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snolly said:
Knock transcends time.
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haha yes I'm going to start telling people this now irl.

but yeah am time-transcendent atm, can't say I'm chuffed about it.

funny how people always want to have a fixed label for people's sexuality. guilty of it myself but it's clearly not correct, same goes for relationship status, intelligence, drug addiction, everything else I suppose.
 
We are poly sexual, apparently, according to one of my tutors.

I think he means we'll fuck anything if we love him/her/it enough.
 
pills rattling in a jar or box couldnt be any more obvious, i guess RM dont know if they are delivering vitamin pills, any legal pills, grey area/uncontrolled pills, or plain downright illegal pills. Your right about the powders some of them are extremely cleverly delievered, the jiffy bags just make it blatant, but im sure they know about the legal high market so theres not a lot they can do.

I remember when meph was legal, some older generation posties didnt like that business atall i could tell that when i had to go to the depot to collect my meph, i think some of them were getting pissed off about that. I think the tabloids had been working their magic on some of them. :\
 
knock said:
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funny how people always want to have a fixed label for people's sexuality. guilty of it myself but it's clearly not correct, same goes for relationship status, intelligence, drug addiction, everything else I suppose.
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Good morning ! lol. Thats so true, never thought of that before, all these things are subject to change. Sometimes i can be extremeley stupid, sometimes i can be really quite canny. Ihave been single and i have been in relatiuonships, just like everyone else. I dont think ive ever been actually gay, though there is some kind of sliding scale of these things.
 
I swear I have 'gay' days (or particularly bi days) where I wake up and I find men more attractive than women. It might last for a day or two, then my tastes switch back to women for the majority of the time. Sexuality is a curious beast. I do have a bit of a thing for guys who look like girls. Best of both, maybe? Like Hovis...
 
Haha aye, I found that myself (re: knocks quoting me). It killed me (literally irl I am a ghost) telling my parents I was 'gay' at the age of 16, but now I don't see it as anything worth telling. It's no one's business unless I have a partner although I don't mind answering questions about it from people who aren't being offensive or weird, like MDB's question was cool. My college tutor asking everyone if 'she fucks girls or boys' when I wasn't there was awful. One of my parents' neighbour's kids has turned out to be A Gay and while her dad was fine with it, her mum was all torn up because she was worried what people would think. My Mum's response - and I love my Mum for this - was 'well we don't go round telling people that snolly's sister is heterosexual because it's none of their business, but if they ask 'oh, does snolly have a boyfriend?' we tell them she's gay'. And I have no problem with that. My Mum then went on to tell neighbour lady that 'there must be something in the water round here' =D

edit: My net is so slow I can't even quote people without being behind the times, but Albion's post pretty much sums me up. I will have days where I am really sexually into men (usually when I am mooncupping it) but 90% of the time I like girls. I will only say 'I'm gay' when people directly ask cos it's less effort than explaining exactly who what and why I fuck unless I get caught up in an actual discussion about it.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Good morning ! lol. Thats so true, never thought of that before, all these things are subject to change. Sometimes i can be extremeley stupid, sometimes i can be really quite canny. Ihave been single and i have been in relatiuonships, just like everyone else. I dont think ive ever been actually gay, though there is some kind of sliding scale of these things.
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not calling you stupid! it's a human need (or is it a want) that's extremely difficult to avoid. I remember there was a period I was still seeing my ex and shagging now and again, my cousin was desparate to know if we were boyfriend and girlfriend, I really couldn't say, for the first time in my life I became aware of this need people have for labelling and I actually had to say "stop trying to label us". I'm only just thinking about how this applies to "addiction" right now because of the discussion we've been having here, but I think it's applicable.



snolly that's fucking hilarious.
 
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knock said:
not calling you stupid! it's a human need that's extremely difficult to avoid. I remember there was a perild I was still seeing my ex and shagging now and again, my cousin was desparate to know if we were boyfriend and girlfriend, I really couldn't say, for the first time in my life I became aware of this need people have for labelling and I actually had to say "stop trying to label us". I'm only just thinking about how this applies to "addiction" right now because of the discussion we've been having here, but I think it's applicable.
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lol, i know, i was just using myself as an example, thats often the way i test ideas out, i see if they work if i apply them to myself or not. Even if i may seem a bit strange to some i think im generally as human as anyone else, so anything about human nature can be tested out and applied to myslef to see 'if it works' if that makes any sense.
 
Thing is, we are all subject to so much conditioning from day one, how much free choice exists at all? I certainly have a theory we are all bi-sexual (maybe even poly sexual Albion) but we just don't know it or have had it hammered out of us by norms and conditioning. I might add my gf completely disagrees with me and she reckons she is as straight as straight can be. Which is interesting to me because it is her who goes on about conditioning all the time.
 
i have definitely had any tendency for homosexual leanings hammered out of me. literally. I don't think I would be "gay" otherwise but I might be open to cock, as things are I'm really not open to cock.
 
if some are off the charts then it's not a scale; also a scale doesn't take into account the axis of time.

i'm being very pedantic but I'm trying hard to get across the point that it's not as simple as where someone lies on a one-dimensional sliding scale.
 
knock said:
i have definitely had any tendency for homosexual leanings hammered out of me. literally. I don't think I would be "gay" otherwise but I might be open to cock, as things are I'm really not open to cock.
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had you gone to a psoh boarding school things might have been different, i guess the same applies to all of us. I dont know how true it is, exspecially in this day and age, but all those stories about how any 'pretty boy' / slightly effemiunate men would have a very HARD time of things in prison, thank fuck i was never sent to prison in my early 20s or something. Jesus, it would have been terrifying.
 
It's a mass come-out in EADD tonight!

=D

'Coming out' is also an act brought about by conditioning and it's a horrible thing that people feel they need to do.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
some may be off the fucking charts and would shag anything either with or without a pulse.
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That'll be me. :|

Not quite (fuck it, who knows) but at least part of my theory comes from early MDMA days when inhibitions were seriously removed and I'd have fucked the sofa/wall/anything that moved or didn't move if I thought I could get away with it.

I'm normal now doctor, honest.
 
Albion said:
It's a mass come-out in EADD tonight!

=D

'Coming out' is also an act brought about by conditioning and it's a horrible thing that people feel they need to do.
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Very much so! I spent most of my early teens in and out of therapy because I was 'depressed' but in reality I was just into a girl and scared to tell anyone and I wasn't going to tell anyone that in a session that involved my parents because it was A Big Thing. And when I finally told them, was the day after I slept with my girlfriend for the first time. I told my Mum after she asked what was up, and my Dad walked past and asked what was going on and Mum goes 'Oh Snolly is gay now' and Dad goes 'oh, ok!', waved at me, and walked off. I wish it wasn't such a thing because it is really hard to 'come out' as a kid. Even now I've not told my Dad's side of the family, I just assume they know. I was talking to my cousin one night when we were drunk and she was lamenting how shit her boyfriend was and I told her about my ex and that got turned into 'Snolly came out to *cousin* the other night' when I hadn't even considered that at the time. Plus side, got to bang my cousin's mate =D
 
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