction, unlike this 'junkie' and it's preposterous that you would infer such a terrible link with my son, who died of an 'accidental' overdose and that of a nasty, evil, far-removed from my son junkie who died of a heroin (*shudder*) overdose."
 
Heath Ledger's dad is a dickhead.
How would he even know if his son were using "illegal drugs"?
OD from prescription drugs is more dignified and respectable, is it Kim?
Seems more likely to happen in the process of trying to get clean/off heroin if you ask me.
All speculation - no disrespect (except on behalf of Ledger's father).

I wonder how much of the increased popularity of heroin in the USA has been related to the increased attention/reformulation of oxycodone?
I seem to recall folks predicting this when OC80s became "abuse proof".
Street H is Russian roulette by comparison.

RIP Philip, you were a great artist.
 
caseface99 said:
The cost? I have seen a documentary that involved about needle exchanges/harm reduction groups and they said a 10 dose vial of Narcan costs $2.75. Meaning it costs what roughly 27 cents to save someones life.
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I was just quoting the officials in our state as reported in the newspaper. I suspected it could be bullshit. I hope you are right and this excuse is useless.
 
caseface99 said:
The cost? I have seen a documentary that involved about needle exchanges/harm reduction groups and they said a 10 dose vial of Narcan costs $2.75. Meaning it costs what roughly 27 cents to save someones life.
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Where does it cost that? I'm not finding anything that cheap.

In fact, when I put "buy naloxone no prescription" into Google, the results are pretty underwhelming.

I know my thoughts are a bit scattered here, but is there any company that mails fully-stocked harm reduction kits to individual consumers?
 
And today I see this http://www.lumobodytech.com/ which can be worn on the chest and provide ergonomic data to your handheld device. It would be easy to have this thing track respiration or movement and make a safety call. Am I crazy? I don't think watching people die because of prohibition/addiction is acceptable in this day and age. Until science can solve the problem of opiate addiction, technology might be able to minimize the harm/death.

Of course the fucking NSA would hack it and ruin everything I guess...Let's repeal the Patriot Act first. :)
 
They said in the news he had "fifty bags" which seems like a lot - how much is in one of those stamp bags in America anyway, both in terms of quantity and effective dosage?
 
East coast, ostensibly a point, more like a 0.07 realistically, and pretty good quality, perhaps 50% pure. Not that I've ever been to America. This is what I hear,
 
hood said:
And today I see this http://www.lumobodytech.com/ which can be worn on the chest and provide ergonomic data to your handheld device. It would be easy to have this thing track respiration or movement and make a safety call. Am I crazy? I don't think watching people die because of prohibition/addiction is acceptable in this day and age. Until science can solve the problem of opiate addiction, technology might be able to minimize the harm/death.

Of course the fucking NSA would hack it and ruin everything I guess...Let's repeal the Patriot Act first. :)
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The benefit of medical monitoring devices is that only paramedics are dispatched. If, on the other hand, a human being reports an overdose, you are almost guaranteed a visit by the police.
 
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Heath Ledger's dad is a dickhead.
How would he even know if his son were using "illegal drugs"?
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Yeah, and what kind of a doctor legally prescribes hardcore opiate painkillers for "pneumonia and insomia" FFS?
 
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East coast, ostensibly a point, more like a 0.07 realistically, and pretty good quality, perhaps 50% pure. Not that I've ever been to America. This is what I hear,
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And how much? From what I see on documentaries and TV shows people are usually paying like $10 a bag?
 
Well, I'm not sure if we're allowed to mention money, but yeah, I gather they're 10 individually, with breaks on bulk, naturally. Presumably, though, PSH didn't rock down to the corner in his parka, he presumably had a suave dealer-to-the-stars who offered safety, reliability and quality, and charged for his or her services accordingly.
 
$10K a month is ALOT of $10 stamps. Just sayin. It's always surprised me that people buying large amounts are still dealing with stamps. In the midwest, we don't have anything like that. You get a baggie or a foil with weight (often light).

I bought a stamp once on a train in NYC from a deadhead while in town for the MSG 93 run. It was sealed so well with heavy plastic that I felt safe trying it. It was labelled "Express" and had about three small lines of powder. I did one and sorta felt it and woke up the next morning puking a few times. Did the rest before that nights show and just felt tired. Had no desire to touch it again for over 10 years until the medical profession trained my brain for opiates.
 
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Philip Seymour Hoffman confessed: 'I'm a heroin addict'

A HAGGARD Philip Seymour Hoffman knew he was trapped in a downward spiral, readily admitting, "I'm a heroin addict,'' to a stranger two weeks ago.

It comes as his estranged partner, Mimi O'Donnell, emerged for the first time since the actor's death to make funeral arrangements.

Ms O'Donnell - the mother of Hoffman's three children - visited the Frank E. Campbell Funeral Home on New York City's Upper East Side along with Hoffman's personal assistant, Bella Wing-Davey.

Sources told The New York Post that there will be a private wake for family and friends at the 116-year-old funeral home at 1076 Madison Ave tomorrow from 5 to 9pm.

A funeral will follow Friday - either at 11 a.m. or noon - at St. Ignatius of Loyola at 980 Park Ave, the same church where services were held for Jackie Onassis was held in May 1994.

Hoffman has been reported as telling magazine publisher John Arundel at the Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah, that he was an addict after the businessman didn't immediately recognise him and asked what he did for a living.

"He said, 'I'm a heroin addict,' " the Washington Life Magazine co-publisher recalled for The New York Post on Monday.

Arundel said Hoffman then took off his "sloppy hat" and the publisher realised his mistake and said, "Oh, you're Philip Seymour Hoffman."

"Bingo!" the actor replied, according to Arundel.

Before Hoffman walked away, Arundel recalled, the Capote actor added, "I just got out of rehab."

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http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...-a-heroin-addict/story-fn907478-1226818084612
 
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