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difference between strains of weed and hash

I don't dislike the effects of some of those I've tried - at least not initially. Regular or heavy use doesn't agree with me at all though. I only use them at all due to cost issues (and availablilty issues although those could be worked around if I made the effort) So annoying that the cannabis market in the UK has become so intensely profiteering. Unless you buy it often enough to get a better deal, or buy in bulk,, it's just not affordable for the average, occasional user. I don't really want to be buying ounces or owt - just the odd henry here and there is all I want really but at current prices it's just not worth it. Guess I'll just have to go without.
 
Dont fancy cannabinoids instead then Shambs, no?

If the legal market in the US is anything to go by, I'd expect a price reduction of about 75% in a legal UK market. Meaning ganga would probably be about £50 to £70 an ounce.

Certainly, the danger of synthetics is becoming much more well known & they do seem considerably less healthy than cannabis itself, siezures & even strokes have been reported in recent months.
 
They're bad juju. Aside from anything else, they are definitely proven carcinogens.
 
Really? In my link to the JWH dude, you'l find that some of the cannabinoids he was working on have turned out to be cancer retardents!

Here's the link again - http://www.leafscience.com/2013/09/25/the-surprising-origins-of-synthetic-marijuana/

... & the relevent quote -

Huffman recounted to the Los Angeles Times in 2011 that one of the compounds he created, JWH-133, was shown to fight brain tumors and non-melanoma skin cancers in mice.
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Nontheless, I'd advise against smoking them! & I was taking the piddle Shambs, I saw what you said about having concerns ;)
 
It's not really the JWH series that are widely available these days though it it. Vendors have just been churning out more and more obscure ones each time one set is banned. Aside from cancer risks and other potential, unproven, health concerns, there's also the basic, observable fact that many of them leave deeply iffy-looking sticky residue behind. Stuff sets like superglue so can't be good for lungs. Horrendous for lungs I should imagine. They don't all leave such 'orrible gunk but several do. I actually had to chuck out at least one pipe cos it was so solid with rock-solid plasticky shite it was unshiftable. And yet I didn't stop then :\

Better late than never, I guess. It really is annoying that these things are only used by anybody because the real - comparatively harmless - stuff is illegal.
 
You would imagine with the advances in grow tech, hybrids, availability of seeds, equipment and knowledge via the internet that this would be a golden era for weed for all.
But going on this thread both quality and price are going the wrong way for many people.
 
They're just way more on it in terms of enforcement. If you play it smart, and grow properly, and without greed, for yourself, you can be smoking the utter piff, no worries.
 
I'm sure these are great times for cannabis connoisseurs... as long as they grow their own or are friendly with somebody who does. The rest of us are left paying sillymoney for it, and now quality ain't even guaranteed at said sillymoney :\

The weed market never used to be as mercenary as it is now. I don't begrudge a man a profit but profiteering is a whole other matter.
 
Yeah, the profits to be made brought in an increasingly criminal element. Now it's organised gangs, who often don't smoke themselves. We used to do it for the love, and to be able to smoke great hash all the time for free, but that kind of hippy dealer is a dying breed, I think. I overheard some guys on the bus talking about how it was straight up 0.8 for a tenner all the way, that the only people who still even talked about eighths were just trying to bring back the old skool. It made me feel like a dinosaur. And I'm only 25.
 
I get good weed but I can't get good weed. There are craft growers whose produce will by arcane routes sometimes come to me, but if I was to pick the phone up, I would get half the count and half the quality.
 
I was a heavy bong and bucket toker of hash between (97 - 2002) and then green (2002 - 2005), then the palpitations started and I had a two year period of abstinence, before getting on it again for about six months, then having an 18-month period of abstinence, only for me to start smoking green full-time again between 2010 - 2013.

I called an ambulance 3 times during 2010 -2013, and came very close to calling them on many more occasions. But I continued to smoke because I liked the high (when I didn't think I was going to die), there was an element of psychological addiction, and because it made me lose loads of weight despite eating fuck loads on the munchies.

I stopped smoking it again in October 2013, and now I am back to being a fat bastard, which really pisses me off. I'm tempted to get back on it again, but I can't be arsed with the palpitations, and this report of someone dying from a cannabis induced heart attack has put me right off.

