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EADD Benzo Discussion V. I forget

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Yeah, I didn't want to really say before now because I had the money to keep going initially and I felt it was was kinda against HR and felt a bit like dick-sizing (mine are all plastic sorry) to say what I was using but it is now an issue and I'm so close to finishing my work that I can't fuck it up. Also I missed two calls from my Mum yesterday cos I'd had a nap and when I rang back she said 'oh it's ok I just thought you'd taken your knock out pills and died!' so yeah. Needs to stop. I just need to be able to function til the 30th and then can really concentrate on getting it down. Is just the money thing, I'm living on £30 a week at the moment so debating going to the doctors and saying 'look...' but I dunno if that's a better idea or not.

Thanks for the advice on the manual btw, grabbing that now to read at home, and the advice in general <3
 
Sorry to say, but i think you'll find the doctors far less than helpfull. You will be very lucky to find one that would help you with this. You will be exhibiting 'drug seeking' behaviour unless you go in with a very clever angle. You could taper off them in a month. It wont be nice at the end, but it shouldnt be that bad either as you havent been on them that long. Maybe you could ask the doctors about seizures and stuff, and say that you are worried about that, that way you are not directly or actively drug seeking..........
 
Sam, I've never come across it either, to me barbs were something that hasn't been found since the '70s, but in that documentary a guy who apparently isn't into drugs himself finds a bag that he suspects to be "tootin' barbs shit". I don't know if perhaps it's a corrupted slang term, and that it actually refers to heroin, all I can go on is what appeared to be shown in that film.

mdb, though they have certain structural and functional similarities, methaqualone and its analogues aren't barbiturates.
 
Yeah, it's the seizures and stuff I was worried about last time, but I had to do it cold turkey then, stupidly, and it was one of the worst experiences of my life. I think I'll try with this 50 that I've ordered and just hope it gets me through the week and to when I have a bit more spare cash to do this 'properly'. I'm currently in the process of changing doctors anyway so didn't really wanna go in there with 'yeah so benzos huh?'. I've been prescribed them like, three times in my entire life.

Edit: Honestly, how does booze factor into benzo withdrawal? The first time I went through it I didn't know why I felt so so shit til I went for a pint (ended up having twelve 8() and realised I suddenly felt better. Like, I'm considering getting some cans in tonight just so I can concentrate on my work knowing that the etiz will show up tomorrow morning. I can remain functional to quite a high level but it kills the worst of the withdrawals and anyway I'm writing about James Joyce so I doubt anyone will notice even if I do end up pissed. Obviously the plan is to use the etiz to come off it but is booze a negative in cases where it's just to kind of maintain in absence of etizolam?

Hilariously my alcohol intake, although massive when I do drink, is entirely take it or leave it. Benzos are the first drug apart from speed to really get me and even speed was just a case of going 'well this is turning me into a massive arsehole' and stopping.
 
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babylonboy said:
Sam, I've never come across it either, to me barbs were something that hasn't been found since the '70s, but in that documentary a guy who apparently isn't into drugs himself finds a bag that he suspects to be "tootin' barbs shit". I don't know if perhaps it's a corrupted slang term, and that it actually refers to heroin, all I can go on is what appeared to be shown in that film.
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Yeah, that's a plausible explanation. Either that or it's survived from the days when barbs were popular on the street, although I've never heard of the practice of smoking them ever being widespread.

Mystery.
 
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Haven't tried diclazepam myself. Etizolam isn't really all that much like diaz, I can tell you that much.

I just ordered 100 etizolam. Fuck knows why, but I did...
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Cheers yeah I have tried etiz too and found it 'does the job' when I'm on stims but that's about it

So I've ordered 40 diclazepam, can somebody who's tried it shed the light ?
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Sorry to say, but i think you'll find the doctors far less than helpfull. You will be very lucky to find one that would help you with this. You will be exhibiting 'drug seeking' behaviour unless you go in with a very clever angle. You could taper off them in a month. It wont be nice at the end, but it shouldnt be that bad either as you havent been on them that long. Maybe you could ask the doctors about seizures and stuff, and say that you are worried about that, that way you are not directly or actively drug seeking..........
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Just go in full with WD's. 8o
 
i dunno about using alcohol as a replacement. I think it has a simillar mode of action on the brain as benzos do. But as i dont really have any affinity for alcohol i cant really answer that from my own experience. The substances are possibly interchangable, but dont take my word for it, as its not a benzo w/d method ive ever tried. I suppose if you were totally desperate and couldnt get anything else and it was a choice between alcohol or abrupt cold turkey benzo cessation then alcohol would be better than nothing but i dont think its a reccomended way of coming off benzos by any means at all.
 
Yeah thing is when i drank alcohol in wd's in order to knock myself out i fell asleep for 2 hours and felt even worse. Atm i just cant drink because if i do i get insomnia. I had 2 and a half weeks with no drink untill earlier this week i had 4 pints. And had a night of rubbish sleep again

After christmas i had a week of insomnia thanks to alcohol, so its not a great idea tbh.
 
meerkatmonster said:
Cheers yeah I have tried etiz too and found it 'does the job' when I'm on stims but that's about it

So I've ordered 40 diclazepam, can somebody who's tried it shed the light ?
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With Diclazepam, shit it's kinda hard to describe. I tried some 1mg pills from a certain vendor and they were waxy and green and 10mg did fuck all to me, though that was already with a mild tolerance to etiz. However I got a sample of 5x2mg pills from another place which were purple in colour and they were quite nice. I haven't re-ordered but I think I liked the 2mg ones more than etiz in a way because they just gave me a sense of well-being and cosiness and whatever the opposite of time dilation is. Did the entire ICC raid (shut up ) and it took about two hours cos everyone was fucking English, French, and Russian, and I was just chilling like 'whatever' and trying to chat to the French lot instead of getting wound up and wanting to get on with it. Slept well, never passed out, didn't seem as easy to overdo.

YMMV, as they say.

Also got my Etiz today. 10mg and I'm at uni finishing work, I'm feeling a lot better already after two days of slowly rationing my booze, spent yesterday sick as fuck, and now I'm good to go to get my last essay done. They might actually even be having a bit of an effect as I'm sat here trying to make the cover sheet for my essay and I cannot remember what subject it's on for the life of me 8(

Going to be careful with these. And for what its worth the alcohol use did help, but is definitely definitely not something I'd recommend for more than a day or so in lieu of actual benzos to taper. It helped and I got my work done but oh my GOD the shits I had. Ahem.

edit: When I was going through withdrawals the first time and p. convinced I was going to die (these weren't as bad), I was reading that apparently ibuprofen can be detrimental to use for the joint pain and headaches. Any idea why? I ended up just drinking chamomile tea and crying a lot.
 
I remember crying over the most ridiculous shit like under cover US bosses when i was with out of vals haha, i thought i was changing into a women. 8o
 
i dont know if ive been given a duff batch of etiz or ifts the kratom, but my latest mix doesnt seem to have any kick or bite to it. It may well just be kratom and its adrenagerc properties but its too much for etiz to over ride. I am not feeling any benzo w/d type things so there must be some etiz in it. I just have some doubts about it. I wish the main UK supplier would sort their etiz powder stocks out, that way i could at least have 2 sources for comparison purposes. The vendor i got my etiz from has never let me down, maybe it is just that kratom is too much for it. I find this very strange seeing that etiz can counteract even things like MDPV but it does fuck all for kratom induced insomnia.
 
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lame i got no sleep and i got a job interview at 10 am. Fk sake i couldn't sleep properly yesterday either. Meh : (

Im not overly anxious about this interview either, just wierd i havnt had weed for the last 2 days mind i get so used to falling asleep on heavy indica's. My only cut to valium last week was .5mg so im on 2mg now. Should be off it at the end of month hopefully. ><
 
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