Around 2010, I thought I'd go back to hash as it is supposedly less strong. It was no longer easy to get hash so I ended up buying this Pollen slate type of stuff which looked like this:

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It was pretty much every bit as strong as the green, I had a load of palpitations and ended up binning some of it.

I wish I could just smoke the way I used to. I'd love to get the type of stuff I used to smoke at lunchtime during school, sound mellow hashish that got you well blitzed but you weren't checking your bloody pulse, pacing up and down and calling for an ambulance!

Do you think it would be possible for me to obtain a mellow hash that allows me to get stoned without the palpitations, or do you think I am now incapable of smoking hash without experiencing palpitations? I would be interested in finding out what the most mellowest strain of hashish is, if anybody knows?
 
It's not the hash, it's you. I used to blaze around the clock, eighth a day, loved it, but then, slowly, the paranoia and discomfort crept in, and all the things I once enjoyed disappeared. It's sad, but no, I tried for years to find something I could enjoy smoking, every kind of weed and hash, eating it, vaping it, but in the end, it just became apparent that cannabis had fallen out of love with me, and I finally knocked it on the hed.
 
If I was getting palpitations from weed I would call it a day for good.

I mean you have called the ambulance several times, you sometimes pace up and down checking your pulse..... How on earth do you put up with the risk of that happening again, it would just suck all the enjoyment out for me.

Your like my missues as bit, weed just doesn't suit her anymore (well it never really did in her case) but she still finds it hard to say goodbye, even though it ends up really fucking with her head. She brought some weed last night, and I was furious with her! She just goes all quiet and introverted, and acts all paranoid.

I think people sometimes love the idea of being able to smoke weed and relax but when they can no longer smoke it, its hard to let go.

However a lot of the problem is due to weed having WAAAAY to much THC and fuck all CBD. Hence why hash can be all good for my OH. I mean your getting weed which is 18-20% THC and like 1% or less CBD, which is fucking nuts.
 
^Exactly right. It was like 3 or 4 years between me first starting to get uncomfortable when stoned and actually quitting. I'd end up pacing up and down, or having horrible anxiety, or, in social situations, feeling so out of place, thinking of things to say... there was a time when I loved nothing more than sparking up a fattie boombattie and banging out some ragga, and it was great, but that's gone. They always speak of addicts "chasing that first high", and that's how it ended up being. Once I eventually decided "no more", it became clear that I'd been clinging on to the memory of something that had actually been absent for a long time.
 
I have found that, when I my mates who were same age as me from about 18-21 quite a lot of my mates smoked weed, took e, coke whatever. But now people we in mid 20's loads of people have stopped smoking it altogether. This includes a few ex stoners.

They still do other drugs, although to a lesser amount, but the weed they have stopped, its can be weird when I visit and its only a handful of people actually smoking it, instead of the majority its a small minority. I sometimes talk to be people, and they admit they never truly enjoyed weed, they just wanted to get like those of use who would just get completely relaxed. But after a year or more they realised it just aint going to happen and they should stop. And then others just hit a wall.
 
I started smoking weed back around about 02/03 and I loved it I could get through 8th no trouble if I had the money that is even went thru half ouncein day between 4 of us and it was always fun I smoked it almost every other day from about 03 til 05 then started getting same symptoms babylonboy got the paranoia feeling out of place etc then I quit for ages probably about 2 years but fuck knows.

Anyway even after long break I tried it again to give it another go but has never been the same. I do enjoy the odd spliff now and then but only when I had a few drinks. Oh and I still love ragga ;)

Although I am getting some afgan hash soon and I heard its a indica strain so look forward to trying that, might get on with that a lot better than than stuff thats mainly about now :)
 
Cannabis is a drug that never outstays its welcome, when I was in my teens and early twenties nearly everybody smoked, now regular smokers ,or rather those who actually buy smoke are a
diminishing minority.
Nobody ever got into the ropes of trouble like you do from drink from puff and the idea of people dying from it is risible, but it will for sure fuck with your head.
 
gannetsarewe said:
Cannabis is a drug that never outstays its welcome
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for some people

, when I was in my teens and early twenties nearly everybody smoked, now regular smokers ,or rather those who actually buy smoke are a diminishing minority
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like I said!

Nobody ever got into the ropes of trouble like you do from drink from puff and the idea of people dying from it is risible, but it will for sure fuck with your head.
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definitely, and I'm not sure about the first bit either.
 
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